lamo wrote:
My point is - I don't get which part of Vettel's stint was the impressive bit, if he done the 39 laps and only had a 1 or 1.2 second lap drop off over that distance then I would say yes that is good driving. Only 3 drivers took the softs around 30 laps and Hamilton had about a 0.7 drop off at that phase, Vettel about 1 second and K-mag seemed about 1 second too. That is expected and all pretty similar.
Again that's not correct.
- Vettel had about .65s drop-off around 30 laps.
- Magnussen had about 1.4s drop-off after 29 laps.
So he had MUCH better drop-off than Magnussen. He also had much better drop-off than Sainz, who was already dropping off 1.5s by the time he had 25 laps on these tyres, which went to 2.5s by the time he had 30s on them. And all that during a stint in which Vettel knew he would have to go much longer than anyone, and much longer than Pirelli recommended.
As late as lap 52, so 33 laps into that stint, he still had only .7s drop-off.
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However, at 34 laps + Vettel had a 1.5 second drop off and 36/37+ laps more like 2 seconds drop off. Is that impressive?
But your numbers are off... all of them. At 36 laps he had 1.082s drop-off. At 37, 1.2s. After that he drives tactical, deploying his hybrid power on straights in order to defend. Defense over lap time at that point.
So that's what we have.
After 33 laps, .7s drop-off
After 36 laps, still only a second
After 37 laps, 1.2s
All of these are considerably better than Magnussen at 29 laps (1.4s) and Sainz at 25 laps (1.5s) or 29 laps (2.5s!).
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At I genuinely do not know, nobody knows that is why its hard to call it impressive. He was losing loads of time and we haven't seem somebody take these that far to know how good that performance was.
OK so you state we cannot know how good the performance was but earlier you had no issues saying:
- he didn't do a good job in keeping them alive?
- "Ferrari was poor on its tyres in
both stints" - when in fact compared to the data we have (Sainz, Magnussen) it actually did a whole lot better in the second?
- "Vettel's times dropped off slightly earlier than the tyres were expected to go" - when in fact you literally say Magnussen had normal drop-off after 30 laps and I demonstrate Vettel's drop-off after 30 laps was better than Magnussen's (after 29) by 7 tenths?