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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:17 am 
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Last night, as I gazed upon my television and the marvelous colours and sounds coming from it, I chanced upon an idea that at the time I reasoned was too genius to not follow up.

It was during qualifying, dear friends, that I envisioned the solution to Formula One's greatest modern foe - the dreaded halo. Argue for its positives as best you can, alas it cannot be denied the obstruction does have a considerable impact on the T-cam view.

Then, crack, like thunder breaking through the night sky, so did this vision pass through my mind. But for a moment's consideration it could have been gone, lost forever, and the Formula One community left without such an ingenius answer to a problem present since the dreaded halo was forced upon each competitor.

Herein I propose teams not concede all is lost in the aesthetics game owing to the halo's bold intrusion on T-cam recordings, but make the halo work for them. Do away with the halo not physically, but perceptibly. That is, paint the halo in a specific way so as for it to appear as if it is not there - to the best extent they can, at least. This would done, quite simply, by utilising the skills of a talented graphic designer who would paint the halo to make it resemble perfectly the bodywork it covers. My crude example follows; I'm sure a better artist could create a finer representation. Ideally the halo would be entirely painted so as to resemble what it is obstructing, which my rendering fails to do adequately. This is, however, merely a prototype.

This is the Red Bull Daniel Ricciardo drove in qualifying for the 2018 Monaco Grand Prix, using matching bodywork from his 2016 qualifying lap around the same track to create the effect.

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 Post subject: Re: Halo proposal
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:48 am 
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Seems to me that the media have already appropriated the space. The BBC feed overlays the halo with speedometer and a gear indicator graphics.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/

If you look closely, you can also see indicators for throttle, braking and a tachometer.

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 Post subject: Re: Halo proposal
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:49 am 
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I suppose they could take a pic of the car sans Halo and make a sticker out of it to go on it.

Worthy of some thought.

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 Post subject: Re: Halo proposal
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:11 pm 
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I love the idea but I think they're already getting sponsors and graphics over them so it'll be surprising if they gave those up but I'd go for your idea every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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 Post subject: Re: Halo proposal
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:33 pm 
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I dare say once the IndyCar screen is perfected, the FIA will take the idea, tweak it somehow to make it their own, and replace the halo anyway. Although, partly for the reasons of sponsors mentioned above, I dare say teams will insist on there being aero parts attachable to the screen in the same way as currently with the halo.

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 Post subject: Re: Halo proposal
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:41 pm 
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It’s a great idea. The only problem is the halo would look odd from none onboard shots, probably too messy for F1 corporates.


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 Post subject: Re: Halo proposal
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:04 pm 
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Painting is not necessary. Computer vision technology could every easily digitally remove this with cameras positioned under the halo.


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 Post subject: Re: Halo proposal
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:26 pm 
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Alienturnedhuman wrote:
Painting is not necessary. Computer vision technology could every easily digitally remove this with cameras positioned under the halo.

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I was planning on saying this. Not that I'm in favor of the idea, but it would be fairly simple to digitally remove the halo with the use of multiple cameras.

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 Post subject: Re: Halo proposal
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Why not just mount the camera in the halo? Add an extra carbon fibre surround so the actual titanium is uncompromised, and have the camera in front of the driver. Would give a better idea of what the driver sees, being lower.

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 Post subject: Re: Halo proposal
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The whole thing of the onboard is seeing steering wheel inputs though


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 Post subject: Re: Halo proposal
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Johnson wrote:
The whole thing of the onboard is seeing steering wheel inputs though

True... Maybe there's scope for a camera specifically to see into the cockpit as well as a forward facing camera?

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 Post subject: Re: Halo proposal
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The whole thing of the onboard is seeing steering wheel inputs though

True... Maybe there's scope for a camera specifically to see into the cockpit as well as a forward facing camera?

How about driver's eye view, with the halo properly blurred as it is actually seen by the drivers?

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 Post subject: Re: Halo proposal
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@ Toby, heck of an intro to the segment I must say. :thumbup:


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The whole thing of the onboard is seeing steering wheel inputs though

True... Maybe there's scope for a camera specifically to see into the cockpit as well as a forward facing camera?

How about driver's eye view, with the halo properly blurred as it is actually seen by the drivers?


I’ve wondered why they haven’t incorporated the driver eye view in the world feed yet. Other motor sports use it so why not F1???

Also as tufty stated the Indy aero screen would solve the issue all together. The halo is the first step in the head protection development it will be further developed as time goes on. I’m still not a fan of the esthetics myself but still prefer it over a closed cockpit

Side note... it also ruins my favorite driving view in the F1 video game smh

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 Post subject: Re: Halo proposal
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Mayhem wrote:
I’ve wondered why they haven’t incorporated the driver eye view in the world feed yet. Other motor sports use it so why not F1???


They had been getting there in recent years. I reckon the introduction of the halo has probably put that camera on the backburner though.

Liberty does seem to be bringing something new to just about every race, so we might be surprised before the end of the year.

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 Post subject: Re: Halo proposal
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Exediron wrote:
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Johnson wrote:
The whole thing of the onboard is seeing steering wheel inputs though

True... Maybe there's scope for a camera specifically to see into the cockpit as well as a forward facing camera?

How about driver's eye view, with the halo properly blurred as it is actually seen by the drivers?

Think this is the answer. The halo T-cams aren't too bad now that we have got used to them IMO but get good quality visor cams to go with them and we're set.


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