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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:38 am 
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I'm guessing this will take Brazil's slot on the calendar.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:48 am 
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Here is the layout:

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:02 am 
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Another street circuit. Yipee.

Looks like the formula for a F1 track going forward is a street track with an ultra long straight.

So we'll have street tracks in Melbourne, Monaco, Baku, Singapore, Russia & Hanoi and if the rumours are true, Baku will be replaced with Miami, another street track.

I don't know about you lot but i'm getting kinda street tracked out.

At least it'll be another race in my time zone so I shouldn't say too much I suppose.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:06 pm 
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The circuit looks okay, but like all these tracks it will depend on the quality of the track surface.

My main issue is that the main point of having a street circuit is to be in an iconic location whereas this appears to be on the outskirts of the city.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:49 pm 
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The long straights should give opportunities for overtaking which is a good thing.

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OK, I'll simply note it for the record...

All these capitalistic, money-grubbing races in communist countries where the fans (if there are any) can barely afford shoes (all made in the same tractor factory).... just puzzles me.

Just because a wealthy real estate baron (how is that possible in a collective society?) wants a GP does not make it a going proposition for long. Can't wait to buy my tickets... to Monaco, instead. At least my wife can troll the haute couture shops there, vs taking a fun-filled, propaganda-laced tour of the "Hanoi Hilton" Museum. Hold on to your purse, dear.

What is Liberty Media thinking, seriously? Taking Brazil's slot, REALLY? How many Asian races have to come and go before they get the hint? Malaysia had a decent run, but remember Korea? :thumbdown:

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MB-BOB wrote:
OK, I'll simply note it for the record...

All these capitalistic, money-grubbing races in communist countries where the fans (if there are any) can barely afford shoes (all made in the same tractor factory).... just puzzles me.

Just because a wealthy real estate baron (how is that possible in a collective society?) wants a GP does not make it a going proposition for long. Can't wait to buy my tickets... to Monaco, instead. At least my wife can troll the haute couture shops there, vs taking a fun-filled, propaganda-laced tour of the "Hanoi Hilton" Museum. Hold on to your purse, dear.

What is Liberty Media thinking, seriously? Taking Brazil's slot, REALLY? How many Asian races have to come and go before they get the hint? Malaysia had a decent run, but remember Korea? :thumbdown:


I assume you've never been to Vietnam?

I also assume you've never been anywhere near Barcelona? A place well-known for it's pickpockets. Brazil has serious robberies every year - often against the teams themselves. The inference that Hanoi is somehow less safe than other locations currently on the calendar winds me up a bit.

Hanoi is also within spitting distance of China, the Chinese GP has had its financial troubles, but it's been going for 15 years now and doesn't seem to be going anywhere. It's not far from Macau - which has a wealth of motorsport history.

Worth a go IMO.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:03 pm 
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Who the hell in their right mind wants another street circuit added to the calender, overtaking is hard enough let alone adding another pointless track.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:30 pm 
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Herb wrote:
I assume you've never been to Vietnam?

Yes I have, and not in a memorable way.

Indeed, Interlagos is surrounded by indigent favalas and crime is rampant. Perhaps the pickpockets in Hanoi will be more courteous and less aggressive?

Point is that the F1 Circus has no business rubbing the noses of the local needy in its billion dollar excesses in which the local poverty will never share or participate.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:54 pm 
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MB-BOB wrote:
Herb wrote:
I assume you've never been to Vietnam?

Yes I have, and not in a memorable way.

Indeed, Interlagos is surrounded by indigent favalas and crime is rampant. Perhaps the pickpockets in Hanoi will be more courteous and less aggressive?

Point is that the F1 Circus has no business rubbing the noses of the local needy in its billion dollar excesses in which the local poverty will never share or participate.

Sounds like the very similar case of the Indian GP


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Remember when Liberty said that they would be bringing the sport back to the fans...

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Chase Carey said that among the future F1 drivers, hopefully one of them is from Vietnam (perhaps to justify his decision of taking F1 to Vietnam).
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/formula-1/news/carey-now-wants-vietnamese-f1-driver_340903.html

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MB-BOB wrote:
fun-filled, propaganda-laced tour of the "Hanoi Hilton" Museum

Well as they say, history is written by the winners...

Who woulda thunk the people who are against this race for political reasons are Americans.

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UnlikeUday wrote:
Chase Carey said that among the future F1 drivers, hopefully one of them is from Vietnam (perhaps to justify his decision of taking F1 to Vietnam).
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/formula-1/news/carey-now-wants-vietnamese-f1-driver_340903.html

If Liberty Media can't get an American driver into F1 despite it's rich abundance of drivers, what's the odds of getting a Vietnamese driver into F1 bearing in mind I believe currently they have no professional drivers?

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Not without merit from the looks of things.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7CvkGNtHTs

Looks interesting. Will have to wait till 2020 to find out if it's a decent race track.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:16 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:01 pm 
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let us hope the new aero rules provide the close Racing this track will need.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:44 pm 
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Just found this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8vGfM9BZsU

There's a way of increasing the excitement, let the cows wander across the track like they are doing in this video (I'm joking).


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Virtual lap:


Have to admit that fast flowing section looks really nice. Also that reaaaalllyy long straight into the tight hairpin is going to almost guarantee action. First part of the track looks a bit boring.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:49 pm 
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Long finger out and back looks a bit like the proposed layout for the Miami GP.

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Digital onboard, looks like it will be a good track for overtaking.


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None of the virtual videos seem to get how wide many parts of the track really are. Assuming street circuit, they have made everything narrow. In reality the straights and many turns that approach the straights and follow it was very wide public streets.
Frankly I cant find much wrong with the circuit layout itself. Its gonna be nuts like Baku, little less crazy, but still little crazy.

As far as usual moans about F1 going to new tracks, boohooo. Get over it. Even if its for just few years. I have no problems with F1 going new places. Historic tracks are nice and all, but not all historic tracks are great and I love watching new tracks. Baku is my absolute favourite track on calendar right now. These asian races also mean there is possibility that I might be able to go watch it in person.


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MB-BOB wrote:
OK, I'll simply note it for the record...

All these capitalistic, money-grubbing races in communist countries where the fans (if there are any) can barely afford shoes (all made in the same tractor factory).... just puzzles me.

Just because a wealthy real estate baron (how is that possible in a collective society?) wants a GP does not make it a going proposition for long. Can't wait to buy my tickets... to Monaco, instead. At least my wife can troll the haute couture shops there, vs taking a fun-filled, propaganda-laced tour of the "Hanoi Hilton" Museum. Hold on to your purse, dear.

What is Liberty Media thinking, seriously? Taking Brazil's slot, REALLY? How many Asian races have to come and go before they get the hint? Malaysia had a decent run, but remember Korea? :thumbdown:

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Well, said, Sir! :)

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