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I can't find anything recent involving Wolff and oil burning... are you sure you're not confused and actually thinking of Horner's comment about the grapefruit smell?

Probably from the telly which tends to be hard to find as opposed to an article?

Yes albeit interesting comments usually get article coverage as well.

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I did not know where else to put this. Interesting stats as we get to this milestone GP:

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... stone-race

At the very bottom it is interesting to see the Mercedes domination in numbers. Nothing like it in the history of F1, 73% of the last 100 races won. Unreal


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I can't find anything recent involving Wolff and oil burning... are you sure you're not confused and actually thinking of Horner's comment about the grapefruit smell?

Probably from the telly which tends to be hard to find as opposed to an article?

Yes albeit interesting comments usually get article coverage as well.

Maybe I should have posted as soon as I saw it said then the source would have been fresh for me to reference it, but I'm also aware of the likes of me posting such threads.

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I did not know where else to put this. Interesting stats as we get to this milestone GP:

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... stone-race

At the very bottom it is interesting to see the Mercedes domination in numbers. Nothing like it in the history of F1, 73% of the last 100 races won. Unreal

I would be guessing 2014-16 in particular would be the most dominant years?

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pokerman wrote:
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I did not know where else to put this. Interesting stats as we get to this milestone GP:

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... stone-race

At the very bottom it is interesting to see the Mercedes domination in numbers. Nothing like it in the history of F1, 73% of the last 100 races won. Unreal

I would be guessing 2014-16 in particular would be the most dominant years?

I guess so, the last 100 races would be the last 5 years or so.

So yes, including 2014-2016


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Siao7 wrote:
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I did not know where else to put this. Interesting stats as we get to this milestone GP:

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... stone-race

At the very bottom it is interesting to see the Mercedes domination in numbers. Nothing like it in the history of F1, 73% of the last 100 races won. Unreal

I would be guessing 2014-16 in particular would be the most dominant years?

I guess so, the last 100 races would be the last 5 years or so.

So yes, including 2014-2016


In terms of performance throughout the grid there has never been such stability. Williams the only team having a significant change across the last 5 seasons.


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Siao7 wrote:
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I did not know where else to put this. Interesting stats as we get to this milestone GP:

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... stone-race

At the very bottom it is interesting to see the Mercedes domination in numbers. Nothing like it in the history of F1, 73% of the last 100 races won. Unreal

I would be guessing 2014-16 in particular would be the most dominant years?

I guess so, the last 100 races would be the last 5 years or so.

So yes, including 2014-2016

Well I meant those years in particular somewhat enhance those figures but I guess even so as a 5 year run winning half the races each year would still be the most dominant period?

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mikeyg123 wrote:
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I did not know where else to put this. Interesting stats as we get to this milestone GP:

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... stone-race

At the very bottom it is interesting to see the Mercedes domination in numbers. Nothing like it in the history of F1, 73% of the last 100 races won. Unreal

I would be guessing 2014-16 in particular would be the most dominant years?

I guess so, the last 100 races would be the last 5 years or so.

So yes, including 2014-2016


In terms of performance throughout the grid there has never been such stability. Williams the only team having a significant change across the last 5 seasons.

No I would say just the last 3 years, Ferrari were poor in 2014 whilst Red Bull were poor in 2015, the only stable team has really been Mercedes.

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pokerman wrote:
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Siao7 wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
I did not know where else to put this. Interesting stats as we get to this milestone GP:

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... stone-race

At the very bottom it is interesting to see the Mercedes domination in numbers. Nothing like it in the history of F1, 73% of the last 100 races won. Unreal

I would be guessing 2014-16 in particular would be the most dominant years?

I guess so, the last 100 races would be the last 5 years or so.

So yes, including 2014-2016


In terms of performance throughout the grid there has never been such stability. Williams the only team having a significant change across the last 5 seasons.

No I would say just the last 3 years, Ferrari were poor in 2014 whilst Red Bull were poor in 2015, the only stable team has really been Mercedes.

Ferrari could pinpoint 2014 to a too-small turbo right at the beginning of the seasons but such were the rules that they couldn't do anything about it for a whole year. It's more a blip than any serious performance change


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Has there ever been a different 5 year period with only 3 different winning teams?

To put our current stability into context between 2009 - 2013 there were 9, 2004 - 2008 there were 7 etc


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mikeyg123 wrote:
Has there ever been a different 5 year period with only 3 different winning teams?

To put our current stability into context between 2009 - 2013 there were 9, 2004 - 2008 there were 7 etc


Doubtful, but that's just a function of increased reliability I guess rather than performance change. Apply the same levels to say 98-02 and you'd have much the same situation. Outside of Williams, McLaren and Ferrari you had a single Stewart win and a handful of Jordan wins, pretty much all due to the first three teams crashing out.


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pokerman wrote:
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I did not know where else to put this. Interesting stats as we get to this milestone GP:

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... stone-race

At the very bottom it is interesting to see the Mercedes domination in numbers. Nothing like it in the history of F1, 73% of the last 100 races won. Unreal

I would be guessing 2014-16 in particular would be the most dominant years?

I guess so, the last 100 races would be the last 5 years or so.

So yes, including 2014-2016


I did calculate last week Mercedes have had at least 1 car on the podium for 93% of races since 2014.

Thats nigh on 19/20, and essentially a full season.

In other words theres been what, 5 races in the last 5 and a bit years where the podium was Merc free.

That is an incredible stat, but not a good one for the sport.

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Weird season so far, Mercedes crushingly dominant here in qualifying where Ferrari's supposed extra grunt would see them cruising. So was Bahrain a blip?


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Weird season so far, Mercedes crushingly dominant here in qualifying where Ferrari's supposed extra grunt would see them cruising. So was Bahrain a blip?


3 tenths. That's a low bar for "crushingly dominant". Merc definitely better in quali pace. I'm looking forward to seeing how they manage the race.


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mikeyg123 wrote:
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Weird season so far, Mercedes crushingly dominant here in qualifying where Ferrari's supposed extra grunt would see them cruising. So was Bahrain a blip?


3 tenths. That's a low bar for "crushingly dominant". Merc definitely better in quali pace. I'm looking forward to seeing how they manage the race.

Is it, really? Both Mercs out of reach of the Ferraris. They might be able to make up a tenth or possibly even 2 tenths at a pinch but 3 tenths is pretty comprehensive. I'd say that makes it pretty comfortable for Mercedes in qualifying.


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Weird season so far, Mercedes crushingly dominant here in qualifying where Ferrari's supposed extra grunt would see them cruising. So was Bahrain a blip?


3 tenths. That's a low bar for "crushingly dominant". Merc definitely better in quali pace. I'm looking forward to seeing how they manage the race.

Is it, really? Both Mercs out of reach of the Ferraris. They might be able to make up a tenth or possibly even 2 tenths at a pinch but 3 tenths is pretty comprehensive. I'd say that makes it pretty comfortable for Mercedes in qualifying.


"Pretty comfortable" yes. If you use "Crushingly dominant" to describe a gap of 3 tenths then you're not leaving yourself much room if the gap gets bigger :lol:


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mikeyg123 wrote:
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Weird season so far, Mercedes crushingly dominant here in qualifying where Ferrari's supposed extra grunt would see them cruising. So was Bahrain a blip?


3 tenths. That's a low bar for "crushingly dominant". Merc definitely better in quali pace. I'm looking forward to seeing how they manage the race.

Is it, really? Both Mercs out of reach of the Ferraris. They might be able to make up a tenth or possibly even 2 tenths at a pinch but 3 tenths is pretty comprehensive. I'd say that makes it pretty comfortable for Mercedes in qualifying.


"Pretty comfortable" yes. If you use "Crushingly dominant" to describe a gap of 3 tenths then you're not leaving yourself much room if the gap gets bigger :lol:


Well as far as I'm concerned, half way through Q2 it looked like a nailed on 1-2 for Mercedes in qualifying despite Ham only getting a good lap in at the very end of that session.

Very easy for Mercedes. Yeah we can say it was just 3 tenths but to me this was very convincing indeed.


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mikeyg123 wrote:
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Weird season so far, Mercedes crushingly dominant here in qualifying where Ferrari's supposed extra grunt would see them cruising. So was Bahrain a blip?


3 tenths. That's a low bar for "crushingly dominant". Merc definitely better in quali pace. I'm looking forward to seeing how they manage the race.

Is it, really? Both Mercs out of reach of the Ferraris. They might be able to make up a tenth or possibly even 2 tenths at a pinch but 3 tenths is pretty comprehensive. I'd say that makes it pretty comfortable for Mercedes in qualifying.


"Pretty comfortable" yes. If you use "Crushingly dominant" to describe a gap of 3 tenths then you're not leaving yourself much room if the gap gets bigger :lol:

well, I guess I can downgrade to comfortable if we're doing a kind of Richter scale for dominance. :-P Just getting across that the gap was that big that it was out of the power of the drivers to overcome.


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Zoue wrote:
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Weird season so far, Mercedes crushingly dominant here in qualifying where Ferrari's supposed extra grunt would see them cruising. So was Bahrain a blip?


3 tenths. That's a low bar for "crushingly dominant". Merc definitely better in quali pace. I'm looking forward to seeing how they manage the race.

Is it, really? Both Mercs out of reach of the Ferraris. They might be able to make up a tenth or possibly even 2 tenths at a pinch but 3 tenths is pretty comprehensive. I'd say that makes it pretty comfortable for Mercedes in qualifying.


"Pretty comfortable" yes. If you use "Crushingly dominant" to describe a gap of 3 tenths then you're not leaving yourself much room if the gap gets bigger :lol:

well, I guess I can downgrade to comfortable if we're doing a kind of Richter scale for dominance. :-P Just getting across that the gap was that big that it was out of the power of the drivers to overcome.


I'm nit picking anyway tbh. It's just that I didn't watch quali but saw your post and thought Merc must have been about a second up the road :lol:


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It seems Ferrari have reliability issues, new CE in both cars this weekend of an older spec. The mystery of no pace in Australia before switching the engines up a Leclercs car failing. Now possibly turned back down?

This is th first time in 2019 I feel Mercedes look the best package for the titles though.


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mikeyg123 wrote:
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3 tenths. That's a low bar for "crushingly dominant". Merc definitely better in quali pace. I'm looking forward to seeing how they manage the race.

Is it, really? Both Mercs out of reach of the Ferraris. They might be able to make up a tenth or possibly even 2 tenths at a pinch but 3 tenths is pretty comprehensive. I'd say that makes it pretty comfortable for Mercedes in qualifying.


"Pretty comfortable" yes. If you use "Crushingly dominant" to describe a gap of 3 tenths then you're not leaving yourself much room if the gap gets bigger :lol:

well, I guess I can downgrade to comfortable if we're doing a kind of Richter scale for dominance. :-P Just getting across that the gap was that big that it was out of the power of the drivers to overcome.


I'm nit picking anyway tbh. It's just that I didn't watch quali but saw your post and thought Merc must have been about a second up the road :lol:

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It seems Ferrari have reliability issues, new CE in both cars this weekend of an older spec. The mystery of no pace in Australia before switching the engines up a Leclercs car failing. Now possibly turned back down?

This is th first time in 2019 I feel Mercedes look the best package for the titles though.

They're all over the place this season. It's still hard to make any predictions and the majority of us are completely lost now on the form book.

Regardless of the reason; Mercedes were definitely faster in qualifying in China. No question about it. We'll have to pay close attention to the race.


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Badgeronimous wrote:
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pokerman wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
I did not know where else to put this. Interesting stats as we get to this milestone GP:

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... stone-race

At the very bottom it is interesting to see the Mercedes domination in numbers. Nothing like it in the history of F1, 73% of the last 100 races won. Unreal

I would be guessing 2014-16 in particular would be the most dominant years?

I guess so, the last 100 races would be the last 5 years or so.

So yes, including 2014-2016


I did calculate last week Mercedes have had at least 1 car on the podium for 93% of races since 2014.

Thats nigh on 19/20, and essentially a full season.

In other words theres been what, 5 races in the last 5 and a bit years where the podium was Merc free.

That is an incredible stat, but not a good one for the sport.

The more damning stat came out during the Bahrain race weekend: there have been just 5 new race winners this decade. And one of those was Maldonado.


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Johnson wrote:
It seems Ferrari have reliability issues, new CE in both cars this weekend of an older spec. The mystery of no pace in Australia before switching the engines up a Leclercs car failing. Now possibly turned back down?

This is th first time in 2019 I feel Mercedes look the best package for the titles though.

:thumbup:

I'm getting the impression that Ferrari have the fastest car but they're unable to use it to its full potential, making the Mercedes the best car overall. It's a bit reminiscent of 2005.


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It seems Ferrari have reliability issues, new CE in both cars this weekend of an older spec. The mystery of no pace in Australia before switching the engines up a Leclercs car failing. Now possibly turned back down?

This is th first time in 2019 I feel Mercedes look the best package for the titles though.

:thumbup:

I'm getting the impression that Ferrari have the fastest car but they're unable to use it to its full potential, making the Mercedes the best car overall. It's a bit reminiscent of 2005.

I agree with you that if Ferrari have indeed turned their PU down then they do have the fastest car but cannot use it to its fullest potential. But since they are still claimed to be fastest by some margin on the straights, even while "holding back," this would suggest that the best car is in fact the Mercedes, while Ferrari look to have the best PU. But for Mercedes to be so much quicker in the twisty bits is quite impressive - what could they do with a Ferrari PU in the back? :twisted:


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Zoue wrote:
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It seems Ferrari have reliability issues, new CE in both cars this weekend of an older spec. The mystery of no pace in Australia before switching the engines up a Leclercs car failing. Now possibly turned back down?

This is th first time in 2019 I feel Mercedes look the best package for the titles though.

:thumbup:

I'm getting the impression that Ferrari have the fastest car but they're unable to use it to its full potential, making the Mercedes the best car overall. It's a bit reminiscent of 2005.

I agree with you that if Ferrari have indeed turned their PU down then they do have the fastest car but cannot use it to its fullest potential. But since they are still claimed to be fastest by some margin on the straights, even while "holding back," this would suggest that the best car is in fact the Mercedes, while Ferrari look to have the best PU. But for Mercedes to be so much quicker in the twisty bits is quite impressive - what could they do with a Ferrari PU in the back? :twisted:

I was also wondering after Bahrain if Ferrari's reported power advantage is primarily in their "qualifying" mode and that in race pace it's pretty close between them. Certainly Hamilton's race pace that day was not too shabby.


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j man wrote:
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j man wrote:
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It seems Ferrari have reliability issues, new CE in both cars this weekend of an older spec. The mystery of no pace in Australia before switching the engines up a Leclercs car failing. Now possibly turned back down?

This is th first time in 2019 I feel Mercedes look the best package for the titles though.

:thumbup:

I'm getting the impression that Ferrari have the fastest car but they're unable to use it to its full potential, making the Mercedes the best car overall. It's a bit reminiscent of 2005.

I agree with you that if Ferrari have indeed turned their PU down then they do have the fastest car but cannot use it to its fullest potential. But since they are still claimed to be fastest by some margin on the straights, even while "holding back," this would suggest that the best car is in fact the Mercedes, while Ferrari look to have the best PU. But for Mercedes to be so much quicker in the twisty bits is quite impressive - what could they do with a Ferrari PU in the back? :twisted:

I was also wondering after Bahrain if Ferrari's reported power advantage is primarily in their "qualifying" mode and that in race pace it's pretty close between them. Certainly Hamilton's race pace that day was not too shabby.

No I think in Bahrain Ferrari were clearly quickest both on Saturday and Sunday and the data supports that. Sure Hamilton still put up a solid fight but Bottas was absolutely nowhere. If Mercedes had strong pace, Valteri would have been up there too.

I do get the sense that this is a bit like 2005 as you suggest. It's entirely possible that Mercedes' reliability will be the determining element of this year's championship.


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j man wrote:
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I did not know where else to put this. Interesting stats as we get to this milestone GP:

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... stone-race

At the very bottom it is interesting to see the Mercedes domination in numbers. Nothing like it in the history of F1, 73% of the last 100 races won. Unreal

I would be guessing 2014-16 in particular would be the most dominant years?

I guess so, the last 100 races would be the last 5 years or so.

So yes, including 2014-2016


I did calculate last week Mercedes have had at least 1 car on the podium for 93% of races since 2014.

Thats nigh on 19/20, and essentially a full season.

In other words theres been what, 5 races in the last 5 and a bit years where the podium was Merc free.

That is an incredible stat, but not a good one for the sport.

The more damning stat came out during the Bahrain race weekend: there have been just 5 new race winners this decade. And one of those was Maldonado.


Yes, this is very worrying. With the increased reliability and big performance gap from the top three teams to the rest, there is rarely any incentive to change driver line-ups that much as even if they have an underperforming driver it won't be hurting their results that much so they can afford to keep the status quo more often from year-to-year, thus allowing less opportunities for newer drivers to break into the winning seats.


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Great decision from Ferrari to sack Arrivabene and give Binotto the job of both team principle and technical director. :uhoh:


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Beginning to look pretty ominous for Ferrari. Even with all the talk of straight line speed advantage, they weren't in the hunt this weekend at all. Wondering wether all the FW concept talk wasn't that far wide of the mark, and that the decision is already coming home to roost in the development stakes. If Mercedes have genuinely overhauled them so comprehensively on that front during the fly-aways, I only wonder what might be in store when we get back to Barcelona.

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Looking like Merc this year has the best chassis on the grid. It makes tons of downforce. Even in Bahrain where Ferrari was faster, Merc was still supreme in the corners. Ferrari is in trouble imo. Rosberg said in one of his vlogs that they went the wrong way with their philosophy, went for more efficiency instead of just pure downforce. So it's not going to be easy to change that. I can only hope RBR with their development pace can make this a close title race, but the way it's looking now; Merc might have this champiionship virtually wrapped up by the summer break and Hamilton will clinch the WDC around COTA again. I'm excited as a Hamilton fan, but this is not what the sport needed.


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Ferrari are descending into chaos kind of early this year. Usually they wait until after the break.

In terms of performance, Mercedes had them beat this weekend by a fairly comfortable margin. That's three straight races where one team seemed to comfortably be ahead of the other. I'm leaning towards Mercedes having the stronger overall package on the season; when you factor in reliability. Ferrari really seem to struggle to run their car at full beans reliably or perhaps their car is simply not great everywhere. Either way, it is bizarre to see them so strong in Bahrain only to be covered with ease the very next race.

It's interesting to note that Mercedes already brought a substantially different new front wing in this race. The development race is already a factor.


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Beginning to look pretty ominous for Ferrari. Even with all the talk of straight line speed advantage, they weren't in the hunt this weekend at all. Wondering wether all the FW concept talk wasn't that far wide of the mark, and that the decision is already coming home to roost in the development stakes. If Mercedes have genuinely overhauled them so comprehensively on that front during the fly-aways, I only wonder what might be in store when we get back to Barcelona.

To me it looks like the Ferraris are heavily detuned. They certainly didn't look like having blistering pace on the straights and e.g. Kimi couldn't do anything about Perez there either. I think they are having to hobble themselves as their reliability is pretty poor. Potentially good new for them is if they fix that they could be right in the game again


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For now it looks like Mercedes are quicker, more reliable, better strategically, less error prone drivers and already building a good buffer to Ferrari. This is looking like a Hamilton title so long as he can keep making decent starts and stays reliable.

Vettel can win the next 3 races and Hamilton just on the podium and will still lead the championship. Hamilton hasn’t even hit top form himself yet either. I get the feeling Ferrari won’t be back to anything near Bahrain form until they introduce engine 2. They seem crippled by something at the moment, it might be worth introducing engine 2 early before they lose too much ground. These engines are scheduled to do the first 6 races.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:21 am 
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I still think it's track dependent.
In the twisty slow corners Baku, Ferrari should have the advantage.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:42 am 
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I still think it's track dependent.
In the twisty slow corners Baku, Ferrari should have the advantage.


But didn't Merc have an advantage in the slower corners in Bahrain? I could be wrong but my impression was Ferrari's advantage there was on the straights.

And speaking of straights, Baku's has one huge straight and one that is a decent sized straight.


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j man wrote:
Badgeronimous wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
I did not know where else to put this. Interesting stats as we get to this milestone GP:

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... stone-race

At the very bottom it is interesting to see the Mercedes domination in numbers. Nothing like it in the history of F1, 73% of the last 100 races won. Unreal

I would be guessing 2014-16 in particular would be the most dominant years?

I guess so, the last 100 races would be the last 5 years or so.

So yes, including 2014-2016


I did calculate last week Mercedes have had at least 1 car on the podium for 93% of races since 2014.

Thats nigh on 19/20, and essentially a full season.

In other words theres been what, 5 races in the last 5 and a bit years where the podium was Merc free.

That is an incredible stat, but not a good one for the sport.

The more damning stat came out during the Bahrain race weekend: there have been just 5 new race winners this decade. And one of those was Maldonado.


Madonado, Max, Ricciardo, Rosberg, Webber? Did I get this right?


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I will make a bold prediction: Red Bull will not win a race this year.


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ReservoirDog wrote:
j man wrote:
Badgeronimous wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
pokerman wrote:
I would be guessing 2014-16 in particular would be the most dominant years?

I guess so, the last 100 races would be the last 5 years or so.

So yes, including 2014-2016


I did calculate last week Mercedes have had at least 1 car on the podium for 93% of races since 2014.

Thats nigh on 19/20, and essentially a full season.

In other words theres been what, 5 races in the last 5 and a bit years where the podium was Merc free.

That is an incredible stat, but not a good one for the sport.

The more damning stat came out during the Bahrain race weekend: there have been just 5 new race winners this decade. And one of those was Maldonado.


Madonado, Max, Ricciardo, Rosberg, Webber? Did I get this right?

Bottas. Webber's first win came in 2009.


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Mercedes, Ferrari and RBR.

Charles getting ahead of Vettel probably helped Max as he was holding Vettel and Max was gaining on both of them. The undercut was going to get one of the Ferrari for sure. Mercedes looked strong both in qualifying and race. I wonder where the Ferrari downforce disappeared where everyone were saying the car looks so planted to the track during testing ?

In Baku probably Ferrari will be strong with long straights but last year RBR driver crashed so it can happen to Ferrari this time and Mercedes can still get 1-2. Max was 14secs behind Vettel. They have to improve their car as Ferrari will probably always have the advantage on qualifying.

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