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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:22 pm 
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The Andretti-McLaren part is speculation at this point.

I posted this in another thread, but it may have been a little off topic, so I will start a different thread and ask how people think he will do in Indycar?

Just an update, Honda confirms that Nando will test with a Honda powered car soon, it appears that it will be an Andretti-McLaren collaboration. Not that any of this is a surprise, but there was some speculation that he offended Honda so bad that he wasn't going to be in a Honda powered car and Andretti was going be be involved with him through his other partnership Harding Racing in a Chevy

https://autoweek.com/article/formula-on ... ourse-test

Andretti will have a hell of a lineup with fernando, but it makes since they already partnered with them for the indy500.

I think Fernando will probably be the best driver in Indycar, but do you guys that follow both Indycar and F1 think he will dominate the series? I think the cars are so close and that there is some serious talent now in Indycar that I doubt he will dominate in a way that say, Zanardi did back in his day. What do you guys think?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:35 pm 
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Andretti will have a hell of a lineup with fernando, but it makes since they already partnered with them for the indy500.

I think Fernando will probably be the best driver in Indycar, but do you guys that follow both Indycar and F1 think he will dominate the series? I think the cars are so close and that there is some serious talent now in Indycar that I doubt he will dominate in a way that say, Zanardi did back in his day. What do you guys think?

I think that on pure talent he will have a certain margin over any of the others, although the combination of talent and experience in IndyCar specifically that Dixon (for example) has might give him what it takes to compete equally until Fernando gets up to pace.

However, looking at what he's been able to do in WEC - being faster than a veteran of the sport like Buemi in the same car by multiple tenths - he may adapt more quickly to IndyCar than anyone expects.

Certainly, my opinion is that he will be the best driver on the grid. But how long it takes him to absorb all the intricacies of the sport will be the big question for his first season.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:57 pm 
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Good to hear, and no mention of any WEC-Toyota worries so that's good. Didn't think HPD would have an issue with working with Alonso, they are separate from HRD(Sakura) and they worked well together in Indy and despite the failure Alonso was nothing but complimentary to their Indy engine and department.

He's good for the series so I think it'll happen and he'll be competitive but I certainly don't think he'll dominate. Good drivers and near spec cars is tough if you know the cars and tracks like the back of your hand but he'll effectively be a rookie and it'll show at times I'm sure. He's not exactly the luckiest dude either so reliability issues and normal rookie issues on new tracks might be as big a stumbling block as any driver. Although Rossi,Hunter-Rey,Newgarden,Dixon and Wickens at the very least are all legit imo and would be good in F1 too.

Not a regular IndyCar guy, far from it, but I'll be a full time viewer in 2019 to see how he gets on. Won't affect my F1 viewing though fwiw.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:37 am 
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I am excited to see him in the series. With Alonso being Alonso, I don’t think it’ll take him as long to adapt to ovals as most do. He will be taking more out of each practise session than most. On the Road Courses, I’d expect him to be up there with the specialists like Power and Dixon.

I think a full season will better prepare him for Indy. Championship wise, it’ll come down to how quick he adapts to Ovals


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:26 am 
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Good to hear, and no mention of any WEC-Toyota worries so that's good. Didn't think HPD would have an issue with working with Alonso, they are separate from HRD(Sakura) and they worked well together in Indy and despite the failure Alonso was nothing but complimentary to their Indy engine and department.

He's good for the series so I think it'll happen and he'll be competitive but I certainly don't think he'll dominate. Good drivers and near spec cars is tough if you know the cars and tracks like the back of your hand but he'll effectively be a rookie and it'll show at times I'm sure. He's not exactly the luckiest dude either so reliability issues and normal rookie issues on new tracks might be as big a stumbling block as any driver. Although Rossi,Hunter-Rey,Newgarden,Dixon and Wickens at the very least are all legit imo and would be good in F1 too.

Not a regular IndyCar guy, far from it, but I'll be a full time viewer in 2019 to see how he gets on. Won't affect my F1 viewing though fwiw.

BIB: now that you mention it, what are the odds McLaren comes out with a world-beater in 2019? :twisted:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:46 am 
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Lotus49 wrote:
Good to hear, and no mention of any WEC-Toyota worries so that's good. Didn't think HPD would have an issue with working with Alonso, they are separate from HRD(Sakura) and they worked well together in Indy and despite the failure Alonso was nothing but complimentary to their Indy engine and department.

He's good for the series so I think it'll happen and he'll be competitive but I certainly don't think he'll dominate. Good drivers and near spec cars is tough if you know the cars and tracks like the back of your hand but he'll effectively be a rookie and it'll show at times I'm sure. He's not exactly the luckiest dude either so reliability issues and normal rookie issues on new tracks might be as big a stumbling block as any driver. Although Rossi,Hunter-Rey,Newgarden,Dixon and Wickens at the very least are all legit imo and would be good in F1 too.

Not a regular IndyCar guy, far from it, but I'll be a full time viewer in 2019 to see how he gets on. Won't affect my F1 viewing though fwiw.

BIB: now that you mention it, what are the odds McLaren comes out with a world-beater in 2019? :twisted:


Alonso would lose his marbles. Maybe that's why McLaren let him go, they are banking on this trend to finally win!!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:04 am 
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The Renault engine will still need be up to par with Mercedes/Ferrari engine though as Red Bull know so well.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:10 am 
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Guys, this is about Alonso and IndyCar, can we keep it on topic please?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:01 am 
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P-F1 Mod wrote:
Guys, this is about Alonso and IndyCar, can we keep it on topic please?


I took it that Zoue means 'McLaren comes out with a world-beater' in indy car.
But then, I have always been a little strange.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:02 am 
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yeah, apologies. It was just meant as a joke, but clearly not a good one. I just noticed the bit that said Alonso suffers from bad luck and thought it would be ironic if after leaving McLaren they'd suddenly provide a front running car and thereby extend his bad luck. Was tongue in cheek

If you have to explain a joke, the joke's cr*p!

Anyways, sorry for unintentionally derailing the thread!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:21 pm 
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Certainly, my opinion is that he will be the best driver on the grid. But how long it takes him to absorb all the intricacies of the sport will be the big question for his first season.

I disagree... he already ran one of the most grueling races in the world and was in contention his very first time out until his engine failed. The most difficult thing he’ll have to adjust to is short tracks. He’ll adapt to and learn the road courses rather quickly and easily so overall it will be a question of strategy and team synchronicity and the team getting the aero kits sorted out just right that will account for his overall success, as those are the biggest things not entirely in his hands.

Indy has some talented drivers, but if you think F1 has a few scrubs, Indy has many more of those spread out across the field, so he’s going to be fighting roughly the same number of guys he would be in F1 if he were in similarly good machinery.

If his team doesn’t screw up he should be in contention ala Mansel in ‘93.

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I've read or heard that Alonso has a contract with Toyota to race in the World endurance championship next year even if he wins this year, I can definitely see the Indycar project happening and Honda seem all right about working with him again.

McLaren also it seems wanna be involved but they wont be building chassis and also are willing to work with Andretti, as long as McLaren have the money and commitment to make this work then all the best to them.


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I've read or heard that Alonso has a contract with Toyota to race in the World endurance championship next year even if he wins this year, I can definitely see the Indycar project happening and Honda seem all right about working with him again.

McLaren also it seems wanna be involved but they wont be building chassis and also are willing to work with Andretti, as long as McLaren have the money and commitment to make this work then all the best to them.


The chassis is build by Dallara for the whole series. The engine and aero kit are given by the 2 manufacturers (Chevrolet and Honda). So yeah not much build by the teams themselves.
Also the ECU on all cars is made from Mclaren so you could say they are already involved... :P

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With past F1 winners and champions like Emo. Fittipaldi, Nigel Mansell, Mario Andretti, & J.P. Montoya, Fernando appears to have a lot to live up to in the indycar series. Will be interesting to see if Fernando can just show up and start winning races like Mansell did.


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paulsf1fix wrote:
I've read or heard that Alonso has a contract with Toyota to race in the World endurance championship next year even if he wins this year, I can definitely see the Indycar project happening and Honda seem all right about working with him again.

McLaren also it seems wanna be involved but they wont be building chassis and also are willing to work with Andretti, as long as McLaren have the money and commitment to make this work then all the best to them.


It's the same year in WEC, they call it a Super Season and his contract is for the entirety of it so runs out after next years Le Mans which is the finale of the Super Season 2018/19.

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