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According to Jo Saward's latest blog, the new deal will be announced at Silverstone.

Rumours are afloat that Alonso made one last attempt to rejoin Ferrari, after being turned down it's looking like he may now be heading to Inycars with McLaren.

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Good.

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This is interesting. Do you have a link?

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I can't read the full article as it's behind a pay wall but does that say anything about Alonso approaching Ferrari? Or is it just about the McLaren to IndyCar story?

Thank you. I can't read it as it wants me to register...

No me neither, as for approaching Ferrari that was another story.

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No I couldn't read it all for the same reason.

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The part that I can read doesn't mention his attempt to rejoin Ferrari

No that was a different article, I just pieced the 2 together as in he couldn't get a winning car so it looks like he's going to Indycar.

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Found some relevant articles

https://www.wheels24.co.za/FormulaOne/a ... o-20180525

http://www.f1i.com/news/304706-alonso-i ... rrari.html

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Ah, thank you, I did not see this at all.

Then there was another article I saw with Ferrari saying they have no interest in Alonso and are happy with the drivers they have.

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Honestly, I am skeptical about this secret meeting. Why would Ferrari do this? If it happened, it would imply a massive lost in faith in Vettel - in which case I'd rather think they would go for Ricciardo or Hamilton. So, not a very plausible story at all.

Well it's saying that Ferrari were approached not the other way round, teams may entertain enquiries out of politeness?

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Can someone who knows about indy please comment on- how or why Mclaren can get assistance for an indy team?
Last year there was a Honda tie in but what is there now?

Would it be a straight pay for car-drive-information as they 'sublet' from another team, or can they buy a chassis complete with aero and engine?

I read he´s asking for astronomical salary.

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Only from Horner

yeah, and Horner did say "i'd imagine," or words to that effect. So basically guesswork or Horner trying to be deliberately mischievous

True and I think it indeed was a Horner interview I was thinking of.

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Not an Indy expert here, but I do follow the series.

First off: everyone buys the chassis complete with aero and engine. IndyCar is a single-build series - you pick your engine supplier, and they deliver you an engine to go with your spec chassis, all of which are the same this year (in the last few years your aero kit differed by engine, but not any more).

The work the team does is in setting up the car and adjusting it, and in that regard I know there are technical partnerships between teams already. I would imagine that's the sort of help McLaren would be getting, set up notes and a body of already existing expertise on the chassis setup, tracks, etc.

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2 different rumours are afloat.

One about a secret meeting with Ferrari that comes from the hysterically bad Diario Gol that doesn't even say they said no. (As if they even had a secret meeting that they then told a known junk tabloid about)

The second rumour is about going to IndyCar with McLaren which has surfaced in many publications from time to time since he was at the 500 last year.


Awful nice of you to lump them together into one narrative and story though and try to pass it off as one connected rumour doing the rounds.

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Thanks.
So its not an 'if they can get' problem, they literally turn up and buy one like a loaf of bread? What about entry then?
Is that just 'turn up and drive', and if you beat X time you are in? or do they have to negotiate a space in the pit etc

Ricciardo looks good in either Red or Silver:


Source - www.imgur.com

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with mclaren in detroit setting things up for indy car 2019, i wonder if rossi is in the mix for that ride ? would really like to see rossi in a haas, or renault, or force india...

Is it too crazy to imagine Hamilton dawdling for so long over the Merc contract that they could opt with Ricciardo instead in a shock deal, leaving Hamilton out to dry?

Nah they're more than happy with what they've got, they both are, it'll just be the annoying smaller details I'm sure like sponsor appearances,bonuses,image rights etc..

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"Clark came through at the end of the first lap so far ahead that we in the pits were convinced that the rest of the field must have been wiped out in an accident."
-Eddie Dennis, describing the dominance of Jim Clark in the Lotus 49 at Spa 1967

The theory I had was that Hamilton will end up replacing Raikkonen at Ferrari and that this deal is the reason that the contract with Mercedes hasn't happened yet. As far as Mercedes jumping the gun; I doubt it. Mercedes are a large soulless corporation. They won't stop doing something that is working so well.

While this is a fanciful notion, Mercedes cannot wait around forever. But this doesn't feel like Hamilton will leave the team high and dry.

I'm sure a deal will be announced soon. Plus Redbull are making more and more positive noises about Ricciardo. After Monaco they should be shoving a massive contract under Daniel's nose. I suspect they will.

If Kimi does retire, LeClerk may well make a strong enough case to jump into that seat. If not, Perez or Hulkenberg would be decent enough second drivers.

I do not think Hamilton has been in any serious discussions with Ferrari. The banter with Hamilton saying "He has a veto so that wouldn't happen" was genuine, not some bizarre role-playing. A move takes a lot of negotiation and that has not been happening.

It's possible he has and it's possible there has been negotiation. The press won't always know if there's been meetings or conference calls. Sometimes it happens without leaks.

Lewis has said in the past he wants to drive for Ferrari before he retires. It would seem that move will come now or at the end of his next contract. I can't see him staying in F1 for another 5 years, he seems bored and has other ambitions.

The reason I can't see it happening is even Ferrari would be unlikely to dish out massive salaries to Vettel and Hamilton concurrently.

The latter.

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It has a nice logic to it though.

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That might risk Hamilton turning up at Ferrari plus I'm not convinced they would view Ricciardo as being as good as Hamilton, remember they no longer have the best car.

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Nothing Diario Gol writes has any logic to it. I swear people read "Spanish Press" and assume they've got a direct line to Alonso.

Like the Star or the Mail have the inside scoop on all things Lewis because they're British.

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Re the bolded: That is my personal theory, based on nothing, as to why Hamilton hasn't signed yet. If he thinks the Merc can't deliver him a 5th WDC to beat Vettel's 4, he might not sign.

Perhaps a complication for Hamilton and Mercedes is.... how long does Hamilton want to stay in F1? How long does he commit for, and if it is not for that long do Mercedes need to start looking for their next hero?

God, I wish Merc would just say chocolate fudge cake it and sign Alonso alongside Hamilton. Surely worth it for the exposure.

I'd love that if - especially - Alonso decided to call it a day next year, then let him have his last year next to Lewis in a competitive car. With Vettel in another competitive car up there in the mix.

What a cracker that would be!