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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:47 am 
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I really hope it's green. Unlikely but it's a badly underused colour lately.
This is the car I'm most excited to see because we have no idea what it'll look like.

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Im expecting it to feature more dark blue, maybe even getting towards the testing livery from a few years back.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:27 pm 
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One of the teaser images suggested a grey with electric blue, which if executed well could look really, really smart.

(It could also look really, really awful if done poorly)

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Have they confirmed the time of the unveil?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:48 pm 
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MistaVega23 wrote:
Have they confirmed the time of the unveil?


15:00 GMT


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owenmahamilton wrote:
MistaVega23 wrote:
Have they confirmed the time of the unveil?


15:00 GMT

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I can stop refreshing my screen every 10mins now!

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I’m a Williams fan and also loved the Martini livery. Fingers crossed the new one looks just as good.

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It's gorgeous going by the initial look.

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Yuk, sorry Williams but that looks bad imho. I think they are going to finish last in 2019.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:16 pm 
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Looks like they tasked the work experience with 5 mins photoshop experience with replicating the Mercedes livery.

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I like the light blue.
That's all.

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That looks incredibly tacky

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Underwhelming. Looks like something you'd see on an F3 car.

EDIT: If they got rid of that silly black (they had it on the Martini livery as well) and replaced it with the same light blue/white scheme, it would look massively improved.

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And drivers in new outfits - I like it

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Livery... hmm I don't really like it but after BTW Force India livery I can accept pretty much everything. The thing I don't understand is the light blue color, I don't remember this color on Williams livery ever in the past and it's - as far as I know - not connected with any sponsor so... just why? :/


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I must be the only one who quite likes it! I wish they'd gone with that light blue all over though. I'm worried there won't be a lot of colour on the grid this season.


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It's a resounding ... meh from me. Not horrible, but definitely not one of their best.

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Think it looks ok. Not as good as the martini livery. Ill reserve final judgment until i see it on track.


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I'm not a fan. Something about it just screams cheap and tacky. Like the kind of livery you'd get from a team in a feeder series, or the kind of thing you'd see as a generic livery available when creating a team in an F1 game. Not what I'd expect to see on an actual F1 car.

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is dale jr #88, driving for williams this year ??
livery looks decent....man are we all starved for some f1 racing this time a year or what. so much commenting on liveries ! lol


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Very underwhelming livery.

I'll echo the comments of others here in that it looks cheap and not particularly well thought out.

Lets hope it was because they were directing as many resources as they could to getting the car right in the off season. If they can't it'll remind me of an old saying I'm fond of, "If you can't do the job, at least look like you can do it".

If you're going to have a dud car, you might as well make it look good & in the looks department, the Williams has come up short on this one.

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Yuk, sorry Williams but that looks bad imho. I think they are going to finish last in 2019.

It's an interesting psychological thing that people instinctively associate a bad livery with an uncompetitive car.

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Exediron wrote:
owenmahamilton wrote:
Yuk, sorry Williams but that looks bad imho. I think they are going to finish last in 2019.

It's an interesting psychological thing that people instinctively associate a bad livery with an uncompetitive car.


For me it is normally the opposite. An uncompetitive car makes the livery bad.. However, i do like the McLaren livery now. :lol:

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Exediron wrote:
owenmahamilton wrote:
Yuk, sorry Williams but that looks bad imho. I think they are going to finish last in 2019.

It's an interesting psychological thing that people instinctively associate a bad livery with an uncompetitive car.


I actually meant that I think they will finish last regardless of the livery, which I still think is bad.


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The comments from Claire about her job hanging on whether or not Frank could part with his 'traditional' navy blue depress me. He should fire her because she ran the team into the ground, not because of a shade of blue that isn't a tradition anyway. The first Willams F1 titles were won with a white car trimmed in green. Then they won a bunch with cars that had prominent yellow, medium blue and red trim, before winning more with medium blue and white. Navy first appeared in 2000, and no titles have occurred since. What kind of tradition is that?


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The comments from Claire about her job hanging on whether or not Frank could part with his 'traditional' navy blue depress me. He should fire her because she ran the team into the ground, not because of a shade of blue that isn't a tradition anyway. The first Willams F1 titles were won with a white car trimmed in green. Then they won a bunch with cars that had prominent yellow, medium blue and red trim, before winning more with medium blue and white. Navy first appeared in 2000, and no titles have occurred since. What kind of tradition is that?

Because Williams were so competitive during Frank's last years leading the team?

Claire hasn't run the team into the ground. They were backmarkers last year, but that was the first time during her tenure that they were the worst team. Williams ceased being a top team and became just another also-ran while Frank was still in charge.

Their drivers this year include the hottest prospect on the grid, partnered with a driver who the majority of fans wanted to see back and who was once a top driver. They have a technical chief who has won multiple WCCs. It isn't reasonable to describe the team as having been run into the ground.

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Todd wrote:
The comments from Claire about her job hanging on whether or not Frank could part with his 'traditional' navy blue depress me. He should fire her because she ran the team into the ground, not because of a shade of blue that isn't a tradition anyway. The first Willams F1 titles were won with a white car trimmed in green. Then they won a bunch with cars that had prominent yellow, medium blue and red trim, before winning more with medium blue and white. Navy first appeared in 2000, and no titles have occurred since. What kind of tradition is that?


I think her comments were tongue in cheek and that you are reading way too much into them. And the truth is that none of us know if the downfall of Williams is her fault. They went pretty much 8 years without a win between 2004 and 2012 which before her time.

They benefitted from being the second best Mercedes powered car between 2014 and 2016. Last season was horrendous. The car was woeful and the driver lineup was depressingly weak. Steps have been taken to address tge latter. Time will tell on the former.


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If only the cars went as fast as their looks...


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Exediron wrote:
They have a technical chief who has won multiple WCCs. It isn't reasonable to describe the team as having been run into the ground.


They have a technical chief who happened to be at teams who won multiple WCCs but who is not necessarily the common demoninator. If he was so good then Mr Stroll would have tried to take him to Racing Point.


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If only the cars went as fast as their looks...

This would be plum last.

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I think the lighting hasn't done them any favours here, there's a yellow tint that gives the car a slightly grubby look. I reckon it'll look better out on track.


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I'm no designer to say the least but those colours and lines just don't seem to go well together. Too bad.


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I'm no designer to say the least but those colours and lines just don't seem to go well together. Too bad.

There's only really one color involved - the others are white and black. I'm pretty sure it would be possible to develop a livery - using white, black and light blue - that actually looks good. It wouldn't involve a dubious 2000-era photoshop fade brush as the main design element, however.

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At the moment i'd say its the worst livery on the grid.


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Dom1878 wrote:
At the moment i'd say its the worst livery on the grid.


I would say second worst after Racing Point, however I have some feeling that it can look way better on track...


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It looks quite boring, but not hideously "busy" like some F1 cars have been over the years so it's not ALL bad, but if it moves the team up even just a couple of places in the WCC next year I'll let them off :)


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I saw someone post a sort of re-imagination of the livery elsewhere online, and I can't help but to feel that it's a lot better...

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