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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:26 pm 
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Hyper grippy tires, but the trade-off is limited lifespan (even less than with the Ultras).

At several tracks, the Pole Position fight will force several teams to roll the dice with them. But they will dictate a pit stop not long after the race starts (7-9 laps?). The choice might not make much sense in some cases.

Some drivers seem to get more life from the qualy tires than others. Let the debate begin...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:35 pm 
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Do they not start the race on their Q2 tyres though?


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SILVAF0XX wrote:
Do they not start the race on their Q2 tyres though?

Just part of the equation. Supposition is that 3 teams will contend this year. (Merc, Ferrari, RBR).. If a team anticipates qualifying in the 1st two rows covered by .2 tenths or less, would you opt to burn some hypers in Q2 to ensure you have them for the start of the race? And how long would they last with 3 laps already used? And which driver will make the remaining tread last the longest?

Further, it the top three hold true to form, that will leave only 4 slots in Q3 for the mid-pack teams to compete for in Q2. So, if Force India picks hypers in Q2, will that force Renault, McLaren, STR, ? to also use them to chance getting into Q3? Then what happens in the race?

I think the hyper-soft tires will pose some new conundrums for the teams to ponder.

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Cars that have been good on tyres recently are Force India,Ferrari and McLaren. McLaren ordered the most hypers for the test so should have plenty of data too but they've got a new suspension so maybe they'll suffer a bit, who knows.

Seb had plenty of tyre life left after his race stint, he went 2s quicker on his last lap but that was on mediums but still quite impressive tyre wise so they could be good again.

Bottas did admit Mercedes suffered more wear than they'd like on the softer compounds, it's a bit of a Mercedes trait seemingly. They'll be glad we aren't seeing the hypers until Canada I believe.

Force India will bring practically a new car so God knows how that'll go but they've been good on them for a number of years now, at least since 2013 I can remember Di Resta doing longer than normal stints, so I think that'll continue.

When the hypers are in use I expect most teams to use them as the delta is quite large depending on track, 0.7-1.2s I think they said. Maybe Mercedes could afford to swerve them and still qualify high enough to not get burned in traffic but no-one else will with a delta that big. (I'm hoping the gap between the top 3 and whoever is 4th will be less than 1.2s).

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:47 pm 
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I think Ferrari will be excellent on the hypersoft tyres, but unfortunately I don't think they will be used very often.


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KingVoid wrote:
I think Ferrari will be excellent on the hypersoft tyres, but unfortunately I don't think they will be used very often.

I heard they are calling it the street circuit tyre.

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pokerman wrote:
KingVoid wrote:
I think Ferrari will be excellent on the hypersoft tyres, but unfortunately I don't think they will be used very often.

I heard they are calling it the street circuit tyre.


Hs should have been introduced in Baku instead of canada imo. Some serious gains could have been highlighted there.

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slightly off-topic, but is it still necessary for Pirelli to have hard tyres? which circuit actually requires hard tyres this year?

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2fast wrote:
slightly off-topic, but is it still necessary for Pirelli to have hard tyres? which circuit actually requires hard tyres this year?

I heard that the hard tyres are just back up in case they encounter any problems with serious wear on the softer tyres.

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PĂ©rez for obvious reasons... ;)


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Lotus49 wrote:
They'll be glad we aren't seeing the hypers until Canada I believe.

I'm surprised they wouldn't bring them out at Monaco? It has infamously low tyre wear.


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j man wrote:
Lotus49 wrote:
They'll be glad we aren't seeing the hypers until Canada I believe.

I'm surprised they wouldn't bring them out at Monaco? It has infamously low tyre wear.

They will. They have just selected/announced the Canada tyres before Monaco because it is outside Europe.


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