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Best driving pairing
Mercedes (Lewis, Nico) 17%  17%  [ 9 ]
Ferrari (Seb, Kimi) 12%  12%  [ 6 ]
Red Bull (Dan, Max) 29%  29%  [ 15 ]
Williams (Felipe, Bottas) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
STR (Carlos, Kvyat) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Haas (Rogro, Esteban) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Force India (Checo, Hulk) 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
McLaren (Fernando, Jenson) 38%  38%  [ 20 ]
Renault (Jolyon, Kevin) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Sauber (Nasr, Ericsson) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Manor (Wehrlein, Haryanto) 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 11:37 am 
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Ok they only did one race together yet but for me it's the RBR duo.
Actually for the first time since McLaren paired Senna and Prost together I'm having these vibes that we could have a strong rivalry with 2 fast and future WDC's for some (many?) years to come.
I'm not saying Seb and Lewis had their days already. With 7 WDC's and both still fairly young it sounds they have been the men battling it out together on the front mostly but in reality I haven't seen the rivalry between them like with past greats. Obviously both are top drivers potential to be great in F1 history. But as Ferrari and Merc have been suggesting those 2 drivers might be the dominating force for years to come, I frankly don't see it now and somehow I would be glad for guys like Dan and Max to get in the mix too.

The other pairings I would rank as follows:

2 Merc
3 McLaren
4 Force India
5 Ferrari
6 STR
7 Williams
8 Haas
9 Renault
10 Sauber
11 Manor

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 12:07 pm 
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No the rivalry between them hasn't really happened because they haven't been in the same team and as F1 is a one team at a time domination these days, the only way you would get to see that is if they were on the same team. Sadly I doubt either of them would relish that idea.

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 12:28 pm 
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4 Force India
5 Ferrari


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I think its hard to say who has the best, but the big 4 teams all have excellent pairings.

Performance differentials are denying us a golden era.


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Mclaren - By quite a long way
Mercedes
Red Bull
Ferrari
Force India
STR
Williams
Haas
Manor
Renault
Sauber


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For me the best drivers at the moment are without a doubt in the top teams; by that I mean (in no particular order) Mercedes, Ferrari, Red Bull and McLaren (who are till a top team for me despite going through a period of hardship). It's quite difficult to separate them (didn't we have a similar poll around a week ago?), but if forced I would probably go with:

1. McLaren (Alonso best, Button strongest "number 2")
2. Ferrari (Vettel 2nd best, Kimi right up there now he has a car he's comfortable with)
3. Mercedes (Lewis 3rd best, Nico very fast)
4. Red Bull (Dan a proven talent, Max showing tremendous promise)

Jury's still out for me a little bit exactly where Red Bull sit and the positions above are not set in stone. Then for me there's a bit of a gap:

5. Williams (Bottas similar to Rosberg, Massa great on his day)
6. Toro Rosso (Sainz excellent, let down a bit by Kvyat)
7. Force India (both Hulk and Perez can be great one minute and meh the next. Quite hard to place them).
8. Haas (Grosjean very good and quick, let down by Gutierrez)
9. Renault (largely because of KM)
10. Manor (Wehrlein)
11. Sauber


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Merc. I haven't got a handle on RBR yet and can't pick a standout from Alonso/Vettel/Hamilton. But I think Nico is currently stronger than Button and Kimi so... Merc.

It's crazy close though. I wonder when was the last time there were four teams with such strong lineups (never mind the strength of the 'midfield' at Williams, FI, STR).

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RBR (their young driver programs pays dividends)
Ferrari (Vettel has a nose in front, while Kimi is 2nd in the standings, impressive)
Merc (until Ham sorts himself out)
Williams (most underrated pairing capable of good results)
Mclaren (Button is a weaker link missing the "wow" factor that Alonso delivers at times)

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McLaren
Mercedes
Red Bull
Ferrari
Force India
Toro Rosso
Haas
Manor
Sauber
Renault


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Badgeronimous wrote:
I think its hard to say who has the best, but the big 4 teams all have excellent pairings.

Performance differentials are denying us a golden era.

Well said.

Best driver pairing is Lewis & Fernando @ Mercedes in 2017.

You heard it here first, for the second time in a week. LOL

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F1 MERCENARY wrote:
Badgeronimous wrote:
I think its hard to say who has the best, but the big 4 teams all have excellent pairings.

Performance differentials are denying us a golden era.

Well said.

Best driver pairing is Lewis & Fernando @ Mercedes in 2017.

You heard it here first, for the second time in a week. LOL


You positive Merc will boot out Nico even if he wins WDC? And how much will they need to put on the table to buy out Fernando's contract with McLaren?

Btw time to update your signature, Maldonado is no longer in F1 :)

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I think McLaren still have the strongest pairing, followed by Mercedes. As I see it, Alonso > Hamilton and Button > Rosberg.


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Still the criminally wasted duo of Button & Alonso for me. As someone who has witnessed their entire F1 careers it pains me to watch talent like that driving their nuts off in the hope of scavenging a point or two. Yes, there is a group of exciting young talent to enjoy, but these two are class acts and have more than proved themselves and still have much left to offer. If they're on the grid, they should be up front.

After that Mercedes and potentially Red Bull.

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Merc
Ferrari
Mclaren
Red Bull

To be honest I think they are mostly interchangeable.

After that Force India/Williams tie.


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All the Dan and Max votes make you realize how much people can be prisoners of the moment...


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All the Dan and Max votes make you realize how much people can be prisoners of the moment...

To be fair, people have thought of Ricciardo as a top-4 driver since 2014. If Max is truly matching him, it makes sense to select them as the #1 driver pairing - none of the rest would have 2 of the top 5 drivers in them by that reasoning.

I still think it's Alonso and Button, however. I've yet to be convinced Verstappen is indeed at the same level as Ricciardo, though I am open to the possibility of it being proven true.

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After some consideration, I went with McLaren, although it's not by a large margin to me. Mercedes, Ferrari, and McLaren all certainly have strong line-ups, but while I like Ferrari's current line-up the best, I do think that for sheer strength McLaren comes out ahead here. Mercedes might be getting close if Rosberg can keep this form up. Red Bull's line-up is surely not bad, but I think it's too early to declare it great. It is probably the fourth best, since in my opinion it drops off sharply after that.

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Well at the moment there are several people driving better than Lewis, so while I would have picked Mercedes last year I'm now looking at Ferrari/Red Bull/McLaren. And boy it's a tough choice. Seb and Kimi are pretty even at the moment. So are Dan and Max, and so are Alonso and Button. I don't think I have any other choice than to pick Ferrari just because I like them the most as I can't make up my mind.

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