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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:00 pm 
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I'm no expert either but could that (Kimi needing more fuel saving than his team mate) be linked to the wrong turn Ferrari presumably made on Saturday with Kimi's setup? I mean, if his car carries more drag because of setup, that would have a detrimental effect on his fuel consumption, right?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:44 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:55 pm 
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Covalent wrote:
https://youtu.be/o3h6A_uTGrc

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Nicole Kidman could not have possibly greeted Kimi any warmer than she did...
And Kimi was like thinking "I dont give a S*** woman, you better let my hand go".

Either he got struck by a "colpo di fulmine" (thunderbolt, love at 1st sight... I would have been in his stead :blush: ), or he`s really cold/cool as Ice Cream.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:31 pm 
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Fiki wrote:
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I wont panic until after China.
Why panic? What good will that do? :D
Well whenever Ive panicked the last two years Ferrari have announced that they are resigning him and his performances have improved ;).

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:02 am 
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So good to see you again Appletree, fingers crossed for a successful season for Kimi


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:37 am 
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KIMBO2 wrote:
So good to see you again Appletree, fingers crossed for a successful season for Kimi

Hi Kimbo! Nice to see you too! Lets see if we get this thread to fly again. It may be Kimis last season, so lets take everything out of it!

Khrm...lets look at the bright side here. Kimi didnt have one lousy point last year after the first race. Now he has twelve. Clear improvement! :D


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:40 pm 
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zoue wrote:
Yeah I have absolutely no knowledge on this whatsoever, but in my minds eye as a complete layman I'm imagining that pushing to stay close to someone and overcome all the turbulence etc is a lot more (fuel) demanding than cruising around. I can't really see how you can do the former while saving fuel!

I agree, the way Vettel pushed hanging on so close to Lewis can't be positive in any way for fuel consumption. I think Kimi having to save fuel could have had something to do with how the car was setup, just guessing though.


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Kimi of Arabia :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 9:23 am 
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Hoi Apple (I don't remember how to quote messages anymore) :D

Remember Wolfie :twisted:

Onneksi olkoon Kimi (ja Valtteri tietenkin) :thumbup:

Apple, you always know how to answer my weird questions, so here they come - bear in mind that the Russian GP was the first race in years:

1. Kimi was genuinely happy for Valtteri and congratulated him many times, whereas Vettel could congratulate Valtteri only in the backroom, but not before that. Was Vettel so angry for not winning the race?

2. What is going on between Kimi and Vettel? There was zero warmth or friendship between them, something has changed, since they used to be the best pals on the paddock, but what?

3. The commentators, (Brits or Americans), spoke in lenght about Ferrari's different strategies for Kimi and Vettel, pondering if Ferrari really will let Kimi pass when Vettel had his pitstop, wondering if Ferrari had miscalculated their strategy. Usually commentators only bash Kimi, never even making an effort to think further, but now they were clearly on Kimi's side and they believed Kimi was mistreated by Ferrari.... Why now??? They were silent during the years Ferrari clearly sabotaged Kimi's qualis and races, but now they seem to be absolutely certain. What am I missing? Is it based on real facts or a dislike of Vettel?

4. Where was Minttu? Isn't she usually in the garage following Kimi's races? Is her pregnancy so far that she couldn't travel to Russia?

Kudos to Putin and kudos to Russia for arranging a wonderful GP, it was awesome to see how Putin came to the back room and chatted with Kimi, presidents don't usually do these kind of things 8)

Oops and one more question: Has Lettuce (Grosjean) still not learned how not to crash into other cars, or was this a singular event? It felt so homey to watch the race, because Lettuce took himself and another one out during the first lap :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 12:11 pm 
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NCW wrote:
Hoi Apple (I don't remember how to quote messages anymore) :D

Remember Wolfie :twisted:

Onneksi olkoon Kimi (ja Valtteri tietenkin) :thumbup:

Apple, you always know how to answer my weird questions, so here they come - bear in mind that the Russian GP was the first race in years:

1. Kimi was genuinely happy for Valtteri and congratulated him many times, whereas Vettel could congratulate Valtteri only in the backroom, but not before that. Was Vettel so angry for not winning the race?

2. What is going on between Kimi and Vettel? There was zero warmth or friendship between them, something has changed, since they used to be the best pals on the paddock, but what?

3. The commentators, (Brits or Americans), spoke in lenght about Ferrari's different strategies for Kimi and Vettel, pondering if Ferrari really will let Kimi pass when Vettel had his pitstop, wondering if Ferrari had miscalculated their strategy. Usually commentators only bash Kimi, never even making an effort to think further, but now they were clearly on Kimi's side and they believed Kimi was mistreated by Ferrari.... Why now??? They were silent during the years Ferrari clearly sabotaged Kimi's qualis and races, but now they seem to be absolutely certain. What am I missing? Is it based on real facts or a dislike of Vettel?

4. Where was Minttu? Isn't she usually in the garage following Kimi's races? Is her pregnancy so far that she couldn't travel to Russia?

Kudos to Putin and kudos to Russia for arranging a wonderful GP, it was awesome to see how Putin came to the back room and chatted with Kimi, presidents don't usually do these kind of things 8)

Oops and one more question: Has Lettuce (Grosjean) still not learned how not to crash into other cars, or was this a singular event? It felt so homey to watch the race, because Lettuce took himself and another one out during the first lap :lol:


@NCW I ain't Holi Apple but you can think of me as Holy Brat-Man

1. I didn't see any difference in his body language when he congratulated Vatteri, it's the same for everyone. Vettel too was normal. The scene might have been different but Vatteri a bit like Kimi isn't very chatty so what Vettel to do?

2. The friendship is okay. You don't expect them to come together and do something cheesy on camera or... do you? Manly hugs everyone...

3. Did you listen to the commentary? They used Kimi as a guinea pig to test the tyres and then brought Vettel in but if you look at the race you'll realize - the only thing that could have worked was if Ferrari was close to Bottas - less than 2 seconds and then undercut him. What they did was fall back to around 5 seconds and maintained the gap. The moment Vettel started to close in on Bottas to perform the under cut Mercedes called Bottas in and Ferrari was left with no option but to either pit Vettel in or hope Vettel would put in some really fast laps and doesn't run into traffic while Bottas runs into traffic. Vettel was the one who encountered a bit of traffic instead and finally he was pitted but barely gained any advantage over Bottas apart from the tyre advantage.

4. I have no idea about this.

Putin is always there and the conversations with the drivers are always awkward. Yesterday was no different.

Oops one more answer - Romain is a much better driver now than he was earlier but at times desperation gets to you. It was his mistake but I would deem it as a racing incident and move on.


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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 6:51 pm 
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Hi wolfie! :D :D 8)

There is nothing holy in me ,dingbat,believe me :-P
So..here are my takes of the events..
1)Vettels former trainer was interviewed earlier this winter and he talked a lot about Vettels ,could it be said,
strong obsession to win. He kept it also as Vettel weak point. Sometimes it takes him to dark side.
I think it might have made him a bit angry at first,specially towards Massa,to which he showed his middle finger. By the time they were at the backroom,I think he was calm...but you know finns. They dont feel need to tell immiaditely what happened in the race,because they all were there. :D
2)Not so much joking pictures about Kimi and Vettel but they sure kept Gazzetto dello Sport magazines reporter on his toes, like twins who continue where the other one has stopped. Ferrari is competitive now. I think it will be seen later in the season . But for now, they are okay.
3)Well..weird pit stops for Kimi have probably made some reporters to ask why,as it has looked like Ferrari had shot themself on their foot. Which they did. But lets see ..Kimi looked unhappy, maybe because he was just third.. ;) but aldo he appears to be a bit jumpy about Ferraris tactics, as seen in Russia when he wasnt aware of positions on track. Problems with race engineer?
4) yeah..I think Minttu will have their daughter in any day now.

Putin is there always as our Bat told there, Bottas told him to build more hotels as he said hotels are full. Well, thats the only occasion they are full,I heard. Socchi olympic village is empty monument.
Lettuce..I had forgotten that nickname! He has had problems with modern cars , specially driving over the kerbs. Nowadays he doesnt drive over the ither cars,just pushes a little.


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Hi Wolfie! Happy to have you back. :D

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Yes Wolfie very glad to see u on here again after such a long time :D .

Thought Kimi had a pretty good weekend in Russia, hope its the start of good things to come 8) .


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NCW wrote:
1. Kimi was genuinely happy for Valtteri and congratulated him many times, whereas Vettel could congratulate Valtteri only in the backroom, but not before that. Was Vettel so angry for not winning the race?


You didn't watch when they got out of the cars? Because Vettel did go towards Bottas and looked pretty stoked for him, giving him an extra pat on the back while Bottas was on his way to his team members.

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@ Holy Brat-Man, thank you for your reply, it gave a lot of thinking. Having not followed F1 in four years and suddenly getting a strong urge to do that again, I'm as clueless as one can be, relying only on my supernatural skills to read bodylanguage :lol:

Last year I tried to be witty and knowledgable on facebook's Kimi-forum and wondered if Schumi was in the garage (people ranted about a failed pitstop), and people got absolutely furious at me. I didn't remember Schumi's accident, so there was a lot of apologizing, a lot. Shame on me :blush:

@ Hoi Apple :]

Ah, totally forgot about Vettel's competitive nature, Pärmäkoski has talked about it many times. That figures!

Gazzetto dello Sport?! Oi, this raises another question... You know me very well, is it safe to read the Italian magazines concerning Kimi or is your advice to avoid them?

Leo Turrini, has he changed his good picture of The Holy Drunk?

I wondered why Kimi wasn't even told about the others, maybe Ferrari has a strategy that Kimi is also made aware of... Kimi won't settle for driver #2, he will quit F1 if this is the case :(

It was so cool to see Putin directing his words to Kimi, and Kimi saying something about the good weather. Kimi talking about the weather LOL

Oii, Lettuce pushes a little nowadays, seems like he is finally on a learning curve :thumbup:

Apple, remember when we met for the first time, here in the Kimi-thread ages ago? We used to "tease" some Greek guy, who threw back our punches with a smile on his face... he could take our twisted humour :twisted:

@ Pole2Win, hi, are you The Brazilian? Nice to see you too :]

@ KIMBO2, I remember you, great to see you *hugs*

Kimi set the fastest lap in the race, so he is still the same. Especially if the reporters start mocking him again, then we know for sure that he is a force to be reckoned with!!!

@ mds

Keep in mind that I have supernational powers when it comes to reading body language, they kicked in immediately after the race. I have always defended Vettel to the very last, so it was surprising to get a bad feeling from his behaviour. Hopefully I'm wrong (which I never am ) - joking of course.

Oh Lord, next I'll be reading Ferrari's body language and get a lot of heat for that :lol:


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Ferrari publicly criticized Raikkonen on his poor qualifying performance. he improved. IMO he is on top of his game and fully motivated. he wasn't very pleasant after the race at Sochi, and it's because he's not happy with not winning. Let's not forget that the last time Ferrari has one of their drivers win the title it was Raikkonen.

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@ Pole2Win, hi, are you The Brazilian? Nice to see you too :]


The one and only! ;)

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So Kimi Raikkonen and Mintu had a baby girl today 'Rianna Angelia Milana'.


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