planetf1.com

It is currently Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:07 am

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:56 pm
Posts: 379
all the eyes will be on alonso/vettel, button/hamilton/rosberg/kimi maybe for the wdc. but what about sergio? me thinks if mclaren produce a good car sergio at first will be consistent in points finishes at the start of the season. mid-season he will win his first race and from there he will be fighting for the wdc. i know he was getting into alot of accidents towards the end of the season but they can be ironed out. also his pace was still good.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:57 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:14 pm
Posts: 2460
diablof1 wrote:
all the eyes will be on alonso/vettel, button/hamilton/rosberg/kimi maybe for the wdc. but what about sergio? me thinks if mclaren produce a good car sergio at first will be consistent in points finishes at the start of the season. mid-season he will win his first race and from there he will be fighting for the wdc. i know he was getting into alot of accidents towards the end of the season but they can be ironed out. also his pace was still good.


I think it's pretty obviously down to Alonso, Button, Vettel for the WDC. I don't believe Perez and Button are going to be that close in performance.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:09 am
Posts: 2129
Location: Perth, Australia
It's rare for a driver to jump into a front-running car and be fighting for the title straight away - especially when they've got as little success and experience as Sergio. Before looking at titles, he's got to focus on beating Button. Jenson's no slouch and held his own against Lewis. All this talk and he might not show much, let's not forget.

Heikki looked pretty fast in 2007.

_________________
Image
I also have one of these.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:51 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:20 am
Posts: 372
I'm going to assume he will get more podiums than he did this year in 2013... but not many.

I just think he is overrated, consistent though. Should be a great #2 to Button.

You never know though, he may surprise.

_________________
[[[[Mark Webber for the WIN in 2013]]]
[[[[Mark Webber for the WEC in 2014 and beyond ;)]]]


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:56 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:21 pm
Posts: 1712
Button has more of a chance next year because Perez will play number 2, unless by some miracle his prodgical pace shows up and he humiliates Jenson in the first few races. Depending on car performance the championship will be between Vettel, Webber, Alonso, Kimi and Jenson. I put Webber in there because they're again changing the rules on exhaust placement, we saw when Red Bull didn't have that earlier in the season Webber got the upper hand.

_________________
Official Kamui Kobayashi Fanboy


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:51 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:20 pm
Posts: 16
I think he'll have the measure of Button on outright speed, though Button should finish ahead in the championship given he's now the most experienced driver in F1.
I'd like to see Perez become Mexico's first ever F1 champion, and I think he can challenge for the title in 2013 with a fast Mclaren.

_________________
Favourite Teams:
Sahara Force India
Mercedes GP

Favourite Drivers
Nico Hulkenberg
Adrian Sutil
Sergio Perez
Daniel Ricciardo


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:01 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:09 pm
Posts: 230
If McLaren produce a great car I can see Perez fighting for wins but over the course of the season I expect Button to beat him.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:37 pm
Posts: 854
Would like to see him giving Button a though time

_________________
"Everything you can imagine is real." Pablo Picasso


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:20 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:07 pm
Posts: 5155
I predict he will struggle to get half of Button's points.

_________________
Räikkönen - Vettel - Rosberg - Bottas


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:45 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:08 pm
Posts: 13
As a Sauber fan, it's been quite frustrating watching Sergio this year. He drove brilliantly at Monza, and could have snatched an unlikely win at Sepang, but overall he seemed too inconsistent. That might be down to the team itself, which far too often seems to rely on doing some different with its strategy. When it works it's brilliant, but too often it seemed to leave the drivers with too much to do to make it work, which meant the car would seemingly throw it in the wall.

Certainly he has potential, but I suspect he's more likely to go the way of Heikki and be solid, but never really good enough in a fast car to worry the big boys race after race.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 6:41 pm
Posts: 6587
I wouldn't bet against him.

_________________
Disclaimer: The above post maybe tongue in cheek.

"I thought I'd get your theories, mock them, then embrace my own. The usual."


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:22 pm
Posts: 3153
I used to think he had what it takes.






Right up until Mclaren signed him

_________________
I have nothing to offer but blood, oil, gears, and sweat.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:29 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:56 pm
Posts: 212
He has to be a dark horse for the title simply because McLaren are favourites to have the best car. Doesn't mean he's likely to win it though, but it's certainly a possibility.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:56 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:07 am
Posts: 71
Toby. wrote:
It's rare for a driver to jump into a front-running car and be fighting for the title straight away - especially when they've got as little success and experience as Sergio. Before looking at titles, he's got to focus on beating Button. Jenson's no slouch and held his own against Lewis. All this talk and he might not show much, let's not forget.

Heikki looked pretty fast in 2007.


Expect Sergio to get into a few spins/crashes in the beginning of the season, then a few podiums here and there, then a settling-down period as McLaren lecture him to be more careful in the second half of the season.


Last edited by aryaputhra on Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:30 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:10 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:41 pm
Posts: 2676
Covalent wrote:
I predict he will struggle to get half of Button's points.


That is about the ratio I expect. I wonder what McLaren have set as their target for a good year from Sergio.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:25 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon May 09, 2011 4:41 pm
Posts: 468
Location: Royal Wootton Bassett
No, not even close. At best he might win a couple of races but that's pushing it.

_________________
Vettel / Raikkonen / Button


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:55 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:39 pm
Posts: 1152
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
He will be up there when driving one of the probable better cars. Less hazzle, crashes when driving up front.

_________________
..

Minds are like parachutes, they work best when they are open


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:05 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:47 am
Posts: 215
I hope that Perez proves quick enough not to threaten McLaren's strategy for replacing Vodafone when the current deal expires at the end of next season...

_________________
Sebastien Vettel, the youngest driver ever to have the fastest car in F1 for four consecutive years


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:13 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:53 am
Posts: 2575
Location: Somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert
Fat Albert wrote:
I hope that Perez proves quick enough not to threaten McLaren's strategy for replacing Vodafone when the current deal expires at the end of next season...

:lol:

_________________
I went skating on your name,
And by tracing it twice,
I fell through the ice,
of Alice


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:51 am
Posts: 2494
IMO Perez is overrated driver. He is too hot headed, inconsistent and most of all, dependable of perfect tire strategy.

_________________
The end is near


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:03 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:59 pm
Posts: 122
Location: Milton Keynes
To be honest we can all discuss and debate how well we think he will do. But of course we never know what is going to happen until Australia next year. In my opinion, I think he has a good chance...as long as Mclaren provide a fast enough car, but even if they do, I'd expect Jenson to beat Sergio at the end of the year.

_________________
Drivers I like:
Raikkonen
Grosjean
Perez
Vettel

Teams I like:
Lotus
Merc
RBR
Marussia


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:10 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:16 am
Posts: 1006
Its hard to say anything before having a look at the competitiveness of the cars. Perez will be driving a McLaren, so I don't think you can call him a dark horse. McLaren was as fast as Red Bull in 2012 and there's no reason why they can't be again in 2013. I expect Button to beat Perez though. But if Red Bull, McLaren and Ferrari turn out to be very closely matched then I wouldn't expect either McLaren driver to keep up with Vettel and Alonso for very long, owing to their woes in qualifying. Now that Hamilton is gone, if McLaren wants to win a title they must produce a rocket ship, simple as that.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:12 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun May 27, 2012 4:08 am
Posts: 451
Covalent wrote:
I predict he will struggle to get half of Button's points.


He got half of Button points last season... in a Sauber!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:18 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:16 am
Posts: 1006
Deep_blue wrote:
Covalent wrote:
I predict he will struggle to get half of Button's points.


He got half of Button points last season... in a Sauber!


Yeah. Although I expect Button to come out on top I don't expect him to do so well that Perez can't even get half his points. Button himself isn't consistent enough to pull out a gap like that. I'd expect Perez to score about 80% of Button's points.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:35 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:03 pm
Posts: 51
Well, a lot of people expected a few crashes and spins in his first races in his first year, and in Australia he made it to the points, DSQ later, but it was due to the car.

I have to admit that now on, he will be fighting with the most talented drivers, so it will be a challenge, and you can expect a contact with someone else, but not as common as RoGro or Maldonado.

So i expect he can be up there, i think his "weakness" will be the qualy session, but he has a very good race pace.

He haves what it takes, and will be up there starting in Australia.

Anyway, if he does well, expect a lot of people from here claiming that his performance is coming from a car that Hamilton developed...

_________________
Alonso
Perez
Hamilton


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:44 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:15 pm
Posts: 93
Deep_blue wrote:
Covalent wrote:
I predict he will struggle to get half of Button's points.


He got half of Button points last season... in a Sauber!


More like one third of Button's points. In any case i don't think it works that way.

_________________
In response to budget cuts, the light at the end of the tunnel is being switched-off today.
--Aron Vigushin


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:07 pm
Posts: 5155
Deep_blue wrote:
Covalent wrote:
I predict he will struggle to get half of Button's points.


He got half of Button points last season... in a Sauber!

1) No he didn't
2) New car, new team, very little testing means he'll struggle to extract the most of the car compared to last season when he already had a full year behind in the team.

So while I think he'll get closer to Button, he'll still only get about half of the points. Of course I could be very, very wrong but that's my feeling right now.

_________________
Räikkönen - Vettel - Rosberg - Bottas


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:35 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2003 10:09 pm
Posts: 3580
Toby. wrote:
It's rare for a driver to jump into a front-running car and be fighting for the title straight away - especially when they've got as little success and experience as Sergio. Before looking at titles, he's got to focus on beating Button. Jenson's no slouch and held his own against Lewis. All this talk and he might not show much, let's not forget.

Heikki looked pretty fast in 2007.


I don't think its rare at all. All won a race almost immediately as soon as they got a good car

2007 - Hamilton
2009 - Vettel
2003 - Alonso

Good drivers are up to speed immediately. If Perez is a good driver he will be on Buttons pace or slightly slower straight away.

_________________
http://www.racefan.co.uk


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:03 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:37 pm
Posts: 854
Depends on the team,, who they back and how much

_________________
"Everything you can imagine is real." Pablo Picasso


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:30 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:21 am
Posts: 366
He's more like the great unknown. After 4 races we will know if he's hit or miss.

Certainly he has a lot of work to do by himself, but also by his new team. What's helping is there are almost no expectations, as was the case with Hamilton in 2007. Teammate is leader of the team (then Alonso, now Button), pressure of driving for such team exists, but there are no expectations. He has to use it and deliver ASAP, otherwise it will be uphill struggle.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: angrypirate, Fiki, joshb, mikeyg123, mph, Pedrosa_4_Ever, Pest44, Sappher, shoot999 and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
[ Time : 0.152s | 15 Queries | GZIP : Off ]