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I think that's about how I feel too. I really can't watch Sky's pre- and post-race stuff after several weeks of comparison. Lazenby is just a boarish oaf and although Georgie is getting a bit better (but still interrupts Ant / McNish), Hill is totally boring. I really just don't like Lazenby at all and can't bear to watch his squinting, idiotic face or listen to his guffawing and snorting any more. He's not "one of the lads" and never will be.

Jake on the other hand, maintains a good level of professionalism and respect despite being more friendly with the drivers and team principals these days. That means he can be amiable and familiar without looking like an unwanted pleb gatecrashing a party.

I still like listening to Jordans opinions, which usually provoke a reaction from DC - on SKY they all sit on the fence and never say anything which might cause you to feel anything about it.

I watch the races on SKY and am enjoying the commentary at the moment, which has definitely improved as Crofty and Brundle have got used to partnering. I also find Edwards and DC pretty good on the BBC, but tend towards SKY. As soon as the race is over, it's back to BBC for me.

Agreed. I've always thought steve brought that much more class to a show. Nothing against jake who is doing a good job. Jake is just in the EJ "laurel & hardy" bracket.

When EJ ranted through the force india offices i was literally cringing. Paul diResta didnt do himself any favours by marking an X on EJ's face. Made him look a bit of a twat in my eyes.

Sky has certainly begun to outperform BBC at this stage in the season, and as they do not have a longterm future in the sport and development seems to have stopped, they will only get worse as the year goes on.

Still cannot stand Jake on BBC, i feel that at least Simon Lazenby is getting better, whereas Jake seems to think he is something special, DC and Eddie have some great skills, but they are in the wrong team.

After race on the BBC seemed to be put together by a few teenagers, very amateurish. Wish i didn't have to pay for it, but at least they are spending some money and getting better.


In my opinion, anyone who would rather have a slimy presenter over a past champion who may not be slick on camera, maybe has their priorities a bit mixed up for a true F1 supporter.

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I'm not going to pay for my crabs like you sell outs. I'm going to keep with my free syphillis, thank you. Free STDs is a right, this country is going to the dogs. Blah blah blah Murdoch pubes blah blah.

Anyone like freebies?

SKY are allowing people to watch all sports channels for free on the German GP weekend.

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Forza Fernando !

Anyone know why SKY are skipping Series Review 1992, and moving from 1991 to 1993?

On and Johnny Herbert is one of the most likable presenters I have seen.

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All Time Favorite: Ayrton Senna

Others: Damon Hill
Montoya

Current: Lewis Hamilition

True. I go to 3 or 4 races a year; but I will never consider myself a true fan like those who sit at home and watch it on the telly.

3 or 4? Where do you live? Europe or Asia?

Sorry if it sounded nosey or rude.

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I think through this thread I've realised there seems to be two different ways to categorise the viewers, and it usually seems to influence which coverage they watch if they have the choice).

Group 1: Those who view F1 as a special event, enjoying the atmosphere and spectacle. These people seem to gravitate towards BBC as it seems to provide much more in the way of entertainment, putting on a show and making F1 as enjoyable as possible. For example, DC and Jake talking to the crowds after the British GP.

group 2: Those who like the technical and nitty gritty side of F1. These gravitate towards Sky as they do much more analysis, but don't involve themselves with the spectacle side of things. Sky has much more time to go into depth about the cars and events of the race, but neglect what's happening outside the race.

I think he's trying to be the Eddie Jordan of Sky's coverage, but to me he comes across as being quite manic and in all honesty I find him to be a little creepy. He appears to have a weird obsession with touching people (so much so that Simon Lazenby made a pretty pointed comment about him being 'the most tactile man in the world' last week) - whenever he's in a group of people he will usually have his hand on someone's shoulder or on their back.

I believe the current internet venacular demands that somebody say 'pwned'.

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Yup , totally sums it up, some people prefer the emotional side and some people the technical side - and neither are right or wrong of course. Certainly no one should pass judgement on what a proper F1 fan is.

Personally speaking, I am saving up to take a year off and go to every single race, in which case I will view you all as rabid dogs merely licking at the heels of the true F1 fan!

Wasn't sure about Sky F1 at first but loving it now. Everybody on the Sky F1 team are to be congratulated especially Georgie Thompson

Sheldon Cooper, is that you?

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Official Kamui Kobayashi Fanboy

Or, those that is poor,
And those that is not...

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Bazinga!

I assumed the bazinga was implied

That's a good question! Yeah Johnny is good..

Only any good if the indycar is on....

Or, those that have real life
And those that are not...

it's just a joke, just couldn't resist. I still struggle to meet (in real life) a person who got a job and family and watches everything SkyF1 shows (i am not saying 'Sky is bad' or 'Sky is good')

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We are worse than animals, we hunger for the kill.
We put our faith in maniacs the triumph of the will,
We kill for money, wealth and lust, for this we should be damned.
We are disease upon the world, brotherhood of man.

I think Sky can really feel the momentum now, they've found a balance with the presenters and the freebie weekend is probably the start of a "we've found our groove lets start chasing those that are on the fence looking over wondering what the fuss is about" campaign

Even with Lazenby and Hill, its getting better Georgie and Ant have really improved and Johnny has brought a whole new dynamic to the panel of pundits.

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Momentum is so great they are upping their prices

I think that's a fair assessment. Entertainment is the reason I watch F1. I watch both BBC and Sky races since they're split and prefer the former because the Jake, Eddie and DC show is bloody funny. The only thing I would take from Sky is Brundle's commentary and gridwalk.

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We want heroes, but there are few, mainly it's cars - Pedro De La Rosa

Are they? My payments are fixed until the middle of next year!

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Go Jenson

I haven't heard anything either, they were making a big thing in their adverts over the last 6 months that they were freezing prices but I can't remember until when.

Jezick do you have a link to details of the price rise, I couldn't find anything on Sky's website?

Price rise kicks in on 1st September 2012 and according to this Sky's customers will be notified in July via letter or email notifications -

http://www.sky.com/helpcentre/account-a ... index.html

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Best Round Result: =2nd (Europe 2012)
Podiums: 2 (Europe 2012, Singapore 2012)
Top 10 finishes: 5
2012 Championship Standing: =9th

Sky's schedule for the German GP weekend.

Simon challenges seb to a basketball match.

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Forza Fernando !

Thanks fatboy72, the letter was actually waiting on my doorstep when I got home! Oh well I suppose I can just about stomach a £1.50 price rise...

Yip we got the letter.

Ours is going up by £3.50 or something.

we have everything Bar the Movies and Porn.



(I refuse to pay for porn unless it's really good )

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"I thought I'd get your theories, mock them, then embrace my own. The usual."

Seconded....

I agree with both arguments so I've decided to break it down:

Commentary - close one but brundles experience and insight just edges it.

Pre-race coverage - BBC wins. Entertaining features and ebthusiastic presenters. Sky is a little "by the numbers" and too much technical stuff. I want them to build tension for the race not bombard me with facts. Stuff like jenson and Lewis being presenters is awesome.

Post race - sky are the better at disecting a result but BBC seem to get better interviews and the forum is always very watchable. A more relaxed and informal setting to talk to people makes foe a great wind down from a tense race.

Extra stuff - BBC website and iplayer can't match a dedicated channel. Although a little sparse the season reviews and gp2 coverage is amazing to have.

Presenters - BBC wins for the fact that Jake holds it all together better than lazenby. Can't fault Skys aquisitions though, particularly Herbert who is insightful and fun.


Result - BBC 3 sky 2

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Ready player one...

+1

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Proud Supporter Of Nico Hulkenberg............

Georgie + Nat

Do these two have Pre-Sky F1 history?

Heard Georgie is being Nats Bridesmaid this weekend. Not something you would normally ask someone you have worked with 6 months to do.

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"I thought I'd get your theories, mock them, then embrace my own. The usual."

They went to school together and have been friends ever since.

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www.gawne.co.uk <-My website

Cheers maybe not such a coincidence they ended up working together.

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"I thought I'd get your theories, mock them, then embrace my own. The usual."

Natalie Pinkham did the pitlane coverage for BBC R5 last year - not bad, bearing in mind she's a presenter moving into F1, as opposed to an F1 who moved into presenting (a la' Lee McKenzie)