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First few laps should be interesting. Expecting a Hamilton resurgence as this track has been dominated by Mercedes.

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Kvyat has a very special helmet for this weekend.

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UnlikeUday wrote:
First few laps should be interesting. Expecting a Hamilton resurgence as this track has been dominated by Mercedes.
Every track has been dominated by Mercedes since 2014. I don't think that's a reliable measure!


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Zoue wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:
First few laps should be interesting. Expecting a Hamilton resurgence as this track has been dominated by Mercedes.
Every track has been dominated by Mercedes since 2014. I don't think that's a reliable measure!

True, I do think this track will suit Mercedes though and Spain will suit Ferrari.

I'll happily be proven wrong but I have a feeling this will be a comfortable weekend for the silver arrows.


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Zoue wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:
First few laps should be interesting. Expecting a Hamilton resurgence as this track has been dominated by Mercedes.
Every track has been dominated by Mercedes since 2014. I don't think that's a reliable measure!

True, I do think this track will suit Mercedes though and Spain will suit Ferrari.

I'll happily be proven wrong but I have a feeling this will be a comfortable weekend for the silver arrows.

You're probably right. I just thought the reasoning was a bit suspect!


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Zoue wrote:
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Zoue wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:
First few laps should be interesting. Expecting a Hamilton resurgence as this track has been dominated by Mercedes.
Every track has been dominated by Mercedes since 2014. I don't think that's a reliable measure!

True, I do think this track will suit Mercedes though and Spain will suit Ferrari.

I'll happily be proven wrong but I have a feeling this will be a comfortable weekend for the silver arrows.

You're probably right. I just thought the reasoning was a bit suspect!


That's what I meant even Zoue. Vettel has a better chance in Spain. Here Hamilton should coast to a victory.

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Hopefully Bottas can/has overcome the issues he encountered in Bahrain and challenges Lewis.

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I hate this track, it's absolute garbage.


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GingerFurball wrote:
I hate this track, it's absolute garbage.


T3's not bad but yeah the rest ain't great.

Agree with Black Flag above. Low tyre deg here should help Mercedes as well.

Ferrari did win Bahrain though, and there were rumours they did so with their engine turned down a bit because of worries about their Turbo. If that was true and it is solved then it still could be close.

McLaren have MGU-H fixes in place so hopefully Stoff can at least get out the bloody garage. Improved mapping giving better power delivery(Might be able to actually get on the throttle less than 10m after a corner now!) and helping reduce vibrations(Might be able to change gear normally now!!).

Haven't heard much from Red Bull at all.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:04 pm 
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GingerFurball wrote:
I hate this track, it's absolute garbage.

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Lt. Drebin wrote:
GingerFurball wrote:
I hate this track, it's absolute garbage.

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Come on! Cheer up a bit :lol: I have actually enjoyed watching every race here and the location looks great. If it is absolute gargabe to you people, then don't watch it. I wouldn't waist my time looking at garbage :-P


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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Lt. Drebin wrote:
GingerFurball wrote:
I hate this track, it's absolute garbage.

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Come on! Cheer up a bit :lol: I have actually enjoyed watching every race here and the location looks great. If it is absolute gargabe to you people, then don't watch it. I wouldn't waist my time looking at garbage :-P

The track is garbage but we like F1 so we will watch :-P

Go Vettel :]

...And Massa, and Wehlrein,... and go all the rest after them.

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UnlikeUday wrote:
Zoue wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Zoue wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:
First few laps should be interesting. Expecting a Hamilton resurgence as this track has been dominated by Mercedes.
Every track has been dominated by Mercedes since 2014. I don't think that's a reliable measure!

True, I do think this track will suit Mercedes though and Spain will suit Ferrari.

I'll happily be proven wrong but I have a feeling this will be a comfortable weekend for the silver arrows.

You're probably right. I just thought the reasoning was a bit suspect!


That's what I meant even Zoue. Vettel has a better chance in Spain. Here Hamilton should coast to a victory.

It's the cold temperature and the high percentage of the lap that is taken flat out that really bodes well for Mercedes. It will not be an easy victory though. Ferrari will be right there; even on a track that suits Mercedes better. Barcelona will have hotter track temps and a lot more twisty bits. That should definitely be Ferrari's track.


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Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Kvyat has a very special helmet for this weekend.

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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The track is bland as hell, and it will be very hard to overtake, but I still looking forward to the race. I think people are sleeping on Ferrari. Looks like most people are expecting to do a one stopper, but I have a feeling the guys in red are going to try something different. I hope Lewis wins, but it won't be easy.


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Lt. Drebin wrote:
GingerFurball wrote:
I hate this track, it's absolute garbage.

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Hear hear.

If Spa is the equivalent of giving me an erection, then Sochi pushes it back so far that it looks as though I have lady curtains. I've seen better corners on a bottle opener.

Should be a good race, though.

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Ben Edwards not sounding very excited that Bottas has just gone 1.7 seconds faster than anyone. If that was Hamilton, he would have said "Noone can touch him!" and have sounded really excited :D

But I know the times show nothing now. It was just the way that when Hamilton was faster than anyone by only a small margin, he seemed to make a bigger deal of that than Bottas beating everyone by a huge margin. The commentators just love Hamilton...


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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Ben Edwards not sounding very excited that Bottas has just gone 1.7 seconds faster than anyone. If that was Hamilton, he would have said "Noone can touch him!" and have sounded really excited :D

But I know the times show nothing now. It was just the way that when Hamilton was faster than anyone by only a small margin, he seemed to make a bigger deal of that than Bottas beating everyone by a huge margin. The commentators just love Hamilton...


A British broadcaster biased towards a British driver...Surely not


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God I hate Sky commentary - just turned on and they are talking about which is the longest city in the world. Really!?

Thankfully just realised its on Channel 4 too!

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Ferrari churning through their turbos. At this rate they may end up taking a penalty at Monaco...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/new-turbos-put-vettel-raikkonen-closer-to-grid-penalties-898902/


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I'll take it! Just copy and paste into the sunday results and I'll be happy.

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1st engine related penalty already here!

Vandoorne to get a 15 place grid penalty as he gets a 5th MGU-H & a turbocharger for the weekend:

https://www.motorsportweek.com/news/id/14458

So much for the positivity after the 2nd day of test at Bahrain.

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Andy2402 wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Ben Edwards not sounding very excited that Bottas has just gone 1.7 seconds faster than anyone. If that was Hamilton, he would have said "Noone can touch him!" and have sounded really excited :D

But I know the times show nothing now. It was just the way that when Hamilton was faster than anyone by only a small margin, he seemed to make a bigger deal of that than Bottas beating everyone by a huge margin. The commentators just love Hamilton...


A British broadcaster biased towards a British driver...Surely not


How long before they surmise that Hamilton has 'an issue'... because Bottas outperforming Hamilton on the same tyres is unfathomable.

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Zoue wrote:
Ferrari churning through their turbos. At this rate they may end up taking a penalty at Monaco...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/new-turbos-put-vettel-raikkonen-closer-to-grid-penalties-898902/


Based on some comments, they're just removing and fixing up turbos fairly regularly rather than having to remove broken parts so may not be as bad as it appears. Time well tell though.


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What's going on with the respective pace of Ferrari and Mercedes here? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.


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What's going on with the respective pace of Ferrari and Mercedes here? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.


Interesting to hear Christian Horner say, from all the relevant data at their disposal, Ferrari have the fastest race car? Ben Edwards concurred.


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Groan, discussions are underway for giving points further down the grid, so further rewarding reliability with what I can guarantee a further devaluation of race wins.

Why do I seem to have always the opposite opinion to Crofty he just grinds on me, like you may be watching race and he will say it's getting a bit boring a SC would soon liven it up, that's not what racing is about.

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SR1 wrote:
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What's going on with the respective pace of Ferrari and Mercedes here? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.


Interesting to hear Christian Horner say, from all the relevant data at their disposal, Ferrari have the fastest race car? Ben Edwards concurred.

...over to Zoue.

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What's going on with the respective pace of Ferrari and Mercedes here? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.


Interesting to hear Christian Horner say, from all the relevant data at their disposal, Ferrari have the fastest race car? Ben Edwards concurred.

...over to Zoue.

Different track, different strengths and weaknesses.


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pokerman wrote:
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What's going on with the respective pace of Ferrari and Mercedes here? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.


Interesting to hear Christian Horner say, from all the relevant data at their disposal, Ferrari have the fastest race car? Ben Edwards concurred.

...over to Zoue.


Seems to be the growing opinion that Merc are fastest in qualifying, Ferrari fastest in race trim...


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1st engine related penalty already here!

Vandoorne to get a 15 place grid penalty as he gets a 5th MGU-H & a turbocharger for the weekend:

https://www.motorsportweek.com/news/id/14458

So much for the positivity after the 2nd day of test at Bahrain.


All that positive talk was just that, talk. Results matter and now Honda has their first engine penalty. Every improvement simply does nothing to advance McLaren.


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Big discrepancy in the 2nd sector.
Ham: 32.608
Vet: 32.265
That ferrari has some downforce. Looking more and more like mercs only saving grace is their power unit. Qualifying should be super close.


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Herb Tarlik wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:
1st engine related penalty already here!

Vandoorne to get a 15 place grid penalty as he gets a 5th MGU-H & a turbocharger for the weekend:

https://www.motorsportweek.com/news/id/14458

So much for the positivity after the 2nd day of test at Bahrain.


All that positive talk was just that, talk. Results matter and now Honda has their first engine penalty. Every improvement simply does nothing to advance McLaren.


If they cant get both cars to the finish line on sunday they should just go home already. Too embarrassing.


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MistaVega23 wrote:
Lt. Drebin wrote:
GingerFurball wrote:
I hate this track, it's absolute garbage.

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Hear hear.

If Spa is the equivalent of giving me an erection, then Sochi pushes it back so far that it looks as though I have lady curtains. I've seen better corners on a bottle opener.

Should be a good race, though.

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Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
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What's going on with the respective pace of Ferrari and Mercedes here? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.


Interesting to hear Christian Horner say, from all the relevant data at their disposal, Ferrari have the fastest race car? Ben Edwards concurred.

...over to Zoue.

Different track, different strengths and weaknesses.

Oh they are just referring to today?

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Ennis wrote:
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Ferrari churning through their turbos. At this rate they may end up taking a penalty at Monaco...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/new-turbos-put-vettel-raikkonen-closer-to-grid-penalties-898902/


Based on some comments, they're just removing and fixing up turbos fairly regularly rather than having to remove broken parts so may not be as bad as it appears. Time well tell though.


From the media comments I've heard, it sounds more serious than that. And with the rule changes on penalties this year after what Hamilton did last year, Seb will need a miracle to win the championship.


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pokerman wrote:
Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
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What's going on with the respective pace of Ferrari and Mercedes here? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.


Interesting to hear Christian Horner say, from all the relevant data at their disposal, Ferrari have the fastest race car? Ben Edwards concurred.

...over to Zoue.

Different track, different strengths and weaknesses.

Oh they are just referring to today?


No, both Christian & Ben talked in terms of Ferrari being the benchmark this year so far, the class of the field.


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