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Surprise no thread on this, Vettel just beated Ricciardo in the first battle of F1 drivers.


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http://www.raceofchampions.com/live-results-2015/


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Does anyone have links to the day 1 races?


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Andy Priaulx single handedly won the team event for England.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:28 am 
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pokerman wrote:
Andy Priaulx single headedly won the team event for England.

yeah, what a performance! he destroyed every single opponent, including Button Vettel and Hulkenberg


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good job Vettel! get after um! :]

It's all just for fun. But yeah, Priaulx was a monster out there.


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Vettel just beated Ricciardo in the first battle of F1 drivers.

You imagine if it had been the other way around that there would have been a fanfare.

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Looking forward to Mercedes Stars and Cars on the 12th Dec. Its going to follow a similar format to ROC plus some one-off guest runs. Wolff v Lauda, Rosberg v Hamilton and Coultard v Hakkinnen for example.

Coultard and Mika will be racing in these 8O

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The good news is its all going to be streamed live.

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Wow, everyone is losing by thousandths and hundredths, while Suzie Wollf is losing by almost 3 seconds. I didn't know she was that useless.


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Vettel taking it too seriously. Not giving interviews while his next opponent Hulkenberg is going around laughing. Vettel putting a lot at stake. :lol:


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Wow, Vettel beat Ricciardo yesterday, and now absolutely THRASHED Hulkenberg. Herbert was tipping the Hulk to beat Vettel.

This thread seems to be turning into my personal monologue. I thought people would be very excited about ROC.


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IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:
Wow, everyone is losing by thousandths and hundredths, while Suzie Wollf is losing by almost 3 seconds. I didn't know she was that useless.

Did she race today?

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pokerman wrote:
IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:
Wow, everyone is losing by thousandths and hundredths, while Suzie Wollf is losing by almost 3 seconds. I didn't know she was that useless.

Did she race today?


She did. Lost to DC, it was her last professional appearance.


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IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:
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IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:
Wow, everyone is losing by thousandths and hundredths, while Suzie Wollf is losing by almost 3 seconds. I didn't know she was that useless.

Did she race today?


She did. Lost to DC, it was her last professional appearance.

She must have been one of the first to race, so she was seconds slower?

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pokerman wrote:
IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:
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IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:
Wow, everyone is losing by thousandths and hundredths, while Suzie Wollf is losing by almost 3 seconds. I didn't know she was that useless.

Did she race today?


She did. Lost to DC, it was her last professional appearance.

She must have been one of the first to race, so she was seconds slower?


What? :?

She was 3 seconds slower than DC in the same heat.


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IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:
pokerman wrote:
IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:
pokerman wrote:
IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:
Wow, everyone is losing by thousandths and hundredths, while Suzie Wollf is losing by almost 3 seconds. I didn't know she was that useless.

Did she race today?


She did. Lost to DC, it was her last professional appearance.

She must have been one of the first to race, so she was seconds slower?


What? :?

She was 3 seconds slower than DC in the same heat.

I was just confirming she was seconds slower, did they just do the one heat?

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Vettel won it, beating Kristensen in the final.


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http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/ ... -champions

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Impressive performance from Seb - it's too bad the other top drivers in F1 never show up, or we'd have another of evaluating them.

Or maybe it's for the best, since the forum would turn into a river of flame if the final had been Lewis vs. Seb instead :-P

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Impressive performance from Seb - it's too bad the other top drivers in F1 never show up, or we'd have another of evaluating them.

Or maybe it's for the best, since the forum would turn into a river of flame if the final had been Lewis vs. Seb instead :-P

Ricciardo and Button were also competing

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and Massa, Hulkenberg, Grosjean, Palmer. The sky report details how they all got on.

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Coulthard was the only one to beat Vettel in a heat.

http://www.raceofchampions.com/live-results-2015/
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Why didnt Alonso and Hamilton take part of it? No clue. As of last years participations too.

As far as I know Alonso participated only in the RoC 2001 Nations cup and they won it for Spain. After that, nothing... :?


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pokerman wrote:
Ricciardo and Button were also competing
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and Massa, Hulkenberg, Grosjean, Palmer.

I was talking about Alonso and Hamilton, but Ricciardo and Button are I suppose in the conversation for top drivers as well (although this time last year Button was not).

The selection process for the Race of Champions is really weird though. It's essentially an all-star game for motorsports, but despite the name some of the biggest champions in motorsport either rarely show up or never show up, and many of the drivers aren't champions at all. Additionally, different drivers visibly take it more or less seriously, so it's questionable how much weight should be attached to the result; more than Top Gear I suppose, but less than a real competitive outing between the same drivers would merit.

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Exediron wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Ricciardo and Button were also competing
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and Massa, Hulkenberg, Grosjean, Palmer.

I was talking about Alonso and Hamilton, but Ricciardo and Button are I suppose in the conversation for top drivers as well (although this time last year Button was not).

The selection process for the Race of Champions is really weird though. It's essentially an all-star game for motorsports, but despite the name some of the biggest champions in motorsport either rarely show up or never show up, and many of the drivers aren't champions at all. Additionally, different drivers visibly take it more or less seriously, so it's questionable how much weight should be attached to the result; more than Top Gear I suppose, but less than a real competitive outing between the same drivers would merit.


I don't think there is much of a selection process. They just except the best drivers or most interesting characters from a wide range of motorsports.

If Hamilton and Alonso wanted to do it I am sure they wouldn't be told no.


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mas wrote:
and Massa, Hulkenberg, Grosjean, Palmer. The sky report details how they all got on.

Yep I didn't mention them because of the definition of top F1 drivers :)

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Why didnt Alonso and Hamilton take part of it? No clue. As of last years participations too.

As far as I know Alonso participated only in the RoC 2001 Nations cup and they won it for Spain. After that, nothing... :?

Were was that held?

I find it disappointing that Hamilton always chooses not to compete especially as it's held in London were he must have loads of fans.

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Exediron wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Ricciardo and Button were also competing
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and Massa, Hulkenberg, Grosjean, Palmer.

I was talking about Alonso and Hamilton, but Ricciardo and Button are I suppose in the conversation for top drivers as well (although this time last year Button was not).

The selection process for the Race of Champions is really weird though. It's essentially an all-star game for motorsports, but despite the name some of the biggest champions in motorsport either rarely show up or never show up, and many of the drivers aren't champions at all. Additionally, different drivers visibly take it more or less seriously, so it's questionable how much weight should be attached to the result; more than Top Gear I suppose, but less than a real competitive outing between the same drivers would merit.

I think it's a case of which of the Champions want to turn up and some of the other drivers are just fillers for those that don't.

Regardless of this the ROC Champion is really no more relevant than the Top Gear fastest lap, it's merely an opportunity for the drivers to give something back for the fans.

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pokerman wrote:
nixxxon wrote:
Why didnt Alonso and Hamilton take part of it? No clue. As of last years participations too.

As far as I know Alonso participated only in the RoC 2001 Nations cup and they won it for Spain. After that, nothing... :?

Were was that held?

I find it disappointing that Hamilton always chooses not to compete especially as it's held in London were he must have loads of fans.

It was held in Canary Islands.


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nixxxon wrote:
pokerman wrote:
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Why didnt Alonso and Hamilton take part of it? No clue. As of last years participations too.

As far as I know Alonso participated only in the RoC 2001 Nations cup and they won it for Spain. After that, nothing... :?

Were was that held?

I find it disappointing that Hamilton always chooses not to compete especially as it's held in London were he must have loads of fans.

It was held in Canary Islands.

I remember the format, I think it was rally cars racing on a loose road, it's a shame that some drivers perhaps think they have become to big for such events?

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pokerman wrote:
nixxxon wrote:
pokerman wrote:
nixxxon wrote:
Why didnt Alonso and Hamilton take part of it? No clue. As of last years participations too.

As far as I know Alonso participated only in the RoC 2001 Nations cup and they won it for Spain. After that, nothing... :?

Were was that held?

I find it disappointing that Hamilton always chooses not to compete especially as it's held in London were he must have loads of fans.

It was held in Canary Islands.

I remember the format, I think it was rally cars racing on a loose road, it's a shame that some drivers perhaps think they have become to big for such events?


Or perhaps just don't enjoy doing it or have other commitments.


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I also always loved the karting in Paris-Bercy when the top drivers came there, Senna and Prost and all. That was awesome.


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I also always loved the karting in Paris-Bercy when the top drivers came there, Senna and Prost and all. That was awesome.


I think Bercy Kart Masters is still a thing. Senna and Prost only raced there in 1993 though. They use electric karts now, and it's mostly French drivers (much like Massa's super karts race is mostly Brazilians).


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I also always loved the karting in Paris-Bercy when the top drivers came there, Senna and Prost and all. That was awesome.

Yes that was excellent, Schumacher raced there as well

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I reckon they should have kart races a few times a season at the tracks with the best kart tracks near by (I bet there's loads). Televise it and make it compulsory :)

It being nearby it wouldn't add much to the race weekend commitments for the drivers and it would be pretty fun and interesting to watch. There's a reason watching Senna and Prost go at it on a kart track is so compelling.

Even going at it from the cringey marketing angle, it would help F1 and it's stars connect with the fans. Afterall lots of people have or do go go-karting with their mates but very few have every driven any level of single seat racing car.

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Regardless of this the ROC Champion is really no more relevant than the Top Gear fastest lap


Well, it is a tad more relevant as it happens at the same time under the same conditions ;)

But yeah, ultimately it doesn't reflect on their qualities as an F1 driver.

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Congrats to Seb, winning in equal machinery under equal conditions.


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Haven't seen any figures for the crowd but the stadium looked pretty sparsely populated - particularly on Friday. Seems an odd decision to me not to make it a Saturday and Sunday event.


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Haven't seen any figures for the crowd but the stadium looked pretty sparsely populated - particularly on Friday. Seems an odd decision to me not to make it a Saturday and Sunday event.


27000 I think but due to the size of the arena it would have been impossible to fill up!


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Haven't seen any figures for the crowd but the stadium looked pretty sparsely populated - particularly on Friday. Seems an odd decision to me not to make it a Saturday and Sunday event.


27000 I think but due to the size of the arena it would have been impossible to fill up!

The Friday in particular looked like a disaster in terms of attendance. I went to the one at Wembley a few years ago and it was much busier. It struck me afterwards that people may have been staying away in the wake of the Paris attacks. And the weather had just turned super cold too. I bet last minute and at-the-gate sales were down on what they expected. It's a shame.

On a side note it seemed a bit badly run this time. Drivers in the wrong cars, cars in the wrong 'lane', sometimes no way of distinguishing between the two cars except for a small flag (useless when both competitors are from the same country). And the commentators didn't seem to know what was going on half the time. It would have been interesting to know who the passengers were too... for some reason Ben Ainslie seemed to be in every other race but apart from him it was all a bit mysterious. Still entertaining, just a little frustrating at times.

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