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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:09 pm 
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Vettel for advertising, Hamilton for that HAM slang

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:12 pm 
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Was just about to make the same thread, mainly because I'm interested in the reasoning for Vettel having to modify his helmet. Supposedly it's because Bernie doesn't want there to be advertising on the top of the helmet ("Gives you wings") but then what about "Head and Shoulders" on Senna's helmet, and "TOTAL" on Grosjean's helmet, just to name a few. Is there a difference. I'd love to know, if someone would kindly explain.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:13 pm 
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Yep, posted it about half an hour ago in the podium interviews topic.

Hamilton's for swearing, Vettel's for sponsorship on the top (not allowed).

I now await all the Hamilton fans who criticised Seb for swearing on the podium to give Lewis similar criticism.

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scuderia_stevie wrote:

I now await all the Hamilton fans who criticised Seb for swearing on the podium to give Lewis similar criticism.


And for all the Vettel fans who defended Seb to now defend Hamilton? :-P


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Misinformed wrote:
Was just about to make the same thread, mainly because I'm interested in the reasoning for Vettel having to modify his helmet. Supposedly it's because Bernie doesn't want there to be advertising on the top of the helmet ("Gives you wings") but then what about "Head and Shoulders" on Senna's helmet, and "TOTAL" on Grosjean's helmet, just to name a few. Is there a difference. I'd love to know, if someone would kindly explain.

Good point. Bernie?

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scuderia_stevie wrote:
Yep, posted it about half an hour ago in the podium interviews topic.

Hamilton's for swearing, Vettel's for sponsorship on the top (not allowed).

I now await all the Hamilton fans who criticised Seb for swearing on the podium to give Lewis similar criticism.


Not the smartest thing to do, but how many people were watching the podium interview vs how many noticed Lewis' new helmet, didn't attribute it to his surname and looked it up?


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scuderia_stevie wrote:
I now await all the Hamilton fans who criticised Seb for swearing on the podium to give Lewis similar criticism.


Completely different circumstances I feel. Vettel actually swore, and so was direct. Hamilton donned an acronym, something that was indirect, an implication as such, and was never actually proven to mean what is suggested. He hasn't done anything wrong. At this point, he only has to remove "H.A.M" based on speculation by the FIA.

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Doesn't Senna have a big gillette razor on his?

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scuderia_stevie wrote:
Yep, posted it about half an hour ago in the podium interviews topic.

Hamilton's for swearing, Vettel's for sponsorship on the top (not allowed).

I now await all the Hamilton fans who criticised Seb for swearing on the podium to give Lewis similar criticism.


(note: I'm not a Hamilton or Vettel fan...or a Kimi one for that matter - so dont start with the fanboy crap in your reply please)

Here's how I see it:

- Vettel actually swore on camera to millions of people.
- 90+% of viewers would have thought 'H.A.M' on 'HAMiltons helmet, was meant to mean HAM as in Hamilton. I for one had no idea that it was street slang.

So whilst Hamilton is swearing, only people who are familiar with street slang are going to know, and those people really wont care.

Sorry, but for me Vettel's childish little 1up on Kimi was still a lot more pathetic.

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Johnston wrote:
Doesn't Senna have a big gillette razor on his?

That's what I thought, but I swear I saw him back to his old style helmet in FP3 and Qualifying.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:24 pm 
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scuderia_stevie wrote:
I now await all the Hamilton fans who criticised Seb for swearing on the podium to give Lewis similar criticism.


What about us Hamilton fans that defended Vettel? Not all of us have the minds of 4 year-olds, you know.


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hamilton shouldn't have put such an adult slang on his helmet , give him a race ban

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RebellionLola wrote:
hamilton shouldn't have put such an adult slang on his helmet , give him a race ban


By that logic:

Kimi and Vettel shouldn't have sworn on the podium - give them 2 race bans.

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Ban FOM for using Slang on timing screens :lol:

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RebellionLola wrote:
hamilton shouldn't have put such an adult slang on his helmet , give him a race ban

Tongue in cheek, surely?

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Johnston wrote:
Ban FOM for using Slang on timing screens :lol:

lol

just modify hamilton's on-screen to star it out:

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Who cares. So few people will ever notice, compared to a podium presentation.

I couldn't care less whether Vettel swore on the podium...it's just that it was so obvious that he was copying Kimi, trying to outdo him, and it failed dismally. Made him look like an donkey. At least Kimi's words are genuine / from the heart (if he has one :lol: )...

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RickM wrote:
Johnston wrote:
Ban FOM for using Slang on timing screens :lol:

lol

just modify hamilton's on-screen to star it out:

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Damn. If it weren't for those big "Gulf Air" signs we could have engaged in a fun game of 'Spot the venue.'

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I know the track and the year, and also the turn, but who else does?
It's not the first thing which might occur! :)


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Muulka wrote:
I know the track and the year, and also the turn, but who else does?
It's not the first thing which might occur! :)


Well it looks like Turkey 2010.


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Silly. "Gives you wings" is only centimeters from the Pepe Jeans logos which have been in place for years. The top of Senna's helmet is a damn razor, how can that be any different?

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I had no Idea what it meant,. but this seems to be a slippery slope


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fia

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Hamilton knew what he was doing, 'H.A.M' is a song by Jay-Z and Kanye West that clearly states the meaning of the abbreviation but doesn't Valentino Rossi have initials that mean 'Long Live treat' all over his helmet and overalls? and Rossi gets away with it :?

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He put HAM on his helmet? Why the heck who he do that? He tweeted it in Spa and had to remove it, so why would he put it on his helmet now?

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Johnston wrote:
Ban FOM for using Slang on timing screens :lol:


Just what I was thinking too.. :lol:

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RaisinChips wrote:
Johnston wrote:
Ban FOM for using Slang on timing screens :lol:


Just what I was thinking too.. :lol:


Yes, I just googled some. JEV? etc

Maybe someone who has the parlance can give us a full rundown :]

I did wonder how they got Many Small Children in one car

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I am surprised Eccelstone has banned helmet advertising, would have thought he'd be a big fan so long as he much a few bucks out of it.


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