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I still can't quite fathom that Mercedes just out-Red-Bulled Red Bul


There was nothing RB could do though but pit first. Even if they pit the lap after they had lost 1st.

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Vettel pulled it off for a podium too - good work, didn't see that happening earlier.

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That was a great race, so much suspense.

4 quality races on the bounce now

Hamilton was class, 20 quali laps without a mistake.
Unlucky Max, Merc had snookered Redbull with that 2nd pitstop


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Renault 12th & 14th.

They're the laughing stock of the sport at the moment.

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I wonder how much Hamiltons amazing pace on the hards pushed Verstappens tyres, be interesting to find out.

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Take nothing away from Verstappen. Great effort.

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Quite a way to make up for last weekend Lewis!
Brilliant call by Merc. I didn't think it was going to work but Max's tires completely fell off so it was check mate indeed.
Ferrari got embarrassed. Their car had absolutely no pace here.
Both Mclarens should have beaten Gasly, but at least one did.
Lewis closing in on number 6. Unbelievable.


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Might sound odd right now, but I think this race was the day Max completely came of age. Totally professional message over the radio there, no playing silly *inaudible* when the game was up when Lewis caught him, and kept his head enough to maximise his points with FL at the end.

He's going to be the man who takes Hamilton's throne for sure, wether or not Lewis will need to retire for that to happen, we shall see.

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Might sound odd right now, but I think this race was the day Max completely came of age. Totally professional message over the radio there, no playing silly *inaudible* when the game was up when Lewis caught him, and kept his head enough to maximise his points with FL at the end.

He's going to be the man who takes Hamilton's throne for sure, wether or not Lewis will need to retire for that to happen, we shall see.


Thought the same about his radio message


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Fantastic drive from Lewis, it must be said.

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Hats off. Hamilton is still king


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Mercedes should have got 1-2 yesterday IMO and today they were obviously much faster as well. Max did great to make a race out of it. Ferrari were pathetic :-|

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Yeah great race

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Ruste13 wrote:
Danny Ric cant pass K Mag 😐


Kmag shows what a flog he is with over aggressive dble move blocking - all for 14th place !!
Kmag take a look at Verstappen and Lewis for 1st place. Take a leaf out of their book


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I wonder how much Hamiltons amazing pace on the hards pushed Verstappens tyres, be interesting to find out.

That's basically what happened plus the strategy worked because Hamilton basically was quicker.

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Hats off. Hamilton is still king


did you doubt him

There has been a lot of debate recently about Max being the best driver in the world. And today I think we can say... nearly but probably not yet

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Very candid chat there, I like it!

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tootsie323 wrote:
Have I just genuinely witnessed Mercedes pull off a bold strategy call?


No because they had nothing to lose.

If the Ferrari's had been closer and by pitting Hamilton an extra time it would have dropped him to 4th on the road with him having to pass the top three on track to win, then that would have been a bold strategy call.

Mercedes did the only reasonable and logical thing they could and don't deserve too much credit for doing so.


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Renault 12th & 14th.

They're the laughing stock of the sport at the moment.


Or Renault engine in 5th and 9th, need a new chassis!


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Mercedes did the only reasonable and logical thing they could and don't deserve too much credit for doing so.

Bollocks to that, it was an amazing strategy call

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Might sound odd right now, but I think this race was the day Max completely came of age. Totally professional message over the radio there, no playing silly *inaudible* when the game was up when Lewis caught him, and kept his head enough to maximise his points with FL at the end.

He's going to be the man who takes Hamilton's throne for sure, wether or not Lewis will need to retire for that to happen, we shall see.

Yes there is a definite change in him, today we saw a battle of legends.

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Some weekends it’s like Lewis and Max are driving completely different cars to their teammates.


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well done Merc. Surprised that RB didn't pull that trigger first

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shay550 wrote:
Some weekends it’s like Lewis and Max are driving completely different cars to their teammates.


In the case of Max it is every weekend bar Silverstone.

In the case of Lewis it is about half the weekends.


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Good strategy call and perfect execution on track. Well deserved win.

As for Red Bull, it says a lot that they're genuinely contending with Merc upfront, even if they didn't win today. Honda have had a huge hand to play. Three way works battle upfront if Ferrari can sort themselves out.


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Flash2k11 wrote:
Might sound odd right now, but I think this race was the day Max completely came of age. Totally professional message over the radio there, no playing silly *inaudible* when the game was up when Lewis caught him, and kept his head enough to maximise his points with FL at the end.

He's going to be the man who takes Hamilton's throne for sure, wether or not Lewis will need to retire for that to happen, we shall see.

:thumbup:

The only thing missing from Max's repertoire in the past has been the ability to accept a faster car overtaking him. I've little doubt that the Max of 2 years ago would've ended that race in a shower of carbon fibre.


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Some weekends it’s like Lewis and Max are driving completely different cars to their teammates.


In the case of Max it is every weekend bar Silverstone.

In the case of Lewis it is about half the weekends.


Yep, Gasly is definitely not at the level of Bottas.


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Hamilton and Verstappen made this a thriller. I feel a bit sorry for Max as he did everything he could and was just a passenger by the end. Pitting Hamilton for mediums seemd iffy but proved the right balance in the end.

The race really highlighted the failings of Gasly. He looked to have turned a corner at Silverstone, but his failure to stay within touching distance allowed Hamilton the free gamble that otherwise wouldn't have been there.


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Flash2k11 wrote:
Might sound odd right now, but I think this race was the day Max completely came of age. Totally professional message over the radio there, no playing silly *inaudible* when the game was up when Lewis caught him, and kept his head enough to maximise his points with FL at the end.

He's going to be the man who takes Hamilton's throne for sure, wether or not Lewis will need to retire for that to happen, we shall see.

Yes there is a definite change in him, today we saw a battle of legends.


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shay550 wrote:
Some weekends it’s like Lewis and Max are driving completely different cars to their teammates.

although given the circumstances, Bottas was far closer to Hamilton then Gasly was to Verstappen. Bottas fell right to the back, about 15 seconds behind last position. He made a mistake that will have dropped him to 4th or 5th at worst. leclerc basically ruined his race. But he finished less that 5 seconds behind Gasly. Bottas made a mistake that will have cost him a podium, but even with the bad luck he had, Gasly is looking significently worse than him. He had no reason for Bottas to be able to close right up on him from dead last with no safety car. There was barely any difference between the cars performance wise. Gasly has a serious issue. Far more than Bottas.


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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
shay550 wrote:
Some weekends it’s like Lewis and Max are driving completely different cars to their teammates.

although given the circumstances, Bottas was far closer to Hamilton then Gasly was to Verstappen. Bottas fell right to the back, about 15 seconds behind last position. He made a mistake that will have dropped him to 4th or 5th at worst. leclerc basically ruined his race. But he finished less that 5 seconds behind Gasly. Bottas made a mistake that will have cost him a podium, but even with the bad luck he had, Gasly is looking significently worse than him. He had no reason for Bottas to be able to close right up on him from dead last with no safety car. There was barely any difference between the cars performance wise. Gasly has a serious issue. Far more than Bottas.



I think it was striking how happy Bottas was yesterday to get in front of Lewis in second instead of lamenting losing pole position. The winning mentality is missing.


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well done Merc. Surprised that RB didn't pull that trigger first


Giving up the lead would have been stupid. Hamilton also had 5 lap fresher tyres and his tyres wouldn't have gone off with 5 laps to go. Max's went off with 5 laps to go. Mercedes was also just plane quicker so Verstappen wouldn't have been taking 1.2-1.5 seconds per lap it would have been more like 1.0-1.1.2

When you are quicker you can try something different like this. Max wasn't quicker, his only chance was doing what he did.


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Good to see you appreciate a great F1 Grand Prix F1 Racer, Red Bull were out though and out driven. Question is are they just good on the circuits that suit or have the overtaken Ferrari proper.

Ferrari were awful, out of touch after 5 laps, is their performance circuit related? In the results the car behind was a McLaren a long way back but who would have thought that?

Did Leclerc just give up or was he told to let SV through I wonder, seemed an odd pass with a podium at stake?


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Red Bull completely dropped the ball today with strategy. They had to pit before Lewis and just got complacent. Shameful.

Drive of the day from Lewis on the other hand. Those quali laps were mighty. He delivered when asked. Very Schumacher-esque.


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Great strategy from Mercedes, well done to whoever called that and a great drive from Hamilton to make it work. Bottas had a very scruffy start and he was always up against it then. If the rumours of his future being decided based on the last two races, he's in trouble.

Verstappen also drove a really good race but was beaten by a better strategy. His teammate, wow, only five points ahead of Sainz which is just embarrassing.

Speaking of Sainz he was won F1.5 four times in the last eight races. Norris seems to go backwards in races, not sure if that's bad luck but I think it might be a theme.

Ferrari were utterly woeful. Could be track specific, and they should be in their element come Spa and Monza.


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Red Bull completely dropped the ball today with strategy. They had to pit before Lewis and just got complacent. Shameful.

Drive of the day from Lewis on the other hand. Those quali laps were mighty. He delivered when asked. Very Schumacher-esque.


Merc would have kept Lewis out then and taken P1 with six laps newer tires. Horner said on Sky it would have been a massive call to pit Verstappen for a second stop from the lead.


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JN23 wrote:

Speaking of Sainz he was won F1.5 four times in the last eight races.


Sorry but what does this mean?

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Norris seems to go backwards in races, not sure if that's bad luck but I think it might be a theme.


Norris was destroyed by a 4 sec pit stop, I agree though he does lose places at the start.


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Red Bull completely dropped the ball today with strategy. They had to pit before Lewis and just got complacent. Shameful.


I don't know about that - it's a bit harsh in my opinion.

Remember how fast Lewis caught Max before he was pitted it was like he was teleported to the back of Max's car from nowhere!

Pitting Max then would have handed it to Lewis on a platter. In the end, at least Lewis had to work for that one (those laps were just incredible).

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Speaking of Sainz he was won F1.5 four times in the last eight races.


Sorry but what does this mean?


If you exclude the top three teams, he's been the highest finisher.

F1.5 because the rest are so far behind the top three teams (excluding Gasly)

Edit: although, maybe Vettel won F1.5 today because he Ferrari were so far behind :twisted:


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