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I'm hoping for a race with some good overtakes.

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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 1:03 pm 
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I'm hoping for a race with some good overtakes.

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UnlikeUday wrote:
I'm hoping for a race with some good overtakes.


It's Catalunya. It just won't happen.

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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 1:04 pm 
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UnlikeUday wrote:
I'm hoping for a race with some good overtakes.


Nice one. :D


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Hamilton has been a bit cautions on the breaks at turn 1 from starts this season, good chance Vettel will lead into turn 2.


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Hamilton has been a bit cautions on the breaks at turn 1 from starts this season, good chance Vettel will lead into turn 2.


Hamilton got completely mugged by Rosberg there last year and I can see it happening again if Vettel is in range. However, the Mercedes has been good off the line this year and with Vettel on the dirtier side I am, for once, backing Hamilton to lead at turn 1.

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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 2:28 pm 
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VDV23 wrote:
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I'm hoping for a race with some good overtakes.


Nice one. :D


Lets be realistic, a good race with lots of strategy options and changes for position via undercutting or tyre disparities. :thumbup:

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Pirelli believes either of the 2 Pit stop strategies would be the best at the track:

The quickest:
Three-stopper: three 20-lap stints on softs and one on mediums to the flag.

Second quickest:
Two-stopper: two 25-lap stints on softs and one stint on mediums to the flag.

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I wonder if someone in the lower places might try to start on the mediums and get rid of them after 1 or 2 laps, especially if there is some SC or VSC in the first laps, and then do 3 stints on the softs.


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 9:26 am 
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UnlikeUday wrote:
Pirelli believes either of the 2 Pit stop strategies would be the best at the track:

The quickest:
Three-stopper: three 20-lap stints on softs and one on mediums to the flag.

Second quickest:
Two-stopper: two 25-lap stints on softs and one stint on mediums to the flag.



Ferrari think the best strategy is to pit on lap 3 then do the rest on a set of mediums. "no honestly kimi we predict a podium finish. yes seb is gonna do the same".


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paul85 wrote:
I wonder if someone in the lower places might try to start on the mediums and get rid of them after 1 or 2 laps, especially if there is some SC or VSC in the first laps, and then do 3 stints on the softs.


the mediums could spice things up nicely. if say the leader has a 5s lead and whoever is in 2nd pits and puts the softs on, maybe they could go mediums on the next lap and just try to hold the pack up for a bit. drive like verstappen and then ditch the mediums after a few laps.

what will probably happen is everyones strategy computer will be saying the same thing and it will be a big anticlimax.


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 10:10 am 
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Caserole of Nonsense wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:
Pirelli believes either of the 2 Pit stop strategies would be the best at the track:

The quickest:
Three-stopper: three 20-lap stints on softs and one on mediums to the flag.

Second quickest:
Two-stopper: two 25-lap stints on softs and one stint on mediums to the flag.



Ferrari think the best strategy is to pit on lap 3 then do the rest on a set of mediums. "no honestly kimi we predict a podium finish. yes seb is gonna do the same".



Why lap 3? I see what you are saying, but by lap 3 the traffic will probably still not have sorted its self out, and the tyres will only have 5 laps on them?

So coming out with about 15 cars infront of you will not give much advantage to having fresh rubber either.

Do they explain the thinking here? I can not see the advantage over say lap 6 or 8 or so, which will have bigger gaps to exit the pit.


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 10:37 am 
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moby wrote:
Caserole of Nonsense wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:
Pirelli believes either of the 2 Pit stop strategies would be the best at the track:

The quickest:
Three-stopper: three 20-lap stints on softs and one on mediums to the flag.

Second quickest:
Two-stopper: two 25-lap stints on softs and one stint on mediums to the flag.



Ferrari think the best strategy is to pit on lap 3 then do the rest on a set of mediums. "no honestly kimi we predict a podium finish. yes seb is gonna do the same".



Why lap 3? I see what you are saying, but by lap 3 the traffic will probably still not have sorted its self out, and the tyres will only have 5 laps on them?

So coming out with about 15 cars infront of you will not give much advantage to having fresh rubber either.

Do they explain the thinking here? I can not see the advantage over say lap 6 or 8 or so, which will have bigger gaps to exit the pit.


i dont know if you are being serious or not but ill give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are being sarcastic (like i was)


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Hamilton has been a bit cautions on the breaks at turn 1 from starts this season, good chance Vettel will lead into turn 2.

Let's be honest, Hamilton has never been comfortable with the brakes since he arrived at Mercedes. They faffed around with brake suppliers in 2014 after his brake failure in Q1 in Germany and I don't think he's fully trusted them since.

I remember Lowe saying that the brakes were the worst part of their title winning cars from 2014-2016. Does anyone remember that?

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moby wrote:
Caserole of Nonsense wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:
Pirelli believes either of the 2 Pit stop strategies would be the best at the track:

The quickest:
Three-stopper: three 20-lap stints on softs and one on mediums to the flag.

Second quickest:
Two-stopper: two 25-lap stints on softs and one stint on mediums to the flag.



Ferrari think the best strategy is to pit on lap 3 then do the rest on a set of mediums. "no honestly kimi we predict a podium finish. yes seb is gonna do the same".



Why lap 3? I see what you are saying, but by lap 3 the traffic will probably still not have sorted its self out, and the tyres will only have 5 laps on them?

So coming out with about 15 cars infront of you will not give much advantage to having fresh rubber either.

Do they explain the thinking here? I can not see the advantage over say lap 6 or 8 or so, which will have bigger gaps to exit the pit.


Erm, Tis a joke, sire.


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oh great.... Alonso having trouble getting off the grid....

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Wow... chaos start..... I think Kimi's Ferrari is out...

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Yep, kimi is out. Typical kimi.


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What did I say? Although Hamilton still has the undercut.

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How did I know this would happen with Verstappen behind Kimi? Way to ruin someones race.


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P2 on the grid has won both preliminary races and now Vettle beats Hamilton and is driving away............


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This will be interesting to see if Mercedes better long run over from Friday carries over into the race.


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This will be interesting to see if Mercedes better long run over from Friday carries over into the race.

Hamilton should have an opportunity if he can close up at the end of the first stint.

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Vettel pulled 2 seconds ahead on the opening lap 8O


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'No action warranted' for the Kimi/Max bash

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Hamilton seems to be leaving a 2-3 seconds gap deliberately.


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Bottas clearing house today I see...

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Hamilton seems to be leaving a 2-3 seconds gap deliberately.

Mercedes strategy guy needs a decent race or he should be sacked. He's botched 50% of the races this season.

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Yep, kimi is out. Typical kimi.

It was Bottas who punted Kimi into Max. Kimi was sandwiched by Max and was a bit of a passenger, to be fair


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Another boring race seems to be awaiting us.


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Racing incident at T1 IMO. 3 cars trying to take the corner at the same time and they were a few centimetres of space too short.


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First corner incident was marginal. People have got away with worse contact in the past.
From the overhead, nobody really barged into anyone, there just wasn't enough space to go 3-wide there.


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Herb Tarlik wrote:
Yep, kimi is out. Typical kimi.


Well it's not is it. Kimi is usually pretty amazing at avoiding accidents.


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How did I know this would happen with Verstappen behind Kimi? Way to ruin someones race.


It looked like Kimi touched Bottas first, got bounced towards Max. A racing incident, nothing more than that.


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Why are the stewards looking at Massa for 'forcing Alonso off the track'? Massa had two slow, broken cars in front of him & was trying to avoid him. Complete racing incident TBH.

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Bottas is very lucky not to be joining the retiree's


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Another boring race seems to be awaiting us.

Dunno why you bother

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Zoue wrote:
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Yep, kimi is out. Typical kimi.

It was Bottas who punted Kimi into Max. Kimi was sandwiched by Max and was a bit of a passenger, to be fair

I thought Bottas was trying to avoid Kimi, moving to the right but Kimi wasn't left any space on his left to avoid Verstappen.


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