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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:47 pm 
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WJF1 wrote:
sultanofhyd some people bet money for results. Now if teams are pretty much allowed to do things like this, i and many other people are getting really angry. Ofc i know that Massa isn't allowed to drive ahead of Alonso but still this will make my other bets really hard to be possible.

You think this is ok, but it's not.


LOL. FiA should look into it because some people have bet money. Thanks for the laugh


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sultanofhyd some people bet money for results. Now if teams are pretty much allowed to do things like this, i and many other people are getting really angry. Ofc i know that Massa isn't allowed to drive ahead of Alonso but still this will make my other bets really hard to be possible.

You think this is ok, but it's not.


LOL. FiA should look into it because some people have bet money. Thanks for the laugh


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:49 pm 
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I hope Alonso DNF in first corner, you mess with karma too many times it will hit back hard. Poor Massa, really how many bullets he is taking for the team this year?

I hope that Red Bull won't do same thing to Webber.

Far less than the bullets Ferrari has taken due to his performance. BTW it was 1 bullet this year, thats it ;)
Sucks for him, but he has nothing to complain. He is out of WDC, he is out of contention for anything basically. He has one job, support the team to win WDC. He has been rewarded already for that by having a seat next year.


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This is why I can never bring myself to like Alonso and Ferrari, even though two of my favorite drivers (Schumi and Kimi) drove for Ferrari. Here's hoping Alonso gets wiped out in Turn 1 and Massa goes on to finish on the podium.



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I agree... Alonso is the only driver on the grid who can demand the other driver move over for him even race 1 of the year


Alonso finished one position Massa in the first few races of 2010, Massa never moved over. Those points cost him the championship.

So why don't you guys cut out the bullshit and realize that Schumacher, Raikkonen, Vettel and Hamilton have gained far more than Alonso due to team orders?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:50 pm 
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I hear via good source that Ferrari will indeed go for the Massa penalty. All they have to do is break the seal, not change 'box

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:53 pm 
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Did Massa get a penalty, cant see it anywhere in the net. :?


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There is nothing in F1's rules that prevents a team from changing a car's gearbox for sporting reasons. However, if Ferrari were to make the change, the FIA might look at the situation and decide to retain the current grid.


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There is nothing in F1's rules that prevents a team from changing a car's gearbox for sporting reasons. However, if Ferrari were to make the change, the FIA might look at the situation and decide to retain the current grid.


No such thing is going to happen, the FIA don't have that power.

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lol at least they arent trying to pretend there's a problem with it

I don't love this sort of thing. Been trying to decide how i'd feel if "my" team did it, and I think I'd be a little disappointed. Casts such an ugly shadow on the championship - if this keeps Alo in the hunt, and he wins it, there will allows be a figurative asterisk on the result.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:56 pm 
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It is done:

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#F1 Had it confirmed: Ferrari broke seal on @Felipe1Massa's gearbox so a penalty should result!

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sultanofhyd wrote:
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There is nothing in F1's rules that prevents a team from changing a car's gearbox for sporting reasons. However, if Ferrari were to make the change, the FIA might look at the situation and decide to retain the current grid.


No such thing is going to happen, the FIA don't have that power.

Scarbs says they have the power to put Felipe on the pit lane and NOT shuffle the grid up a spot, if they want to. I havent read the rule, but I trust Scarbs knows his sh*t.

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lol at least they arent trying to pretend there's a problem with it

I don't love this sort of thing. Been trying to decide how i'd feel if "my" team did it, and I think I'd be a little disappointed. Casts such an ugly shadow on the championship - if this keeps Alo in the hunt, and he wins it, there will allows be a figurative asterisk on the result.


All Alonso wins and championships have an asterisk on this forum, don't you realize he is the Antichrist?

But the 2007 and 2008 championships have no asterisk, obviously.

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A2jdl wrote:
There is nothing in F1's rules that prevents a team from changing a car's gearbox for sporting reasons. However, if Ferrari were to make the change, the FIA might look at the situation and decide to retain the current grid.

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ashley313 wrote:
sultanofhyd wrote:
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There is nothing in F1's rules that prevents a team from changing a car's gearbox for sporting reasons. However, if Ferrari were to make the change, the FIA might look at the situation and decide to retain the current grid.


No such thing is going to happen, the FIA don't have that power.

Scarbs says they have the power to put Felipe on the pit lane and NOT shuffle the grid up a spot, if they want to. I havent read the rule, but I trust Scarbs knows his sh*t.


No they can't.

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sgt.hartman wrote:
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Adam Cooper @adamcooperf1
#F1 Had it confirmed: Ferrari broke seal on @Felipe1Massa's gearbox so a penalty should result!


Let's wait for Red Bull's response.


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Had it confirmed: Ferrari broke seal on @Felipe1Massa's gearbox so a penalty should result!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:01 pm 
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If it's official that the seal on Massa's gearbox was broken, it's hilarious!

Ferrari : "We demand a penalty!!"
Red Bull : "Noooooooo!!!"

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they did not even change the gearbox... all they had to do was break the seal and the FIA let them take the penalty. I prefer my Champion contender beat his teammate on track not ask him to take 5 gridder


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Three minutes ago:

Fernando Alonso @alo_oficial
Terminada la reunión estrategia! Ahora a comer algo y preparar últimos detalles Finished strategy meeting! Now lunch and last preparations

LOOOOOOOOOOOL. He and Bernie are the best trolls in F1.

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Its cheating. simple as.


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Abe. wrote:
Its cheating. simple as.


Care to corroborate that with a line from the rule book?

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ReservoirDog wrote:
sgt.hartman wrote:
It is done:

Adam Cooper @adamcooperf1
#F1 Had it confirmed: Ferrari broke seal on @Felipe1Massa's gearbox so a penalty should result!


Let's wait for Red Bull's response.


I think the more important thing is

Let's wait for FIA's response


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they did not even change the gearbox... all they had to do was break the seal and the FIA let them take the penalty. I prefer my Champion contender beat his teammate on track not ask him to take 5 gridder


Do you prefer your contender's teammate going in for an unscheduled pitstop to avoid blocking him?

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This is why I can never bring myself to like Alonso and Ferrari, even though two of my favorite drivers (Schumi and Kimi) drove for Ferrari. Here's hoping Alonso gets wiped out in Turn 1 and Massa goes on to finish on the podium.



:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

I agree... Alonso is the only driver on the grid who can demand the other driver move over for him even race 1 of the year


Alonso finished one position Massa in the first few races of 2010, Massa never moved over. Those points cost him the championship.

So why don't you guys cut out the bullshit and realize that Schumacher, Raikkonen, Vettel and Hamilton have gained far more than Alonso due to team orders?


yes to Schumacher. You are lying to yourself to think Vettel, Kimi and Hamilton have. Alonso has had teammates move over for him every year on the grid except Hamilton who would not go for it.

Massa has moved for Alonso several times and today is another one of those. Let me know when Webber moved for Vettel or took a 5 gridder. Ferrari are PATHETIC, I hope Alonso gets punted


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I so want RB to do the same thing for Webber, that would be hilarious. Whilst I agree Felipe should help Fernando, this isnt in the spirit of the sport- not that there is much spirit left these days unfortunately

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Not different from RBR's (loop)holes in Monaco/Canada.

I won't be too surprised if Felipe actually benefits from that given how dirty is the track on the other side.


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Hakkattack wrote:
sultanofhyd wrote:
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This is why I can never bring myself to like Alonso and Ferrari, even though two of my favorite drivers (Schumi and Kimi) drove for Ferrari. Here's hoping Alonso gets wiped out in Turn 1 and Massa goes on to finish on the podium.



:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

I agree... Alonso is the only driver on the grid who can demand the other driver move over for him even race 1 of the year


Alonso finished one position Massa in the first few races of 2010, Massa never moved over. Those points cost him the championship.

So why don't you guys cut out the bullshit and realize that Schumacher, Raikkonen, Vettel and Hamilton have gained far more than Alonso due to team orders?


yes to Schumacher. You are lying to yourself to think Vettel, Kimi and Hamilton have. Alonso has had teammates move over for him every year on the grid except Hamilton who would not go for it.

Massa has moved for Alonso several times and today is another one of those. Let me know when Webber moved for Vettel or took a 5 gridder. Ferrari are PATHETIC, I hope Alonso gets punted


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:09 pm 
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sultanofhyd wrote:
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they did not even change the gearbox... all they had to do was break the seal and the FIA let them take the penalty. I prefer my Champion contender beat his teammate on track not ask him to take 5 gridder


Do you prefer your contender's teammate going in for an unscheduled pitstop to avoid blocking him?

or telling your team mate dont fight him, .... or hold your position.. or give me your wing...
they all do it.. its a team sport some people seem to forget.


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sgt.hartman wrote:
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Its cheating. simple as.


Care to corroborate that with a line from the rule book?


Will see what the official outcome is. But we all know it eh.
Still I hope Alonso has a good race, on merit.


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It's not cheating... it is simply pathetic that is all...


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Ferrari will get what they deserve out of this


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Hakkattack wrote:
It's not cheating... it is simply pathetic that is all...


But less pathetic than what Red Bull have done, even what Ferrari themselves have done with Kimi, right?

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I rarely watch the build up to the races, but I'm definitely watching the build up to this one.

Vettel: "We're racing Massa".

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Ferrari really have a talent for tainting a championship. This leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I don't know if Alonso was directly involved in the suggestion, but if he was, why does he feel so entitled that he can't even pass his teammate on track. Ferrari and Alonso cannot bear for another Ferrari driver to beat Alonso.


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Was removing a car from Parc Ferme to change set up cheating?

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Hakkattack wrote:
It's not cheating... it is simply pathetic that is all...

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sultanofhyd wrote:
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sultanofhyd wrote:
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This is why I can never bring myself to like Alonso and Ferrari, even though two of my favorite drivers (Schumi and Kimi) drove for Ferrari. Here's hoping Alonso gets wiped out in Turn 1 and Massa goes on to finish on the podium.



:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

I agree... Alonso is the only driver on the grid who can demand the other driver move over for him even race 1 of the year


Alonso finished one position Massa in the first few races of 2010, Massa never moved over. Those points cost him the championship.

So why don't you guys cut out the bullshit and realize that Schumacher, Raikkonen, Vettel and Hamilton have gained far more than Alonso due to team orders?


yes to Schumacher. You are lying to yourself to think Vettel, Kimi and Hamilton have. Alonso has had teammates move over for him every year on the grid except Hamilton who would not go for it.

Massa has moved for Alonso several times and today is another one of those. Let me know when Webber moved for Vettel or took a 5 gridder. Ferrari are PATHETIC, I hope Alonso gets punted


2 weeks ago.


Agree that Webber had to move over for Seb, so why not Massa for Alonso? Besides, it is legal now. This however is a unique situation, not wrong on Ferrari's part, but certainly "inventive". I hope Ferrari fans stop criticizing other teams when they make similar "inventive" decisions. This is how it's going to be from now on.


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I really was prepared to accept Alonso winning the championship instead of Vettel but this just makes them seem like a desperate boxer in the corner of the ring.


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It's not Massa moving for Alonso. Is Massa and Alonso get on the clean side. I am 100% sure that they would not do this if both of them were on the clean side of the grid yesterday.


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