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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:42 pm 
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Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
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Maybe Stroll is serious about the investment. He knows no top team will hire his son, so he needs to provide him with a competitive car himself.


I think if he is actually serious about winning his son will have to become collateral damage.



He is serious about making his son a winner. That's the one and only goal. All else is fan Illusion.


I don't know. I thought that. Then Perez, who is no fool, signed a 4 year contract.


Yes, a good driver teacher. Success takes time.


Perez wouldn't have signed a 4 year contract to teach Stroll. That's my point. He's pretty well funded himself.[/quote]

Well, it still may be his best chance for a competitive drive.


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Maybe Stroll is serious about the investment. He knows no top team will hire his son, so he needs to provide him with a competitive car himself.


I think if he is actually serious about winning his son will have to become collateral damage.

An Alonso/Perez line up could go places.


He is serious about making his son a winner. That's the one and only goal. All else is fan Illusion.

It's true he wants to give his son every possible chance to succeed but ultimately he's a petrol head, he loves racing and I've no doubt he loves owning a F1 team, I don't think it lives and dies on the need for his son to be one of the drivers?


I am sure it is his sole motivation.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:46 pm 
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This all has placed well for Perez. He was sadly sidelined after that 1 year in McLaren. Looks like he will now get a car that can truly demonstrate how strong he is as a racer. Real happy for Perez. Also I wonder if he knew this was going to happen before he signed a multi year deal?


Aston Martin is not exactly in the shape for big investments into F1.


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Anybody who thinks that stroll spent 100s of millions just to give his kid a ride needs to give their head a real good shake. He's a billionaire for a good reason. That's like saying he invested in the fashion industry so his son would dress better


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Anybody who thinks that stroll spent 100s of millions just to give his kid a ride needs to give their head a real good shake. He's a billionaire for a good reason. That's like saying he invested in the fashion industry so his son would dress better


The comparison is nonsense. He invested in fashion to earn money. He will never earn money in F1.

Believe what you want and be as naive as you want. Time will show that I am right.


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pokerman wrote:
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mikeyg123 wrote:
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Maybe Stroll is serious about the investment. He knows no top team will hire his son, so he needs to provide him with a competitive car himself.


I think if he is actually serious about winning his son will have to become collateral damage.

An Alonso/Perez line up could go places.


He is serious about making his son a winner. That's the one and only goal. All else is fan Illusion.

It's true he wants to give his son every possible chance to succeed but ultimately he's a petrol head, he loves racing and I've no doubt he loves owning a F1 team, I don't think it lives and dies on the need for his son to be one of the drivers?


I am sure it is his sole motivation.


Mate, if this is true that it's sad. It's not as if his son is racing in PS4 F1 2019 game where can be equipped with certain aids to make him consistent & faster. So what if Lance di win a few titles in his junior career, it doesn't mean he'll flourish in F1. Hulkenberg & Vandoorne are the best examples to prove my point here.

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Anybody who thinks that stroll spent 100s of millions just to give his kid a ride needs to give their head a real good shake. He's a billionaire for a good reason. That's like saying he invested in the fashion industry so his son would dress better


The comparison is nonsense. He invested in fashion to earn money. He will never earn money in F1.

Believe what you want and be as naive as you want. Time will show that I am right.

I was reading that in return for Stroll's investment into Aston Martin they will paying so much sponsorship per year into the F1 team, the level of which will cover Stroll's investment after 5 years and the contract is for 10 years, I think you might be being a bit naive in not thinking this might not be a shrewd business arrangement by Lawrence Stroll?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:56 pm 
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pokerman wrote:
Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
spiritone wrote:
Anybody who thinks that stroll spent 100s of millions just to give his kid a ride needs to give their head a real good shake. He's a billionaire for a good reason. That's like saying he invested in the fashion industry so his son would dress better


The comparison is nonsense. He invested in fashion to earn money. He will never earn money in F1.

Believe what you want and be as naive as you want. Time will show that I am right.

I was reading that in return for Stroll's investment into Aston Martin they will paying so much sponsorship per year into the F1 team, the level of which will cover Stroll's investment after 5 years and the contract is for 10 years, I think you might be being a bit naive in not thinking this might not be a shrewd business arrangement by Lawrence Stroll?


I am skeptical but even then Stroll does not earn money since it is invested in order to perform/win.

People here are reacting as if with Aston Martin an automobile giant is entering the stage. AM will be happy to still exist in 10 years.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:46 pm 
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Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
spiritone wrote:
Anybody who thinks that stroll spent 100s of millions just to give his kid a ride needs to give their head a real good shake. He's a billionaire for a good reason. That's like saying he invested in the fashion industry so his son would dress better


The comparison is nonsense. He invested in fashion to earn money. He will never earn money in F1.

Believe what you want and be as naive as you want. Time will show that I am right.

I was reading that in return for Stroll's investment into Aston Martin they will paying so much sponsorship per year into the F1 team, the level of which will cover Stroll's investment after 5 years and the contract is for 10 years, I think you might be being a bit naive in not thinking this might not be a shrewd business arrangement by Lawrence Stroll?


I am skeptical but even then Stroll does not earn money since it is invested in order to perform/win.

People here are reacting as if with Aston Martin an automobile giant is entering the stage. AM will be happy to still exist in 10 years.

Stroll is very savvy, it's true he spent a lot of money on his son's career but as far as the F1 team is concerned he gets external sources to sponsor the team and doesn't spend the kind of money some may think he might spend.

I'm not sure who's opinions these are of Aston Martin, I for one are of the understanding that their contribution will be £30M per year for 10 years so it's reasonable sponsorship but not what like we see with the likes of Mercedes and Ferrari.

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Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
spiritone wrote:
Anybody who thinks that stroll spent 100s of millions just to give his kid a ride needs to give their head a real good shake. He's a billionaire for a good reason. That's like saying he invested in the fashion industry so his son would dress better


The comparison is nonsense. He invested in fashion to earn money. He will never earn money in F1.

Believe what you want and be as naive as you want. Time will show that I am right.

I was reading that in return for Stroll's investment into Aston Martin they will paying so much sponsorship per year into the F1 team, the level of which will cover Stroll's investment after 5 years and the contract is for 10 years, I think you might be being a bit naive in not thinking this might not be a shrewd business arrangement by Lawrence Stroll?


I am skeptical but even then Stroll does not earn money since it is invested in order to perform/win.

People here are reacting as if with Aston Martin an automobile giant is entering the stage. AM will be happy to still exist in 10 years.

I wouldn't call AM a Giant in the automobile industry. They are a niche luxury sports car brand, but that's as far as it goes. It's a fact that AM have found themselves circling the drain multiple times only for someone to place the drain plug right before they disappear into the abyss. Today they're in a slightly better position financially, but that's thanks in great part to the orders of the Valkyrie, but that's not enough to sustain themselves long term, and I suspect Stroll will promote and help grow the brand properly and maybe they can produce complete cars of their own design.

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