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Yes, always insightful and interesting 12%  12%  [ 6 ]
His opinion is as valid as anyone's 14%  14%  [ 7 ]
Couldn't care less what he says 64%  64%  [ 32 ]
Jacques who? 10%  10%  [ 5 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:06 pm 
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Just curious.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:08 pm 
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I care as much as I do about what Rosberg has to say, not at all!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:13 pm 
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I'd add "with a pinch of salt".

Surely he has stuff to say, how relevant god knows. But he probably knows a lot more than the random viewers


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:17 pm 
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I think "care" is a bit strong. But I don't object to it. Sometimes I agree, sometimes not. But always interesting to read what others have to say


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:20 pm 
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Political correctness says my response should be that his opinion is as valid as anybody else's. But honestly, he comes out with some complete nonsense so I do tend to pay less attention to what he says because of that.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:41 pm 
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I don't care about his opinions but I wish he could articulate them without resorting to lies.

"Last time we saw Kubics in F1 he was barely beating Petrov" etc


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:17 pm 
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mikeyg123 wrote:
"Last time we saw Kubics in F1 he was barely beating Petrov" etc


I missed that one!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:39 pm 
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My problem with JV is that he never has anything positive to say. His contributions tend to be purely criticism of other drivers. This is someone who raced in F1 himself and in fact won a championship in F1. You'd think he'd have some form of positive contribution to make but all he does is vent his bitterness and negativity. It's sad really and perhaps it's somewhat of a microcosm of a larger issue with F1. There is a selfishness to many of the people who get involved in the sport. They are all in it for themselves with little regard for what's best for the sport.


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My problem with JV is that he never has anything positive to say. His contributions tend to be purely criticism of other drivers. This is someone who raced in F1 himself and in fact won a championship in F1. You'd think he'd have some form of positive contribution to make but all he does is vent his bitterness and negativity. It's sad really and perhaps it's somewhat of a microcosm of a larger issue with F1. There is a selfishness to many of the people who get involved in the sport. They are all in it for themselves with little regard for what's best for the sport.

Exactly and it seems that he basically revels in being controversial.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:27 pm 
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His constant negativity does seem to reflect him as a person. Can't imagine it's easy for a guy to come to terms with the fact that he will never grow out of his fathers shadow in the sport in most peoples eyes, despite being more succesful at it. He made a few bad choices in his time in F1 too and I bet a lot of that still smarts.

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Nope. I'm pretty sure 90% of what he says is purely intended to stir the pot. I ignore him.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:56 pm 
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I put Villeneuve in that bracket of outspoken drivers who generally talk nonsense about racing long after they've left F1 - this includes such luminaries as Stewart and Moss. That's not to deny their achievements while they raced and, in Stewart's case, while he managed an F1 team with his son, but the landscape in every respect changes so much in a few years that their insights are more or less irrelevant.
Back to Villeneuve, I agree with Exediron that a lot of what he says is just to stir things up. That's always been his style and I suspect that's why "journalists" still ask his opinion.


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I've been sick of him for a long time.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:35 am 
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Like a broken clock, he's right about one time out of twelve.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:47 am 
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He wouldn't be interviewed if the press does not like him. So, first, it's down to press. Then, he has his opinion. That is fine. It's not that his opinion is always wrong. Sometimes it might be, but often he says things that other dare not to.

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Lt. Drebin wrote:
He wouldn't be interviewed if the press does not like him. So, first, it's down to press. Then, he has his opinion. That is fine. It's not that his opinion is always wrong. Sometimes it might be, but often he says things that other dare not to.


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Glad I'm not alone anymore to say yes. I don't know how much Villeneuve's opinion is aired in the UK anymore, but I always found his interviews in French very interesting and often somewhat different to what he had to say in English, or what seemed to be concensus in the English-speaking media.

Given that I don't particularly like the direction F1 has taken (i.e. more spectacle and less F1), perhaps he sometimes reflects my feelings more. But it is clear from interviews with current drivers, that many lack a sense of history of their sport. Or understanding of it, judging by the enless discussions of what the rules mean.

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I'm not usually interested in what he says and not infrequently there does seem to be a component of stirring up trouble in his timing and words chosen -- although, for all I know, that could be partly a language issue, as my French isn't good enough to understand interviews in that language. That said, I don't discount everything he says out of hand, and he certainly has as much right to his opinion as anyone else. That comes somewhat between two poll options, so I voted for "couldn't care less", although that is somewhat more harsh than how I feel.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:48 am 
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Jacques Villeneuve is a jerk. And he has a very long history of shooting from the lip. Some of the stuff he says is crap, some is meant to stir the pot. But, and this is very important, he occasionally makes very profound and relevant statements.

IMO he was the first to come out and express concern about how today's drivers have little respect for each other, and that some dumb crashes are created by this mentality. So don't shut him out, or you are willingly allowing yourself to be controlled by censorship and propaganda.

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Blinky McSquinty wrote:
So don't shut him out, or you are willingly allowing yourself to be controlled by censorship and propaganda.

With all due respect, that's simply not true. I don't think JV's comments are worthless because someone told me to think that: I read what he says and I almost invariably consider it worthless (although sometimes I do think he's right, such as when he said Stroll wasn't ready for F1).

Considering how voraciously the F1 news sites report on his comments, I think listening to him is more likely to be what 'they' want you to do. For whatever reason, promoting anything negative about F1 is clearly a major agenda item for the F1 press.

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Blinky McSquinty wrote:
Jacques Villeneuve is a jerk. And he has a very long history of shooting from the lip. Some of the stuff he says is crap, some is meant to stir the pot. But, and this is very important, he occasionally makes very profound and relevant statements.

IMO he was the first to come out and express concern about how today's drivers have little respect for each other, and that some dumb crashes are created by this mentality. So don't shut him out, or you are willingly allowing yourself to be controlled by censorship and propaganda.

Yup me ignoring him (or as you put it shutting him out) because I've never liked him throughout his F1 days and comments since is clearly me being controlled by censorship and propaganda, there was me mistaking it as my opinion formed by my experience...


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:16 pm 
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HE is welcome to his opinion.


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You see it in many sports - former competitor turns pundit, repeatedly spouts controversial opinions. Do they do it to stay relevant or to drum up interest for their new media employers or is it actually what they think? Who knows?

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