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A third DRS zone has been added for the Austrian Grand Prix. It will be between Turn 1 & Turn 3.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/third-drs-zone-added-for-austrian-gp-1047511/

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Another nightmare for McLaren incoming and with Alonso's current mood it's not going to be pretty on the radio either. FOM were up to their usual tricks with him yesterday, apparently they cut the words "about Grosjean" out of his radio outburst about his brakes and not caring too much.

What they broadcast..

ALO- I have no brakes,no tyres, we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much.


What was actually said...

Engineer- Fernando brakes are still a concern for us, Grosjean is 6s behind
ALO- Mate,I have no brakes,no tyres,we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much about Grosjean.


It is so disrespectful how FOM edit his messages to make it look like he randomly started whining about his situation and sounding like he wanted to quit when it was a response to an engineer about Grosjean closing in and his brake issue.

He should just refuse to speak English on the radio or anything FOM want him to do, this is the 3rd or 4th time they've stitched him up like this, it's ridiculous.

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Lotus49 wrote:
Another nightmare for McLaren incoming and with Alonso's current mood it's not going to be pretty on the radio either. FOM were up to their usual tricks with him yesterday, apparently they cut the words "about Grosjean" out of his radio outburst about his brakes and not caring too much.

What they broadcast..

ALO- I have no brakes,no tyres, we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much.


What was actually said...

Engineer- Fernando brakes are still a concern for us, Grosjean is 6s behind
ALO- Mate,I have no brakes,no tyres,we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much about Grosjean.


It is so disrespectful how FOM edit his messages to make it look like he randomly started whining about his situation and sounding like he wanted to quit when it was a response to an engineer about Grosjean closing in and his brake issue.

He should just refuse to speak English on the radio or anything FOM want him to do, this is the 3rd or 4th time they've stitched him up like this, it's ridiculous.


He was whining though, he even accused Vettel of hitting him when it was the other way round bit embarrassing for both Alonso and the FOM though!


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UnlikeUday wrote:
A third DRS zone has been added for the Austrian Grand Prix. It will be between Turn 1 & Turn 3.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/third-drs-zone-added-for-austrian-gp-1047511/

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Wait they for got a small section between turns 7-9 lol. So pretty much the entire track is drs zone just about. As short as this track is they might as well add more laps to the race.

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A third DRS zone has been added for the Austrian Grand Prix. It will be between Turn 1 & Turn 3.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/third-drs-zone-added-for-austrian-gp-1047511/

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Wait they for got a small section between turns 7-9 lol. So pretty much the entire track is drs zone just about. As short as this track is they might as well add more laps to the race.


The race is 71 laps long. You want it longer? :D

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With the pendulum between who is faster out of Mercedes and Ferrari swinging a different way each race, who is likely to be quicker here?

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With the pendulum between who is faster out of Mercedes and Ferrari swinging a different way each race, who is likely to be quicker here?

Probably Ferrari, although hard to say. Aside from Australia, Mercedes has only been decidedly quicker where the new tyre structure is used.

Most likely they'll be closely matched however, and it will come down to who performs best on the day. Which is how we want it, right?

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Lotus49 wrote:
Another nightmare for McLaren incoming and with Alonso's current mood it's not going to be pretty on the radio either. FOM were up to their usual tricks with him yesterday, apparently they cut the words "about Grosjean" out of his radio outburst about his brakes and not caring too much.

What they broadcast..

ALO- I have no brakes,no tyres, we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much.


What was actually said...

Engineer- Fernando brakes are still a concern for us, Grosjean is 6s behind
ALO- Mate,I have no brakes,no tyres,we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much about Grosjean.


It is so disrespectful how FOM edit his messages to make it look like he randomly started whining about his situation and sounding like he wanted to quit when it was a response to an engineer about Grosjean closing in and his brake issue.

He should just refuse to speak English on the radio or anything FOM want him to do, this is the 3rd or 4th time they've stitched him up like this, it's ridiculous.

Anytime Alonso, Hamilton or Vettel say something interesting on the radio, it will be broadcast. Hamilton's every complaint was broadcast in Bahrain and we all got the impression that Vettel was a hothead based on transmissions through the radio these last few years. It is not fair nor is it balanced for any of them but Alonso is not being treated worse.


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Lotus49 wrote:
Another nightmare for McLaren incoming and with Alonso's current mood it's not going to be pretty on the radio either. FOM were up to their usual tricks with him yesterday, apparently they cut the words "about Grosjean" out of his radio outburst about his brakes and not caring too much.

What they broadcast..

ALO- I have no brakes,no tyres, we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much.


What was actually said...

Engineer- Fernando brakes are still a concern for us, Grosjean is 6s behind
ALO- Mate,I have no brakes,no tyres,we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much about Grosjean.


It is so disrespectful how FOM edit his messages to make it look like he randomly started whining about his situation and sounding like he wanted to quit when it was a response to an engineer about Grosjean closing in and his brake issue.

He should just refuse to speak English on the radio or anything FOM want him to do, this is the 3rd or 4th time they've stitched him up like this, it's ridiculous.

Anytime Alonso, Hamilton or Vettel say something interesting on the radio, it will be broadcast. Hamilton's every complaint was broadcast in Bahrain and we all got the impression that Vettel was a hothead based on transmissions through the radio these last few years. It is not fair nor is it balanced for any of them but Alonso is not being treated worse.

That one is particularly bad though. Cutting off the engineer message to him and then the last part of Alonso's message makes it quite clear they are looking to take his words out of context and make them fit their narrative.

Disappointing I have to say, makes you wonder what else over the years has been misrepresented to sound more interesting.


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sandman1347 wrote:
Lotus49 wrote:
Another nightmare for McLaren incoming and with Alonso's current mood it's not going to be pretty on the radio either. FOM were up to their usual tricks with him yesterday, apparently they cut the words "about Grosjean" out of his radio outburst about his brakes and not caring too much.

What they broadcast..

ALO- I have no brakes,no tyres, we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much.


What was actually said...

Engineer- Fernando brakes are still a concern for us, Grosjean is 6s behind
ALO- Mate,I have no brakes,no tyres,we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much about Grosjean.


It is so disrespectful how FOM edit his messages to make it look like he randomly started whining about his situation and sounding like he wanted to quit when it was a response to an engineer about Grosjean closing in and his brake issue.

He should just refuse to speak English on the radio or anything FOM want him to do, this is the 3rd or 4th time they've stitched him up like this, it's ridiculous.

Anytime Alonso, Hamilton or Vettel say something interesting on the radio, it will be broadcast. Hamilton's every complaint was broadcast in Bahrain and we all got the impression that Vettel was a hothead based on transmissions through the radio these last few years. It is not fair nor is it balanced for any of them but Alonso is not being treated worse.


But in this case they've actually cut out part of what has been said which provides context for what he is saying. It's a bit different.


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UnlikeUday wrote:
Mayhem wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:
A third DRS zone has been added for the Austrian Grand Prix. It will be between Turn 1 & Turn 3.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/third-drs-zone-added-for-austrian-gp-1047511/

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Wait they for got a small section between turns 7-9 lol. So pretty much the entire track is drs zone just about. As short as this track is they might as well add more laps to the race.


The race is 71 laps long. You want it longer? :D


Its the quickest lap of the year with a lap time of barely over 1 minute.

Makes for a damn quick race.

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So it seems that Renault will be bringing their long-awaited upgraded MGU-K this weekend....but Red Bull won't be using it.

No idea what gains it's supposed to bring, other than reliability

http://www.f1i.com/news/308461-renault-introduces-new-spec-mgu-k-red-bull-takes-pass.html


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So it seems that Renault will be bringing their long-awaited upgraded MGU-K this weekend....but Red Bull won't be using it.

No idea what gains it's supposed to bring, other than reliability

http://www.f1i.com/news/308461-renault-introduces-new-spec-mgu-k-red-bull-takes-pass.html

Nice timing now Red Bull have signed with Honda, much as I want Honda to come good I also hope Red Bull regret leaving Renault after the way they've acted towards them (even though I do like Red Bull overall)


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Mayhem wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:
A third DRS zone has been added for the Austrian Grand Prix. It will be between Turn 1 & Turn 3.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/third-drs-zone-added-for-austrian-gp-1047511/

(picture of AUT GP layout with 3 DRS zones...)

Wait they for got a small section between turns 7-9 lol. So pretty much the entire track is drs zone just about. As short as this track is they might as well add more laps to the race.
Why not just spice things up altogether and have all the cars run the entire GP with the DRS flap constantly open?

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mikeyg123 wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
Lotus49 wrote:
Another nightmare for McLaren incoming and with Alonso's current mood it's not going to be pretty on the radio either. FOM were up to their usual tricks with him yesterday, apparently they cut the words "about Grosjean" out of his radio outburst about his brakes and not caring too much.

What they broadcast..

ALO- I have no brakes,no tyres, we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much.


What was actually said...

Engineer- Fernando brakes are still a concern for us, Grosjean is 6s behind
ALO- Mate,I have no brakes,no tyres,we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much about Grosjean.


It is so disrespectful how FOM edit his messages to make it look like he randomly started whining about his situation and sounding like he wanted to quit when it was a response to an engineer about Grosjean closing in and his brake issue.

He should just refuse to speak English on the radio or anything FOM want him to do, this is the 3rd or 4th time they've stitched him up like this, it's ridiculous.

Anytime Alonso, Hamilton or Vettel say something interesting on the radio, it will be broadcast. Hamilton's every complaint was broadcast in Bahrain and we all got the impression that Vettel was a hothead based on transmissions through the radio these last few years. It is not fair nor is it balanced for any of them but Alonso is not being treated worse.


But in this case they've actually cut out part of what has been said which provides context for what he is saying. It's a bit different.

You don't think they do that with the other two? We just hear them complain or lash out. We rarely get the larger context.


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sandman1347 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
Lotus49 wrote:
Another nightmare for McLaren incoming and with Alonso's current mood it's not going to be pretty on the radio either. FOM were up to their usual tricks with him yesterday, apparently they cut the words "about Grosjean" out of his radio outburst about his brakes and not caring too much.

What they broadcast..

ALO- I have no brakes,no tyres, we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much.


What was actually said...

Engineer- Fernando brakes are still a concern for us, Grosjean is 6s behind
ALO- Mate,I have no brakes,no tyres,we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much about Grosjean.


It is so disrespectful how FOM edit his messages to make it look like he randomly started whining about his situation and sounding like he wanted to quit when it was a response to an engineer about Grosjean closing in and his brake issue.

He should just refuse to speak English on the radio or anything FOM want him to do, this is the 3rd or 4th time they've stitched him up like this, it's ridiculous.

Anytime Alonso, Hamilton or Vettel say something interesting on the radio, it will be broadcast. Hamilton's every complaint was broadcast in Bahrain and we all got the impression that Vettel was a hothead based on transmissions through the radio these last few years. It is not fair nor is it balanced for any of them but Alonso is not being treated worse.


But in this case they've actually cut out part of what has been said which provides context for what he is saying. It's a bit different.

You don't think they do that with the other two? We just hear them complain or lash out. We rarely get the larger context.


Which makes me think: how did Lotus49 get the full quotation? Where can we hear these things? I'm not questioning his saying, I have a high regard for Lotus49, I'm just trying to find info like that.


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Siao7 wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
Lotus49 wrote:
Another nightmare for McLaren incoming and with Alonso's current mood it's not going to be pretty on the radio either. FOM were up to their usual tricks with him yesterday, apparently they cut the words "about Grosjean" out of his radio outburst about his brakes and not caring too much.

What they broadcast..

ALO- I have no brakes,no tyres, we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much.


What was actually said...

Engineer- Fernando brakes are still a concern for us, Grosjean is 6s behind
ALO- Mate,I have no brakes,no tyres,we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much about Grosjean.


It is so disrespectful how FOM edit his messages to make it look like he randomly started whining about his situation and sounding like he wanted to quit when it was a response to an engineer about Grosjean closing in and his brake issue.

He should just refuse to speak English on the radio or anything FOM want him to do, this is the 3rd or 4th time they've stitched him up like this, it's ridiculous.

Anytime Alonso, Hamilton or Vettel say something interesting on the radio, it will be broadcast. Hamilton's every complaint was broadcast in Bahrain and we all got the impression that Vettel was a hothead based on transmissions through the radio these last few years. It is not fair nor is it balanced for any of them but Alonso is not being treated worse.


But in this case they've actually cut out part of what has been said which provides context for what he is saying. It's a bit different.

You don't think they do that with the other two? We just hear them complain or lash out. We rarely get the larger context.


Which makes me think: how did Lotus49 get the full quotation? Where can we hear these things? I'm not questioning his saying, I have a high regard for Lotus49, I'm just trying to find info like that.



You Tube play radio comms during a race.

1:06 for Alonso's comment


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Siao7 wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
Lotus49 wrote:
Another nightmare for McLaren incoming and with Alonso's current mood it's not going to be pretty on the radio either. FOM were up to their usual tricks with him yesterday, apparently they cut the words "about Grosjean" out of his radio outburst about his brakes and not caring too much.

What they broadcast..

ALO- I have no brakes,no tyres, we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much.


What was actually said...

Engineer- Fernando brakes are still a concern for us, Grosjean is 6s behind
ALO- Mate,I have no brakes,no tyres,we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much about Grosjean.


It is so disrespectful how FOM edit his messages to make it look like he randomly started whining about his situation and sounding like he wanted to quit when it was a response to an engineer about Grosjean closing in and his brake issue.

He should just refuse to speak English on the radio or anything FOM want him to do, this is the 3rd or 4th time they've stitched him up like this, it's ridiculous.

Anytime Alonso, Hamilton or Vettel say something interesting on the radio, it will be broadcast. Hamilton's every complaint was broadcast in Bahrain and we all got the impression that Vettel was a hothead based on transmissions through the radio these last few years. It is not fair nor is it balanced for any of them but Alonso is not being treated worse.


But in this case they've actually cut out part of what has been said which provides context for what he is saying. It's a bit different.

You don't think they do that with the other two? We just hear them complain or lash out. We rarely get the larger context.


Which makes me think: how did Lotus49 get the full quotation? Where can we hear these things? I'm not questioning his saying, I have a high regard for Lotus49, I'm just trying to find info like that.


Sorry I should've put the video I saw in the link, it was even open in another tab so I could copy the bloody text and I still managed to forget. :blush:

4.51 for the start of the comments but the whole thing is interesting, he didn't seem too keen to box at lap 1 for that strategy switch but didn't put up much fight about it.



@Rockie yeah he was having a fair old whinge all day no doubt and I don't agree with his msg obviously but he got caught napping and spun trying to avoid Seb so he was probably feeling a bit embarrassed and thought Seb had taken a bit of an unnecessary risk for lap 1 by going around the outside, not that I agree but by the radio that's what it sounds like to me anyway.

@sandman They do like to have specific things they like to broadcast about certain drivers, Seb with blue flags and anything that makes him sound a bit entitled on track, Lewis with moaning about the car behaviour,tyres and questioning his strategy but with Alonso it's several times now they've deliberately edited comments to make it sound like something else and frame it in the worst possible way. That may be happening to the others at times as well but you'd think we'd hear about it like I heard this but you can't rule it out,true.

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Jezza13 wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
Anytime Alonso, Hamilton or Vettel say something interesting on the radio, it will be broadcast. Hamilton's every complaint was broadcast in Bahrain and we all got the impression that Vettel was a hothead based on transmissions through the radio these last few years. It is not fair nor is it balanced for any of them but Alonso is not being treated worse.


But in this case they've actually cut out part of what has been said which provides context for what he is saying. It's a bit different.

You don't think they do that with the other two? We just hear them complain or lash out. We rarely get the larger context.


Which makes me think: how did Lotus49 get the full quotation? Where can we hear these things? I'm not questioning his saying, I have a high regard for Lotus49, I'm just trying to find info like that.



You Tube play radio comms during a race.

1:06 for Alonso's comment



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It would be nice if we get a wet race.


Your wish could become true. It's raining there currently.


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Mercedes have brought a load of sidepod & rear wing updates to the car. Pictures included in the link below:
https://www.racefans.net/2018/06/28/mercedes-reveal-significant-sidepod-and-rear-wing-updates/

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Will be interesting to see how well those upgrades work. Imo this track favors ferrari due to the fact it is so traction dependent and has so many straights. S3 should favor Merc though.


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placing my bet on Lewis. The merc just seems to have made the jump ahead and now with more upgrades seems a safer bet if they work of course.

3rd drs zone looks a little pointless, but time will tell.


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Mercedes have brought a load of sidepod & rear wing updates to the car. Pictures included in the link below:
https://www.racefans.net/2018/06/28/mercedes-reveal-significant-sidepod-and-rear-wing-updates/


More McLaren Aero parts getting copied.

Rear wing of justice now 2yrs after McLaren introduced it. I think Renault introduced it a few races ago as well. Nose pillars got copied by Ferrari and STR and McLaren then ditch them, bargeboards copied by Renault, flow conditioners on sidepods copied by Mercedes in Spain iirc.

Some things are getting admiring glances but McLaren can't seem to put it all together.

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Will be interesting to see how well those upgrades work. Imo this track favors ferrari due to the fact it is so traction dependent and has so many straights. S3 should favor Merc though.

They are using the "Barcelona-spec" tires so I think Merc should be the favorites.


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Will be interesting to see how well those upgrades work. Imo this track favors ferrari due to the fact it is so traction dependent and has so many straights. S3 should favor Merc though.

They are using the "Barcelona-spec" tires so I think Merc should be the favorites.

The original report was for Barcelona, Paul Ricard and Silverstone only. Has it changed?

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2018/4/pirelli-reduces-tread-depth-for-barcelona--silverstone---paul-ri.html


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Will be interesting to see how well those upgrades work. Imo this track favors ferrari due to the fact it is so traction dependent and has so many straights. S3 should favor Merc though.

They are using the "Barcelona-spec" tires so I think Merc should be the favorites.

The original report was for Barcelona, Paul Ricard and Silverstone only. Has it changed?

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2018/4/pirelli-reduces-tread-depth-for-barcelona--silverstone---paul-ri.html

No, my mistake. For some reason I thought Austria was also using that tire.


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The driver's press conference. If You're a Kimi fan, You'll love his interactions with the press reporters here when as ked about his future & possible move to McLaren:


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Another nightmare for McLaren incoming and with Alonso's current mood it's not going to be pretty on the radio either. FOM were up to their usual tricks with him yesterday, apparently they cut the words "about Grosjean" out of his radio outburst about his brakes and not caring too much.

What they broadcast..

ALO- I have no brakes,no tyres, we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much.


What was actually said...

Engineer- Fernando brakes are still a concern for us, Grosjean is 6s behind
ALO- Mate,I have no brakes,no tyres,we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much about Grosjean.


It is so disrespectful how FOM edit his messages to make it look like he randomly started whining about his situation and sounding like he wanted to quit when it was a response to an engineer about Grosjean closing in and his brake issue.

He should just refuse to speak English on the radio or anything FOM want him to do, this is the 3rd or 4th time they've stitched him up like this, it's ridiculous.

Anytime Alonso, Hamilton or Vettel say something interesting on the radio, it will be broadcast. Hamilton's every complaint was broadcast in Bahrain and we all got the impression that Vettel was a hothead based on transmissions through the radio these last few years. It is not fair nor is it balanced for any of them but Alonso is not being treated worse.


But in this case they've actually cut out part of what has been said which provides context for what he is saying. It's a bit different.

agreed. I don't understand why they did this.. Trying to create interest??? If so, they may do just that... For the Indy 500 !

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Blake wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
Lotus49 wrote:
Another nightmare for McLaren incoming and with Alonso's current mood it's not going to be pretty on the radio either. FOM were up to their usual tricks with him yesterday, apparently they cut the words "about Grosjean" out of his radio outburst about his brakes and not caring too much.

What they broadcast..

ALO- I have no brakes,no tyres, we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much.


What was actually said...

Engineer- Fernando brakes are still a concern for us, Grosjean is 6s behind
ALO- Mate,I have no brakes,no tyres,we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much about Grosjean.


It is so disrespectful how FOM edit his messages to make it look like he randomly started whining about his situation and sounding like he wanted to quit when it was a response to an engineer about Grosjean closing in and his brake issue.

He should just refuse to speak English on the radio or anything FOM want him to do, this is the 3rd or 4th time they've stitched him up like this, it's ridiculous.

Anytime Alonso, Hamilton or Vettel say something interesting on the radio, it will be broadcast. Hamilton's every complaint was broadcast in Bahrain and we all got the impression that Vettel was a hothead based on transmissions through the radio these last few years. It is not fair nor is it balanced for any of them but Alonso is not being treated worse.


But in this case they've actually cut out part of what has been said which provides context for what he is saying. It's a bit different.

agreed. I don't understand why they did this.. Trying to create interest??? If so, they may do just that... For the Indy 500 !


It wasn't cut out of the live feed, but they've cut it out in the highlights thing on YT.... I'd say it's pretty obvious why they would do it, and it's not the first time either.

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Flash2k11 wrote:
Blake wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
Lotus49 wrote:
Another nightmare for McLaren incoming and with Alonso's current mood it's not going to be pretty on the radio either. FOM were up to their usual tricks with him yesterday, apparently they cut the words "about Grosjean" out of his radio outburst about his brakes and not caring too much.

What they broadcast..

ALO- I have no brakes,no tyres, we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much.


What was actually said...

Engineer- Fernando brakes are still a concern for us, Grosjean is 6s behind
ALO- Mate,I have no brakes,no tyres,we are out of the points, I will try to do whatever but I don't care too much about Grosjean.


It is so disrespectful how FOM edit his messages to make it look like he randomly started whining about his situation and sounding like he wanted to quit when it was a response to an engineer about Grosjean closing in and his brake issue.

He should just refuse to speak English on the radio or anything FOM want him to do, this is the 3rd or 4th time they've stitched him up like this, it's ridiculous.

Anytime Alonso, Hamilton or Vettel say something interesting on the radio, it will be broadcast. Hamilton's every complaint was broadcast in Bahrain and we all got the impression that Vettel was a hothead based on transmissions through the radio these last few years. It is not fair nor is it balanced for any of them but Alonso is not being treated worse.


But in this case they've actually cut out part of what has been said which provides context for what he is saying. It's a bit different.

agreed. I don't understand why they did this.. Trying to create interest??? If so, they may do just that... For the Indy 500 !


It wasn't cut out of the live feed, but they've cut it out in the highlights thing on YT.... I'd say it's pretty obvious why they would do it, and it's not the first time either.


I'm pretty sure it was cut from the live feed...


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Qualifying might be a little more interesting here. It seems Renault have unveiled their own party mode, which should put the Red Bulls right in the mix for pole at last and may rejig the midfield grid a bit.

https://www.grandprix247.com/2018/06/29/abiteboul-renault-teams-have-a-qualifying-mode-now/


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Mercedes have brought a load of sidepod & rear wing updates to the car. Pictures included in the link below:
https://www.racefans.net/2018/06/28/mercedes-reveal-significant-sidepod-and-rear-wing-updates/

More McLaren Aero parts getting copied.

Rear wing of justice now 2yrs after McLaren introduced it. I think Renault introduced it a few races ago as well. Nose pillars got copied by Ferrari and STR and McLaren then ditch them, bargeboards copied by Renault, flow conditioners on sidepods copied by Mercedes in Spain iirc.

Some things are getting admiring glances but McLaren can't seem to put it all together.

That makes the whole McLaren situation even stranger, tbh. If bits of their aero keep getting copied by top teams, why can't they make their own package work? There's obviously good ideas in there, but something must be keeping it from all coming together.

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Exediron wrote:
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Mercedes have brought a load of sidepod & rear wing updates to the car. Pictures included in the link below:
https://www.racefans.net/2018/06/28/mercedes-reveal-significant-sidepod-and-rear-wing-updates/

More McLaren Aero parts getting copied.

Rear wing of justice now 2yrs after McLaren introduced it. I think Renault introduced it a few races ago as well. Nose pillars got copied by Ferrari and STR and McLaren then ditch them, bargeboards copied by Renault, flow conditioners on sidepods copied by Mercedes in Spain iirc.

Some things are getting admiring glances but McLaren can't seem to put it all together.

That makes the whole McLaren situation even stranger, tbh. If bits of their aero keep getting copied by top teams, why can't they make their own package work? There's obviously good ideas in there, but something must be keeping it from all coming together.


Maybe they've got their aero OK but the chassis is rubbish?

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I expect those Merc wing mirrors to be "discussed"


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Have to say the Mercedes looks stunning through Turn 1. Hard on the brakes, carrying good mid-corner speed and really stable on exit. Looks a cut above the rest.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/live/2790687/austrian-gp-friday-practice-2018


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Hamilton looking good! :D
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