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Author:  Tufty [ Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:31 am ]
Post subject:  Superstition in motorsport

While we wait for Melbourne in, what, a week and a half? Let's have a look more broadly across motorsport at the various superstitions that drivers, teams and even organisers have, and their implications.

Alex Wurz used to wear odd shoes since he first did so when he took his first win in the lower formulae after a prank.

Damon Hill was vehemently anti-superstition, so when someone pointed out he always got into the car from the same side he got in from the other side at the next race just to prove it meant nothing. He had a terrible race, and decided never to get in from that side again.

What other examples are there?

Author:  Blake [ Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Superstition in motorsport

In a more general sense,at least from a US point of view, the color green and #13 are considered unlucky on a race car... sorry fans of BRG.
;)

Author:  Jezza13 [ Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Superstition in motorsport

I've personally avoided believing in superstitions. Always thought they'd bring me bad luck if I did.

Senna always had the last pull of his belts, though i'm not sure if it was a superstition or just so he was sure they were to his liking.

Alan Jones had a pair of red undies he wore for luck.

Author:  Zoue [ Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:21 am ]
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I read that Vettel puts a St Christopher medallion, given to him by his grandmother, under his laces

and Coulthard was also a lucky underpant fan. So much so that the pair he always wore became, ahem, unwearable over the decade or so he had them, as he himself admitted!

Author:  MB-BOB [ Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:39 am ]
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Well, I always get in my car from the same side, and I bet everyone else does, too (whether right or left).

I recall that Ayrton Senna had a worn-out pair of "lucky gloves" that he wore in every race. I seem to recall he had several other superstitions, but can't remember them atm.

Author:  MB-BOB [ Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Superstition in motorsport

Michael Schumacher had several superstitions, among them a request to drive in odd-numbered cars... He won all his titles with odd numbers — five as #1 and once each with #3 and #5. Upon his return to F1 in 2010, he got FIA to aprove his request to swap numbers with teammate Rosberg, winding up with #3.

Also, his wife gave him a ceramic amulet as a lucky charm, which he wore at every track while racing for Ferrari... to the point of having a crew member retrieve it from the Bahrain hotel room where he left it in 2004. He credited the amulet in part for subsequently winning that race.

Author:  mds [ Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Superstition in motorsport

Jezza13 wrote:
I've personally avoided believing in superstitions. Always thought they'd bring me bad luck if I did.


:lol:

Author:  Mayhem [ Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Superstition in motorsport

Sergio perez has a picture of the pope john paul 2nd on his dash for good luck

Here's a few from a previos article on the topic
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2017/8/six-of-the-best---driver-superstitions-and-good-luck-charms.html

Author:  Banana Man [ Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Superstition in motorsport

MB-BOB wrote:
Michael Schumacher had several superstitions, among them a request to drive in odd-numbered cars... He won all his titles with odd numbers — five as #1 and once each with #3 and #5. Upon his return to F1 in 2010, he got FIA to aprove his request to swap numbers with teammate Rosberg, winding up with #3.

Also, his wife gave him a ceramic amulet as a lucky charm, which he wore at every track while racing for Ferrari... to the point of having a crew member retrieve it from the Bahrain hotel room where he left it in 2004. He credited the amulet in part for subsequently winning that race.


Don't think you need FIA approval for that, back then you could allocate the 2 numbers as you saw fit I believe.

Author:  Siao7 [ Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Superstition in motorsport

Banana Man wrote:
MB-BOB wrote:
Michael Schumacher had several superstitions, among them a request to drive in odd-numbered cars... He won all his titles with odd numbers — five as #1 and once each with #3 and #5. Upon his return to F1 in 2010, he got FIA to aprove his request to swap numbers with teammate Rosberg, winding up with #3.

Also, his wife gave him a ceramic amulet as a lucky charm, which he wore at every track while racing for Ferrari... to the point of having a crew member retrieve it from the Bahrain hotel room where he left it in 2004. He credited the amulet in part for subsequently winning that race.


Don't think you need FIA approval for that, back then you could allocate the 2 numbers as you saw fit I believe.


Apart from Rosberg agreeing to it, the FIA agreed to the number swap back then;

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motor ... -luck.html

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/156183/1/ ... ted-by-fia

Author:  olly-44 [ Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Superstition in motorsport

I know that Grosjean in 2012 had a superstition to crash on lap one.

He gave it up the next season as he concluded it brought him no positive result. But has unfortunately developed a new superstition of complaining about the brakes.

Author:  jiminwatford [ Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Superstition in motorsport

Not superstition as such but when asked in 1993 whether he would like 0 or 2 on his car Alain Prost replied 'who wants to be a zero?'

Author:  Flash2k11 [ Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:18 pm ]
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Blake wrote:
In a more general sense,at least from a US point of view, the color green and #13 are considered unlucky on a race car... sorry fans of BRG.
;)


13 is meant to be unlucky over here too; I chose it as my shirt number in both Rugby and Football number as a consequence. Interested to know how the green car thing came about? Most of these superstitions have some sort of good story as a root of them. Never got the love for BRG either really, its a bloody dull colour on most vehicles... reminds me of a leather chair in some posh men's club rather than a fast racing machine.

Author:  Banana Man [ Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Superstition in motorsport

Siao7 wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
MB-BOB wrote:
Michael Schumacher had several superstitions, among them a request to drive in odd-numbered cars... He won all his titles with odd numbers — five as #1 and once each with #3 and #5. Upon his return to F1 in 2010, he got FIA to aprove his request to swap numbers with teammate Rosberg, winding up with #3.

Also, his wife gave him a ceramic amulet as a lucky charm, which he wore at every track while racing for Ferrari... to the point of having a crew member retrieve it from the Bahrain hotel room where he left it in 2004. He credited the amulet in part for subsequently winning that race.


Don't think you need FIA approval for that, back then you could allocate the 2 numbers as you saw fit I believe.


Apart from Rosberg agreeing to it, the FIA agreed to the number swap back then;

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motor ... -luck.html

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/156183/1/ ... ted-by-fia


Fair enough, although it's not really much of a swap as neither driver had yet driven a race for the team.

Author:  Pole2Win [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Superstition in motorsport

F1 has not had the #13 in a car for a while. In the old system the cars skipped it.

After they changed to the new system, no one has picked #2, which has a huge stigma associated with it in the series.

The ones I currently know about are Ford fielding four GTLMs at Le Mans with numbers ranging from 66-69 (years of their overall wins) and BMW fielding #24 and #25 in the IMSA series due to being the numbers they've always used and won with all the way back to the 1975 Batmobile. More marketing than superstition but still cool.

Author:  P-F1 Mod [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Superstition in motorsport

Maldonado had 13, and Vandoorne has 2

Author:  Pole2Win [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Superstition in motorsport

P-F1 Mod wrote:
Maldonado had 13, and Vandoorne has 2


Thanks.

I knew someone had #13 but didn't remember who. Turns out it was someone the number was suitable for! :D

Author:  Siao7 [ Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Superstition in motorsport

Banana Man wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
MB-BOB wrote:
Michael Schumacher had several superstitions, among them a request to drive in odd-numbered cars... He won all his titles with odd numbers — five as #1 and once each with #3 and #5. Upon his return to F1 in 2010, he got FIA to aprove his request to swap numbers with teammate Rosberg, winding up with #3.

Also, his wife gave him a ceramic amulet as a lucky charm, which he wore at every track while racing for Ferrari... to the point of having a crew member retrieve it from the Bahrain hotel room where he left it in 2004. He credited the amulet in part for subsequently winning that race.


Don't think you need FIA approval for that, back then you could allocate the 2 numbers as you saw fit I believe.


Apart from Rosberg agreeing to it, the FIA agreed to the number swap back then;

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motor ... -luck.html

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/156183/1/ ... ted-by-fia


Fair enough, although it's not really much of a swap as neither driver had yet driven a race for the team.


Agreed, not much of a swap before the season started. It was only after 2014 that they reinstated the permanent driver numbers, wasn't it? In 2010 they would carry their finishing position numbers from 2009. But with so many changes in 2010, the reigning champions not being there anymore and more teams joining, the numbers were shuffled somewhat. So I guess if they wanted to swap the driver numbers, they'd have to ask the FIA's permission or something.

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