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Are F1 Drivers the Best in the World?
F1 drivers are the very best in the world. 22%  22%  [ 14 ]
F1 drivers are the very best open wheel drivers. 30%  30%  [ 19 ]
F1 drivers are the very best road racers. 6%  6%  [ 4 ]
F1 drivers are good, but not always the best. 29%  29%  [ 18 ]
F1 drivers are overrated. 13%  13%  [ 8 ]
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:42 am 
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Badgeronimous wrote:
A 6'4", 90kg man.... of terrific talent.... probably wouldn't make it in F1.

To be winning in the top levels of Karts, you need to be of slight build, so it makes the path to F1 harder for anyone bigger than average. Add on the fact you need significant backing and a family that drive you to motorsport from a very young age..... the talent pool is relatively small.

There are so many different disciplines in motorsport. F1 drivers are probably the best open wheel racers in the world, but its like comparing rugby league, with rugby union, with Aussie Rules, with NFL with Hurling, etc....


I agree, I said a similar thing earlier in the post. Shane Van Gisbergen is the prime example


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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 2:43 pm 
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Chunky wrote:
Glorified go-cart jockeys.

The best drivers are undoubtedly in rallying. The car control is incredible, the road surface is constantly varying and unpredictable, plus they don't get to hone it to perfection from lap to lap. If they push a bit too hard it's not a trip to the run-off and come back on track, it's curtains.

Sadly, they were better in the days before cars got dumbed down and filled with fancy tech. If anyone doubts how good the rough stuff boys are look at the video of Ari Vatenen doing Pike's Peak. Awesome.


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Sorry but this is heavily flawed.

Rally drivers do indeed have to contend with more than any other drivers in any series that I can think of… HOWEVER…

while they may be superb in their discipline, having to maximize speed across several types of surfaces with constant and extreme undulation, being able to maximize performance on a smooth solid surface is a completely different animal and most rally drivers would struggle to find and even push to the limit. They are simply too used to driving with the accelerator more than anything and they're also extremely accustomed to All-Wheel drive which is completely alien to F1 cars.

Only a select special few would be able to do well in F1. Loeb is one who is a special talent it seems and had he been given the chance to drive in F1 he would have likely shined.

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:26 pm 
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Chunky wrote:
Glorified go-cart jockeys.

The best drivers are undoubtedly in rallying. The car control is incredible, the road surface is constantly varying and unpredictable, plus they don't get to hone it to perfection from lap to lap. If they push a bit too hard it's not a trip to the run-off and come back on track, it's curtains.

Sadly, they were better in the days before cars got dumbed down and filled with fancy tech. If anyone doubts how good the rough stuff boys are look at the video of Ari Vatenen doing Pike's Peak. Awesome.


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Sorry but this is heavily flawed.

Rally drivers do indeed have to contend with more than any other drivers in any series that I can think of… HOWEVER…

while they may be superb in their discipline, having to maximize speed across several types of surfaces with constant and extreme undulation, being able to maximize performance on a smooth solid surface is a completely different animal and most rally drivers would struggle to find and even push to the limit. They are simply too used to driving with the accelerator more than anything and they're also extremely accustomed to All-Wheel drive which is completely alien to F1 cars.

Only a select special few would be able to do well in F1. Loeb is one who is a special talent it seems and had he been given the chance to drive in F1 he would have likely shined.

There are a few drivers that did well in F1 tests. Loeb was 8th overall in a test he did back in the late 00's. Valentino Rossi was even more impressive, his time being within 0.5sec from one Michael Schumacher, being faster than the likes of Webber, DC, Trulli in his test. McRae also did times within a couple of seconds of the F1 drivers when he tested. Hell, even Tom Cruise had a go and he was actually fast!

The thing is if they could do it in a whole race, in a whole race weekend, over a whole year. That's a different animal altogether. The consistency needed is probably the biggest factor for me


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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 1:36 pm 
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I think it's clear F1 drivers AREN'T the best - the rally drivers are more skilled - the current F1 drivers can point and shoot but don't need to 'drive' the car other than the odd save - although at least they're not told what to correct as they were a couple of years ago.

It's not like the drivers do various forms of motorsport (like they did in the 50s / 60s) - and many underwhelm or hardly set the world on fire in other formulae - even if they are competitive


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