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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:30 pm 
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Massa may not be the one of the best drivers out there, But I don't think he's far off the top 10 at all. He's showing he still has real pace. I find it a shame Williams are wanting other drivers. I still think he's a safer option than any they appear to be considering.


I think it is money related. Massa wants more than they are willing to pay.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:32 pm 
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That's why Mercedes would love to swap Hamilton with Max.

Terrible error from Hamilton actually embarrassing for the sport.


I can't believe Vettel lost to him either


Seb did very well to push him so close the Mercedes is still the best car. I think Seb would be champion if he didn't have that ridiculous run of bad luck.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:32 pm 
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What a coincidence Hamilton crashed after wrapping the title! Don't think he let his guard down.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:34 pm 
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That's why Mercedes would love to swap Hamilton with Max.

Terrible error from Hamilton actually embarrassing for the sport.


Yeah, let’s get rid of the world champion because he made one mistake!!


He doesn't make lots of mistakes but you would never see a young hungry Max do that.

Anyway Hamilton officially out of qualifying :D


Never...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:34 pm 
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MasterRacer wrote:
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That's why Mercedes would love to swap Hamilton with Max.

Terrible error from Hamilton actually embarrassing for the sport.


Yeah, let’s get rid of the world champion because he made one mistake!!


He doesn't make lots of mistakes but you would never see a young hungry Max do that.

Anyway Hamilton officially out of qualifying :D


Verstappen span out at Austria this year during qualifying. He admitted it was his fault.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:34 pm 
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MasterRacer wrote:
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That's why Mercedes would love to swap Hamilton with Max.

Terrible error from Hamilton actually embarrassing for the sport.


Yeah, let’s get rid of the world champion because he made one mistake!!


He doesn't make lots of mistakes but you would never see a young hungry Max do that.

Anyway Hamilton officially out of qualifying :D


Ignore the obvious trolling. This chap is pining after Verstappen like Herbert from 'Family Guy' pines after Chris.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:36 pm 
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BMWSauber84 wrote:

Ignore the obvious trolling. This chap is pining after Verstappen like Herbert from 'Family Guy' pines after Chris.


Is Master a Verstappen fan now? Jumped ship from Seb?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:36 pm 
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MasterRacer wrote:
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MasterRacer wrote:
That's why Mercedes would love to swap Hamilton with Max.

Terrible error from Hamilton actually embarrassing for the sport.


Yeah, let’s get rid of the world champion because he made one mistake!!


He doesn't make lots of mistakes but you would never see a young hungry Max do that.

Anyway Hamilton officially out of qualifying :D


Ignore the obvious trolling. This chap is pining after Verstappen like Herbert from 'Family Guy' pines after Chris.


I'm not even a Max Verstappen fan. I just made the point yesterday that Mercedes would love to make that swap. And I used today's mistake by Hamilton to emphasise the point that he is now getting older and is no longer the future.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:37 pm 
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lamo wrote:
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Ignore the obvious trolling. This chap is pining after Verstappen like Herbert from 'Family Guy' pines after Chris.


Is Master a Verstappen fan now? Jumped ship from Seb?


Exactly, no I'm not.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:40 pm 
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A Ferrari 1-2 is on the cards here if Kimi doesn't fluff his Q3.


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Sainz is much quicker than hulkenberg at the moment 😮


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:41 pm 
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MasterRacer wrote:
BMWSauber84 wrote:
MasterRacer wrote:
Syholl wrote:
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That's why Mercedes would love to swap Hamilton with Max.

Terrible error from Hamilton actually embarrassing for the sport.


Yeah, let’s get rid of the world champion because he made one mistake!!


He doesn't make lots of mistakes but you would never see a young hungry Max do that.

Anyway Hamilton officially out of qualifying :D


Ignore the obvious trolling. This chap is pining after Verstappen like Herbert from 'Family Guy' pines after Chris.


I'm not even a Max Verstappen fan. I just made the point yesterday that Mercedes would love to make that swap. And I used today's mistake by Hamilton to emphasise the point that he is now getting older and is no longer the future.

I'm not what you'd call a Hamilton fan but this is just ridiculous. He's made one mistake and all of a sudden he's over the hill? He won the title barely two weeks ago: I didn't realise decline was that rapid


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:41 pm 
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lamo wrote:
BMWSauber84 wrote:

Ignore the obvious trolling. This chap is pining after Verstappen like Herbert from 'Family Guy' pines after Chris.


Is Master a Verstappen fan now? Jumped ship from Seb?


He'll be one of those that backs whatever non Hamilton driver is doing best. Tedious forum spammers are ten a penny.


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Vandoorne quite a lot slower than Alonso at the moment


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:41 pm 
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Max and Lewis with Rolex deals?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:45 pm 
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Vandoorne quite a lot slower than Alonso at the moment



Yep and was the case throughout practice too.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:46 pm 
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Mercedes power is really untouchable in S3 so far...Even Massa has the 2nd fastest S3 of all.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:48 pm 
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Invade wrote:
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Vandoorne quite a lot slower than Alonso at the moment



Yep and was the case throughout practice too.




Honestly it's been the case for most of the year. Alonso has crushed him, let's just admit that.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:48 pm 
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Wow Seb!


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Invade wrote:
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Vandoorne quite a lot slower than Alonso at the moment



Yep and was the case throughout practice too.

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This is a tricky time for Vandoorne. He now has the same updates as Alonso. If he is well off the pace here, and in Abu Dhabi then he risks getting the Perez/Magnusson treatment.

I don't think it will come to that. But certainly 2018 is essential for him. An improved 2018 for Mclaren but with Vandoorne struggling would certainly end his Mclaren career.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:49 pm 
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Ocon out in q2 😮


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Alonso has been impressive all weekend and is showing the potential of the car. Now imagine it with the Renault engine.


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Invade wrote:
Alonso has been impressive all weekend and is showing the potential of the car. Now imagine it with the Renault engine.


Can’t wait to see what that car can do next year...


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:51 pm 
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It's good to see Fernando flying again.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:52 pm 
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Alonso is really incredible though, he is ahead of a Williams and both Force Indias at a power sensitive track like this. That guy is just...


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:55 pm 
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Syholl wrote:
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Alonso has been impressive all weekend and is showing the potential of the car. Now imagine it with the Renault engine.


Can’t wait to see what that car can do next year...


Yeah hopefully they can carry on and integrate that new power unit seamlessly. Alonso deserves a great car.


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To those that don't think Vandoorne has had a good season, what would a good season in this car look like for a rookie Vandoorne?


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A solid opener from Bottas but Vettel should be able to beat that time by 2-3 tenths.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:00 pm 
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Ferrari don't go full engine beans until the 2nd run in Q3, Vettel pole here it looks like

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To those that don't think Vandoorne has had a good season, what would a good season in this car look like for a rookie Vandoorne?



Lewis had Alonso as a team mate when he was a rookie, and he regularly out performed him. Stoffel can’t keep up with Alonso...


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:01 pm 
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It's really amazing how Vettel keeps peeping Bottas seemingly all year. No, in fact it is getting pretty laughable. He just has that little bit extra and always finds it!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:03 pm 
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Max ahead of Ricc again. Color me surprised.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:04 pm 
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Syholl wrote:
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To those that don't think Vandoorne has had a good season, what would a good season in this car look like for a rookie Vandoorne?



Lewis had Alonso as a team mate when he was a rookie, and he regularly out performed him. Stoffel can’t keep up with Alonso...


It would be unfair to make the Hamilton comparison with every rookie. But there is no hiding from the fact that Stoffel is the best prepared and most experienced F1 rookie in quite some time. He should be doing better.

The recent Mclaren improvement has exposed his shortfalls more and more.


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As much as the crowd cheered when Lewis crashed, it has really put a dampener on Q3 without him there. Vettel should easily get pole now....


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I'm impressed that Alonso still maintains such ferocious motivation even at this stage. He'll be even hungrier without GP2 engines.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:06 pm 
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Syholl wrote:
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To those that don't think Vandoorne has had a good season, what would a good season in this car look like for a rookie Vandoorne?



Lewis had Alonso as a team mate when he was a rookie, and he regularly out performed him. Stoffel can’t keep up with Alonso...


I'm asking about a good season rather than a once in a generation rookie season.


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rain falling, so order looking less likely to change


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BMWSauber84 wrote:
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To those that don't think Vandoorne has had a good season, what would a good season in this car look like for a rookie Vandoorne?



Lewis had Alonso as a team mate when he was a rookie, and he regularly out performed him. Stoffel can’t keep up with Alonso...


It would be unfair to make the Hamilton comparison with every rookie. But there is no hiding from the fact that Stoffel is the best prepared and most experienced F1 rookie in quite some time. He should be doing better.

The recent Mclaren improvement has exposed his shortfalls more and more.


I think Vandoorne is having a perfectly reasonable looking debut season. It's very hard to look anything special against Alonso.


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Wow, he stepped up!!!


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I stand corrected. Great lap by Bottas!


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