Click Here
Home » Planet-F1 Chat » Planet-F1 Chat » Official 2010 Testing Thread () 15 Vote(s)
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2386523] Tue, 09 February 2010 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Laura23
Messages: 2571
Registered: November 2009
Location: Aberdeen
F1 Champ
crespo wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 15:47

Laura23 wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 11:44

crespo wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 15:37

Laura23 wrote on Tue, 09 February 2010 11:16

Interesting fact that the Merc boys are the only drivers who will have tested against evry other driver competing in the test at some point.

I don't mean to sound rude, but the only "competing" involved in the testing is made up in media and forums. I'd love to see someone make it sound like Mercedes has an advantage because of this.

I wasn't suggesting they would have an advatage. How could they? Everyone is doing 2 days each.

I just thought it was an interesting anomaly from the rest of the other teams. You can compare both Nico and Michael to every other driver. (and I know fuel loads will be a factor so it can't be totally representative.)

I know you weren't, I just wouldn't be surprised if someone said that's some sort of advantage for them Razz

It is interesting, though. You would think two straight days of testing would be more useful for the driver than on-off-on.

Cool Beans Smile


Michael Schumacher Sad Frown
Mark Webber Smile
Lewis Hamilton Smile
Seb Buemi Sad
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2386636] Tue, 09 February 2010 18:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no-lim
Messages: 2554
Registered: October 2004
Location: In a land far, far away
F1 Champ
Triana wrote on Mon, 08 February 2010 10:37

no-lim wrote on Sat, 06 February 2010 02:51


If anything, Ferrari has shown in the last season is that their testing pace should not be believed. Last year, it looked like they would be the solid runner ups behind BrawnGP. Instead, they were a mediocre midfielder, at best. I would hope they learned their lesson from 2009, but with a team that blames one driver for what the engineering staff failed to do, one can never be so sure...
That said, it looks good to see Ferrari leading the pack the three days so far.
Cool


http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/6515/original/jesus-facepalm-facepalm-jesus-epic-demotivational-poster-1218659828.jpg

Oh My God... Laughing Laughing Laughing Do have you a link???

So, according to your "conspiray theory" why didn't Ferrari blame Massa too?

Have you ever thought that maybe Kimi underperformed compared to Massa???? (No offence to Kimi fans, just my opinion)

You could actually bother at reading the countless statements on which Ferrari hints that Raikkonen didn't tell them what to do with their car, but now with Alonso they will be able to develop a race contender...
If that is not blaming the driver, then enlighten us at what were they trying to do there
Cool
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2386933] Wed, 10 February 2010 00:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MarioP
Messages: 416
Registered: March 2009
Location: Virginia, USA
F1 Rookie
So tomorrow will be the first time a new team (Virgin Racing) is on the track with the others.

What kind of comparative times can we really expect to see from them by the end of the week? As usual, fuel loads will be unknown for all the cars but let's consider the possibilities..

Fastest car of all - Will they pull a 'Brawn' and be the fastest car and instantly issue in a new era of the CFD car? Umm.. no.

+0 to +2 seconds off the pace - Unlikely on the first day but not outside the realm of possibility by the end of the week. If they could do this, I think that would be an impressive achievement.

+2 to +4 - I think this is a realistic target and they would be satisfied to be in this range.

+4 to +6 - Disappointing but not hopeless results.

+6 and above - Ouch.



Felipe Massa - 2010 WDC - Predicted 2/22/10
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387036] Wed, 10 February 2010 06:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sharans92
Messages: 602
Registered: December 2009
Location: New York
F1 Winner
So now that we've seen pictures of the Red Bull, does anyone know exactly what time testing starts?
I think it's 9AM local time, is that correct?
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387050] Wed, 10 February 2010 07:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
petef1
Messages: 1370
Registered: March 2005
Location: UK
F1 Champ
Sharans92 wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 06:54

So now that we've seen pictures of the Red Bull, does anyone know exactly what time testing starts?
I think it's 9AM local time, is that correct?


Yes that's correct;

09:00 CET / 08:00 GMT / 03:00 EST


Purple sector
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387062] Wed, 10 February 2010 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gerhardsa
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2010
F3 Champ
MarioP wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 00:13

So tomorrow will be the first time a new team (Virgin Racing) is on the track with the others.

What kind of comparative times can we really expect to see from them by the end of the week? As usual, fuel loads will be unknown for all the cars but let's consider the possibilities..

Fastest car of all - Will they pull a 'Brawn' and be the fastest car and instantly issue in a new era of the CFD car? Umm.. no.

+0 to +2 seconds off the pace - Unlikely on the first day but not outside the realm of possibility by the end of the week. If they could do this, I think that would be an impressive achievement.

+2 to +4 - I think this is a realistic target and they would be satisfied to be in this range.

+4 to +6 - Disappointing but not hopeless results.

+6 and above - Ouch.


Yeah, i dont think they would be more than 3-4 seconds of the pace, if any. The car really looks good though. i wont expect too much from them yet, but dont think they'll be the slowest...funny feeling.
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387070] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ASCARI-GTV
Messages: 34
Registered: January 2010
Location: Adelaide
F3 Champ
8:36am The covers come off the RB6!

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/red_bull_rb6-3.jpg

Grin Grin Grin

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/red_bull_rb6-4.jpg

Surprised Surprised Surprised


///ASCARI///
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387075] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gerhardsa
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2010
F3 Champ
mostly the same as last years car i think
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387079] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mansun1
Messages: 20
Registered: March 2009
Location: Nottingham
F3 Champ
According to Wikipedia Jerez stats:


Length 4.428 km (2.751 mi)
Turns 13
Lap record 1:23.135 ( Heinz-Harald Frentzen, Williams, 1997)

Anyone know any different?
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387082] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gerhardsa
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2010
F3 Champ
Alonso out 1st, although it should only be an installation lap i guess
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387083] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gerhardsa
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2010
F3 Champ
mansun1 wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:20

According to Wikipedia Jerez stats:


Length 4.428 km (2.751 mi)
Turns 13
Lap record 1:23.135 ( Heinz-Harald Frentzen, Williams, 1997)

Anyone know any different?

they probably have something like that on the Jerez tracks official web aswell, might be more accurate if the Wiki ones are old
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387085] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gerhardsa
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2010
F3 Champ
Anyone know if the Autosport website's Live timing will be active for the 1st day of this test.
i see they have it there, but the link to the live feed is not on yet....session has been on for 20 odd minutes now and no feed from them, only that dutch site that has some updates(no times as of yet though)
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387090] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gerhardsa
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2010
F3 Champ
mansun1 wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:20

According to Wikipedia Jerez stats:


Length 4.428 km (2.751 mi)
Turns 13
Lap record 1:23.135 ( Heinz-Harald Frentzen, Williams, 1997)

Anyone know any different?


as i recall, they changed the track quite a bit since then.
here is the 1st times so NO, those are not correct on WIKI

Quote:

K. Kobayashi Kobayashi Sauber Sauber C29 C29 1:23.789 1:23.789 5 5 pit pit
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387091] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
flexabn
Messages: 9
Registered: July 2007
Location: South Africa
F3 Champ
It doesn't seem to have started - http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/174

[Updated on: Wed, 10 February 2010 08:37]

Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387092] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sharans92
Messages: 602
Registered: December 2009
Location: New York
F1 Winner
Here we go!!
Buemi: 1:22.162
Koba:1:23.789
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387093] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mansun1
Messages: 20
Registered: March 2009
Location: Nottingham
F3 Champ
gerhardsa wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:22

mansun1 wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:20

According to Wikipedia Jerez stats:


Length 4.428 km (2.751 mi)
Turns 13
Lap record 1:23.135 ( Heinz-Harald Frentzen, Williams, 1997)

Anyone know any different?

they probably have something like that on the Jerez tracks official web aswell, might be more accurate if the Wiki ones are old


Aparently Schumi has record of 1'15''650 testing in 2004 - http://www.circuitodejerez.com/en/records.cfm

Track length 4.423,101 m.
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387094] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fabzx
Messages: 36
Registered: September 2009
Location: nz
F3 Champ
http://www.f1-direct.com/include/livegp/we/temp/essais.php


Alonso
Kubica
Massa
Webber
Bianchi
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387096] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gerhardsa
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2010
F3 Champ
more coming in now..


    1.S.Buemi Toro Rosso STR5 1:22.164

    2.K.Kobayashi Sauber C29 1:23.789 +1.625


[Updated on: Wed, 10 February 2010 08:34]

Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387097] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Miss_Sophie
Messages: 70
Registered: January 2010
Location: UK
F3 Champ

what is this!

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/butt_mcla_jere_20100210-2.jpg

Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387101] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gerhardsa
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2010
F3 Champ
Miss_Sophie wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:35

what is this!

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/butt_mcla_jere_20100210-2.jpg



WTF???
Seems like some sort of sensor, althought im not sure...anyone?
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387102] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mansun1
Messages: 20
Registered: March 2009
Location: Nottingham
F3 Champ
is it some sort of camera/filming equipment??
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387103] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Miss_Sophie
Messages: 70
Registered: January 2010
Location: UK
F3 Champ

Anyone know what it would be measuring?
edit... im sure its a sensor.... but what for? They getting button to do the weather readings now as well? Kinda reminds me of 007 films, maybe he is going to shoot down the helis over the circuit? Grin Grin Grin Laughing

[Updated on: Wed, 10 February 2010 08:42]

Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387105] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fabzx
Messages: 36
Registered: September 2009
Location: nz
F3 Champ
I think it is to monitor tyre degredation


Alonso
Kubica
Massa
Webber
Bianchi
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387107] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
miso-soup!
Messages: 5887
Registered: May 2006
Location: Japan
F1 Champ


http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gallery/pictures/2010/f1/test-jerez-10fev/022wri.jpg

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gallery/pictures/2010/f1/test-jerez-10fev/020wri.jpg

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gallery/pictures/2010/f1/test-jerez-10fev/023wri.jpg

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gallery/pictures/2010/f1/test-jerez-10fev/024wri.jpg



٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶ ☆.。.:*・゜`★
`°º¤ø,¸ Thank you BRIDGESTONE! ¤ø,1997-2010 ø¤º The Only, F1 Tyre ¸,ø¤°'º´
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387108] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
miso-soup!
Messages: 5887
Registered: May 2006
Location: Japan
F1 Champ

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gallery/pictures/2010/f1/test-jerez-10fev/029wri.jpg

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gallery/pictures/2010/f1/test-jerez-10fev/042wri.jpg

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gallery/pictures/2010/f1/test-jerez-10fev/043wri.jpg

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gallery/pictures/2010/f1/test-jerez-10fev/037wri.jpg



٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶ ☆.。.:*・゜`★
`°º¤ø,¸ Thank you BRIDGESTONE! ¤ø,1997-2010 ø¤º The Only, F1 Tyre ¸,ø¤°'º´
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387110] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gerhardsa
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2010
F3 Champ
fabzx wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:40

I think it is to monitor tyre degredation


True...thats apparently what it is. to monitor the tyre wear
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387112] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bancieri
Messages: 252
Registered: March 2009
Location: Brighton
F1 Rookie

Are there any live updates anywhere?


If in doubt, Flat Out!!!! Colin McRae rip

Button or Hamilton WDC 2010
Predicted 01/01/2010
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387113] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
miso-soup!
Messages: 5887
Registered: May 2006
Location: Japan
F1 Champ
gerhardsa wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 17:46

fabzx wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:40

I think it is to monitor tyre degredation


True...thats apparently what it is. to monitor the tyre wear


most likely for air flow/pressure. those are pitot.

[Updated on: Wed, 10 February 2010 08:50]



٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶ ☆.。.:*・゜`★
`°º¤ø,¸ Thank you BRIDGESTONE! ¤ø,1997-2010 ø¤º The Only, F1 Tyre ¸,ø¤°'º´
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387114] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gerhardsa
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2010
F3 Champ
Bancieri wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:47

Are there any live updates anywhere?


http://www.f1-direct.com/include/livegp/we/temp/essais.php

Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387115] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dagz
Messages: 1562
Registered: November 2004
Location: Lincs, UK
F1 Champ

Bancieri wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:47

Are there any live updates anywhere?


live updates here

http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/174


Racing is in the blood.
Join http://www.f1legends.co.uk
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387116] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fabzx
Messages: 36
Registered: September 2009
Location: nz
F3 Champ
http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/174

autosport live updates working now


Alonso
Kubica
Massa
Webber
Bianchi
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387117] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sharans92
Messages: 602
Registered: December 2009
Location: New York
F1 Winner
1. N. Rosberg Mercedes GP W01 1:20.927 11 pit
2. S. Buemi Toro Rosso STR5 1:21.031 +0,104 8
3. N. Hülkenberg Williams FW32 1:22.243 +1,316 17 pit
4. F. Alonso Ferrari F10 1:22.895 +1,968 11 pit
5. K. Kobayashi Sauber C29 1:23.787 +2,860 7 pit
6. J. Button McLaren MP4-25 1:24.947 +4,020 5 pit
7. V. Liuzzi Force India VJM-03 1:24.968 +4,041 6 pit
8. V. Petrov Renault R30 1:25.440 +4,513 9 pit
9. M. Webber Red Bull Racing RB6 1:26.502 +5,575 4 pit
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387118] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gerhardsa
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2010
F3 Champ
miso-soup! wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:48

gerhardsa wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 17:46

fabzx wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:40

I think it is to monitor tyre degredation


True...thats apparently what it is. to monitor the tyre wear


most likely for air flow/pressure. those are pitot.



F1 Today.nl says that Macca will be running sensors for the measurement of tyre degredation in their live feed
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387119] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bancieri
Messages: 252
Registered: March 2009
Location: Brighton
F1 Rookie

gerhardsa wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:49

Bancieri wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:47

Are there any live updates anywhere?


http://www.f1-direct.com/include/livegp/we/temp/essais.php




TA Thumbs Up


If in doubt, Flat Out!!!! Colin McRae rip

Button or Hamilton WDC 2010
Predicted 01/01/2010
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387120] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Miss_Sophie
Messages: 70
Registered: January 2010
Location: UK
F3 Champ

miso-soup! wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:48

gerhardsa wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 17:46

fabzx wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 08:40

I think it is to monitor tyre degredation


True...thats apparently what it is. to monitor the tyre wear


most likely for air flow/pressure. those are pitot.


Thanks, it looks like some serious equipment! Shocked Is this something teams usually use?
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387121] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dxworld
Messages: 436
Registered: April 2005
Location: USA, Miami
F1 Rookie
miso-soup! wrote on Wed, 10 February 2010 03:43



http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gallery/pictures/2010/f1/test-jerez-10fev/022wri.jpg

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gallery/pictures/2010/f1/test-jerez-10fev/020wri.jpg

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gallery/pictures/2010/f1/test-jerez-10fev/023wri.jpg

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gallery/pictures/2010/f1/test-jerez-10fev/024wri.jpg



That is suck a frikin gorgeous car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The mirrored look is awesome!!!!!
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387122] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gerhardsa
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2010
F3 Champ
Quote:

McLaren to test sensors 09:18 - - McLaren to test many sensors on the car. The sensors are placed behind the front tires, the wear of the tires to measure.

[Updated on: Wed, 10 February 2010 08:53]

Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387124] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gerhardsa
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2010
F3 Champ
it aint bad, i think the 2007 Macca was better.
this year, i feel no car comes close to the MB, and ferrari.
they have awesome lines...i like!
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387125] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sharans92
Messages: 602
Registered: December 2009
Location: New York
F1 Winner
Some diffusers:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/liuz_forc_jere_20100210-1.jpg
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/koba_bmws_jere_20100210-2.jpg
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/petr_rena_jere_20100210-2.jpg
Re: Official 2010 Testing Thread [message #2387126] Wed, 10 February 2010 08:57 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
gerhardsa
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2010
F3 Champ
Rosberg seems to be quick out of the blocks this morning...feeling a bit of pressure maybe from the "old man", so giving it HORNS today maybe Laughing Laughing
Previous Topic:A sincere thanks to Max Mosely
Next Topic:Massa : Alonso needs to work harder and shuchmacher is better!
Goto Forum:
  


Current Time: Fri Jul 30 23:20:32 BST 2010
.:: Contact :: Home ::.