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 Post subject: 2019 Motogp Season
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:07 am 
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Well im excited even though MM has layed down an ominous early marker. Cant look any further then him again but hopefully somone will push him. one thing you can always guarantee is that there will be some cracking races.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:01 pm 
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He was slip streaming behind Vinales who set the second fastest time, more interesting perhaps is the straight line speed of the Honda this year, it is now the fastest bike taking over the mantle of Ducati these past few years, in contrast the Yamaha is the slowest bike.

So the fastest rider in the world is now given the fastest bike in a straight line, ominous.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:25 pm 
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Liking the new qually format for Moto2/3. Not least because practice sessions mean a lot more now for all classes.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:24 pm 
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pokerman wrote:
He was slip streaming behind Vinales who set the second fastest time, more interesting perhaps is the straight line speed of the Honda this year, it is now the fastest bike taking over the mantle of Ducati these past few years, in contrast the Yamaha is the slowest bike.

So the fastest rider in the world is now given the fastest bike in a straight line, ominous.

Yeah Qatar is a bit of an odd circuit and an outlier. It was impressive to see Vinales lay down that lap but I think Marc will probably dominate this season.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:36 pm 
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sandman1347 wrote:
pokerman wrote:
He was slip streaming behind Vinales who set the second fastest time, more interesting perhaps is the straight line speed of the Honda this year, it is now the fastest bike taking over the mantle of Ducati these past few years, in contrast the Yamaha is the slowest bike.

So the fastest rider in the world is now given the fastest bike in a straight line, ominous.

Yeah Qatar is a bit of an odd circuit and an outlier. It was impressive to see Vinales lay down that lap but I think Marc will probably dominate this season.

Seeing Vinales quick in testing and getting pole first time out reminds me of 2017 when he was looking favourite for the title until Rossi decided he didn't like the bike but I digress.

It's quite confusing with the Honda being the quickest on the straight that Marquez felt he needed a tow but Vinales with Yamaha being the slowest bike on the straight didn't need a tow.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
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Pretty impressed with Quartararo. Gutted about the start but he's definitely got some promise.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
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It's interesting to see the lack of talent in Moto2 and Moto3 at the moment. Moto2 in particular seems to be made up primarily of guys who weren't good enough to win championships these last few years. The guys out front were the likes of Baldassari, Alex Marquez, Vieje, Luthi, Gardner, etc. The most impressive rider on the day was undoubtedly Luthi; a 32 year old rider with more than a decade of experience in the intermediate class who flamed out in his one year in MotoGP. The rich vein of talent that started with Marc Marquez and contained the likes of Vinales, Rins, Zarco and Morbideli has now truly dried up it seems. Jorge Martin is a rookie to keep an eye on in Moto2 but he had a pretty awful first race.

Moto3 is not much better. Aaron Canet will have his work cut out for him as it seems Honda have surpassed KTM this year in terms of power. He did appear to be the best rider overall but he's going to be up against the odds if things continue to look like this on the straights. Canet was consistently beaten out though over the last 2-3 years by better riders like Mir and Martin and he appears to be the best of the current crop. Outside of him you have a lot of unknown riders and other guys who have been in the series for ages. Perhaps this year will be Fenati's chance to finally win a title. He did seem to be the overall fastest package out there and if not for his foolish mistake in taking a penalty when he didn't have to, I think he would likely have won the race. Congrats to Toba though. That was a brilliant win and I saw enough from him to make me thing it won't be a one-off. He was not only fast but, crucially, he showed aggression. That has long been the weakness of Japanese riders but he seems to have enough fight in him to remain a contender.

Despite the weakness of the feeder classes, MotoGP seems to be stronger than ever (perhaps the two circumstances go hand-in-hand). What a battle at the front we saw! It seems that all 4 factory teams have the potential to be competitive with perhaps Yamaha bringing up the rear. Vinales must figure out how to be quick when the bike is on a full load of fuel. He will never become champion if he can't figure that out despite the fact that he's as fast as anyone on light fuel.

Dovi has really earned my respect. The guy is smart. Even the commentators didn't pick up that he intentionally let Marques through on the penultimate lap so that he could take the lead into turn 1 on the final lap and pull a repeat of last year's race. He's cagey and he's sharp but I think Marc will win another championship this season. That Honda is a beast and Qatar is really not a Honda track at all. I do think Marc might indeed have the best bike this year and I think he will dominate the championship yet again.

I am very impressed with Suzuki and Rins as well. They are fast! I believe that they have the best chassis this year and with a little more power they would have the best bike. Rins is looking strong but he'll have to look over his shoulder at his teammate. Mir seems to have come to terms with the bike quite quickly and he's looking like a shoe-in for rookie of the year so far. That said, I wouldn't count out Bagnaia. He'll get the hang of things soon enough and that Ducati is still very strong. This is going to be a great year!


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:10 pm 
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sandman1347 wrote:
Pretty impressed with Quartararo. Gutted about the start but he's definitely got some promise.

Yeah he seems to perform better on the bigger bikes, he was going nowhere in Moto3 then started to look really good in his rookie season in Moto2.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:18 pm 
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sandman1347 wrote:
It's interesting to see the lack of talent in Moto2 and Moto3 at the moment. Moto2 in particular seems to be made up primarily of guys who weren't good enough to win championships these last few years. The guys out front were the likes of Baldassari, Alex Marquez, Vieje, Luthi, Gardner, etc. The most impressive rider on the day was undoubtedly Luthi; a 32 year old rider with more than a decade of experience in the intermediate class who flamed out in his one year in MotoGP. The rich vein of talent that started with Marc Marquez and contained the likes of Vinales, Rins, Zarco and Morbideli has now truly dried up it seems. Jorge Martin is a rookie to keep an eye on in Moto2 but he had a pretty awful first race.

Moto3 is not much better. Aaron Canet will have his work cut out for him as it seems Honda have surpassed KTM this year in terms of power. He did appear to be the best rider overall but he's going to be up against the odds if things continue to look like this on the straights. Canet was consistently beaten out though over the last 2-3 years by better riders like Mir and Martin and he appears to be the best of the current crop. Outside of him you have a lot of unknown riders and other guys who have been in the series for ages. Perhaps this year will be Fenati's chance to finally win a title. He did seem to be the overall fastest package out there and if not for his foolish mistake in taking a penalty when he didn't have to, I think he would likely have won the race. Congrats to Toba though. That was a brilliant win and I saw enough from him to make me thing it won't be a one-off. He was not only fast but, crucially, he showed aggression. That has long been the weakness of Japanese riders but he seems to have enough fight in him to remain a contender.

Despite the weakness of the feeder classes, MotoGP seems to be stronger than ever (perhaps the two circumstances go hand-in-hand). What a battle at the front we saw! It seems that all 4 factory teams have the potential to be competitive with perhaps Yamaha bringing up the rear. Vinales must figure out how to be quick when the bike is on a full load of fuel. He will never become champion if he can't figure that out despite the fact that he's as fast as anyone on light fuel.

Dovi has really earned my respect. The guy is smart. Even the commentators didn't pick up that he intentionally let Marques through on the penultimate lap so that he could take the lead into turn 1 on the final lap and pull a repeat of last year's race. He's cagey and he's sharp but I think Marc will win another championship this season. That Honda is a beast and Qatar is really not a Honda track at all. I do think Marc might indeed have the best bike this year and I think he will dominate the championship yet again.

I am very impressed with Suzuki and Rins as well. They are fast! I believe that they have the best chassis this year and with a little more power they would have the best bike. Rins is looking strong but he'll have to look over his shoulder at his teammate. Mir seems to have come to terms with the bike quite quickly and he's looking like a shoe-in for rookie of the year so far. That said, I wouldn't count out Bagnaia. He'll get the hang of things soon enough and that Ducati is still very strong. This is going to be a great year!

Yes the success of MotoGP does go hand in hand in what you perceive to a weakness of talent in Moto2 and Moto3, in recent years talented riders have been fast tracked into MotoGP.

I don't understand why you consider the Honda to be a beast when I look at how easily Dovi was able to pass Marquez on the long straight, it seems a bit like status quo to me with Ducati still being the best overall bike.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:13 pm 
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The only way Dovi beats MM is with the best bike and that's what he has but I just think his too inconsistent. MM is a beast and a joy to watch, he just needs to consistently pick up the points.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:59 pm 
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Look, I think all of the bikes are strong this year except the KTM. I don't think anyone can complain about their bike. Even the Yamaha didn't really seem to be weak, it was more that Vinales was really poor on a heavy tank and Rossi messed up in qualifying.

Could the Ducati be the best all around bike? Yes it very much could. Not only Dovi and Petrucci but Jack Miller also looked very strong. That said Crutchlow was right up there despite his injury and Nakagami looked pretty strong too. The Honda was the fastest bike in a straight line without question. Qatar is not a Honda track and it's not a Marquez track. I have a feeling you will see Marc stretch his legs once we get a few races into the season.

This is the strongest field of riders I've ever seen in MotoGP. There are riders who are not even going to be in the top 10 who would have been Rossi's main rival 15 years ago!


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
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Interesting first race. I think the Suzuki’s are seriously going to trouble the big guns this year. In fast corners their bike is phenomenal. Rins is going to be a spoiler for sure, he looks fearless and extremely quick. For my money, the Honda is the best bike and Márquez is still the standard. Qatar is a unique circuit and for Honda to be so competitive there is ominous.

Quartararo looks to be quick too—can’t wait to see what he can do. Looks like Zarco has a long, hard year in front of him. Argentina should really give us a good idea on things, although Márquez was ina league if his own there last year. Hopefully everyone else will be on the pace with him there.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
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If Qatar is any indication, it's going to be quite the exciting season, with four teams battling hard at the front. However, I think the result will be similar to last year, with MM pulling away from Dovi at the end.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
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If Qatar is any indication, it's going to be quite the exciting season, with four teams battling hard at the front. However, I think the result will be similar to last year, with MM pulling away from Dovi at the end.

Indeed and the finish was a carbon copy of last season, what did for Dovi last year was crashing out 3 times in the early races which made things too easy for Marquez.

In part I think things were not helped by his teammate Lorenzo, riders don't really have teammates as such but Lorenzo in particular can't be defined as an affable teammate, without the Lorenzo distraction I expect Dovi to have a stronger season.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
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pokerman wrote:
kowen1208 wrote:
If Qatar is any indication, it's going to be quite the exciting season, with four teams battling hard at the front. However, I think the result will be similar to last year, with MM pulling away from Dovi at the end.

Indeed and the finish was a carbon copy of last season, what did for Dovi last year was crashing out 3 times in the early races which made things too easy for Marquez.

In part I think things were not helped by his teammate Lorenzo, riders don't really have teammates as such but Lorenzo in particular can't be defined as an affable teammate, without the Lorenzo distraction I expect Dovi to have a stronger season.

This - if Lorenzo gets up to speed he could well become a distraction for Marquez.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
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tootsie323 wrote:
pokerman wrote:
kowen1208 wrote:
If Qatar is any indication, it's going to be quite the exciting season, with four teams battling hard at the front. However, I think the result will be similar to last year, with MM pulling away from Dovi at the end.

Indeed and the finish was a carbon copy of last season, what did for Dovi last year was crashing out 3 times in the early races which made things too easy for Marquez.

In part I think things were not helped by his teammate Lorenzo, riders don't really have teammates as such but Lorenzo in particular can't be defined as an affable teammate, without the Lorenzo distraction I expect Dovi to have a stronger season.

This - if Lorenzo gets up to speed he could well become a distraction for Marquez.

Only if he is quick enough, that's a big question mark?

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Motogp Season
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https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/91555 ... togp-debut

Ugh. The wings have become so important that if one is slightly damaged as was the case here with Bagnaia, the balance is so upset the rider has to DNF. Quicker they get rid of the things the better. And I mean entirely. I will shake my fist at God if my favorite sport turns into a mini-F1 with downforce problems that complicated wing shapes present.

Regarding Lorenzo, I thought he did a fair job to finish where he did considering the injuries he sustained after FP2. Prior to that, he was looking better. If the guy can just stay healthy, I think he will show better on the Honda, faster, than he did on the Ducati. That being said, 13th wasn't bad with the fractured bone in the wrist and the rib fracture, which was acute, in the race.

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