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What would you like to happen? (Select upto 2 options )
Dry dry dry 12%  12%  [ 25 ]
Rain in qualifying spicing up the grid. 13%  13%  [ 28 ]
Rain in race from the start to end. 25%  25%  [ 53 ]
Dry start but wet end. 5%  5%  [ 11 ]
Wet start on drying track. 9%  9%  [ 19 ]
Start and stop rain throughout the race. 35%  35%  [ 73 ]
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Oh I do hope for rain. Although I'd rather Vettel win the championship, I do love a wet race. Hopefully will spice things up a bit

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I wouldn't mind a Hamilton win, with JB second (First 1-2 of the season) with Schumi 3rd.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:10 pm 
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So rain still predicted for Sunday. hope not to much they can't race tho.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:08 pm 
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The forecast changed to no rain for quali and moderated rain for sunday


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:14 pm 
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Looks like the rain is getting to Sao Paulo a lot slower than was projected yesterday. I'd say there's a very high chance of a dry weekend looking at the bigger picture. Plays straight into Vettel's hands.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:09 pm 
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BBC think it will rain although they have been wrong before

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/3448439

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:09 pm 
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BBC think it will rain although they have been wrong before

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/3448439

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If it rains, we'll probably all end up on here moaning as either the race was stopped (until it was dry enough for intermediates), or the cars follow the SC round the track for lap after lap!


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looks dry for sure until Sunday


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Normally I'd wish for a wet race but not for the finale. Deciding the WDC shouldn't be a lottery.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:11 am 
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Covalent wrote:
Normally I'd wish for a wet race but not for the finale. Deciding the WDC shouldn't be a lottery.


The wet doesn't mean it'll be a lottery. It evens the playing field so, disregarding any major strategic errors, it shows the true abilities of the respective championship contenders. If it's torrential then, yes, it can become a bit of a lottery - but if a title contender crashes out in a bit of rain and the other doesn't, it's his own fault and the other has driven better.

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Toby. wrote:
Covalent wrote:
Normally I'd wish for a wet race but not for the finale. Deciding the WDC shouldn't be a lottery.


The wet doesn't mean it'll be a lottery. It evens the playing field so, disregarding any major strategic errors, it shows the true abilities of the respective championship contenders. If it's torrential then, yes, it can become a bit of a lottery - but if a title contender crashes out in a bit of rain and the other doesn't, it's his own fault and the other has driven better.

So if there's a pile up in the first corner and Vettel or Alonso is taken out by no fault of his own, it's still his own fault?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:10 am 
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Covalent wrote:
Toby. wrote:
Covalent wrote:
Normally I'd wish for a wet race but not for the finale. Deciding the WDC shouldn't be a lottery.


The wet doesn't mean it'll be a lottery. It evens the playing field so, disregarding any major strategic errors, it shows the true abilities of the respective championship contenders. If it's torrential then, yes, it can become a bit of a lottery - but if a title contender crashes out in a bit of rain and the other doesn't, it's his own fault and the other has driven better.

So if there's a pile up in the first corner and Vettel or Alonso is taken out by no fault of his own, it's still his own fault?

That doesn't really have anything to do with the weather.

See Spa 2012.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:10 am 
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This is a quite accurate weather site.

looks like a drama on sunday.
Dry on friday and saturday

http://www.ilmeteo.it/meteo-america/San+Paolo?c=31649


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:32 am 
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just taking an objective view - I'd prefer a wet race.
This is because I think both drivers have done enough to win - and in effect, if it is a wet race, it will be down to the drivers skill (barring being punted off) that will define the outcome. Surely that is a fitting end? It is a bit unfortunate that Seb has a decent lead, as he can probably relax a little and not push quite so hard. But if Alonso wins the race after driving balls out in the wet, that would be a memorable achievement, would it not?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:04 pm 
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nate wrote:
Here's what will happen:

Quali is wet. Alonso takes a superb pole, while Vettel has alternator problems in Q3 and starts from P10.

The start of the race is just as wet. Alonso pulls away from Hamilton and the rest at the front, while Vettel struggles to make his way through the pack in the slippery conditions to the required P4. He's up to P5 and hunting down Button for the place that will secure the title. They're coming up to lap Karthikeyan, oh and he's hit the back of him! Vettel's into the wall and DNF!

Alonso looks to have the championship in the bag. He's miles ahead. What a true champion!

Then, all of a sudden, the rain intensifies. It's far too wet and the safety car has to be called upon. The weather intensifies some more, and now drivers can't even keep their cars in a straight line behind the safety car! The organisers have no choice but to bring out the red flags!

It's a long wait for the drivers. But it looks as though this torrential rain has settled in. It's beginning to get dark as well, not at all conditions suited to racing F1 cars. That's it, the result is declared. Half points will be awarded, with Alonso picking up 12.5 for the win.

Final championship standings:
Alonso 272.5
Vettel 273

Vettel is triple world champion

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Would love that to happen.
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mcdo wrote:
Covalent wrote:
Toby. wrote:
Covalent wrote:
Normally I'd wish for a wet race but not for the finale. Deciding the WDC shouldn't be a lottery.


The wet doesn't mean it'll be a lottery. It evens the playing field so, disregarding any major strategic errors, it shows the true abilities of the respective championship contenders. If it's torrential then, yes, it can become a bit of a lottery - but if a title contender crashes out in a bit of rain and the other doesn't, it's his own fault and the other has driven better.

So if there's a pile up in the first corner and Vettel or Alonso is taken out by no fault of his own, it's still his own fault?

That doesn't really have anything to do with the weather.

See Spa 2012.

I'm pretty sure the described scenario is more probable in the wet, which was kind of my point.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:51 pm 
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First corner pile ups happen; that is racing.

If it is wet, it very will could make the finale really awesome.

And if it doesn't and Vettel or Alonso get taken out....well, that's racing.

Bring on the rain! :)

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Covalent wrote:
mcdo wrote:
Covalent wrote:
Toby. wrote:
Covalent wrote:
Normally I'd wish for a wet race but not for the finale. Deciding the WDC shouldn't be a lottery.


The wet doesn't mean it'll be a lottery. It evens the playing field so, disregarding any major strategic errors, it shows the true abilities of the respective championship contenders. If it's torrential then, yes, it can become a bit of a lottery - but if a title contender crashes out in a bit of rain and the other doesn't, it's his own fault and the other has driven better.

So if there's a pile up in the first corner and Vettel or Alonso is taken out by no fault of his own, it's still his own fault?

That doesn't really have anything to do with the weather.

See Spa 2012.

I'm pretty sure the described scenario is more probable in the wet, which was kind of my point.


The fact it's the last race is irrelevant...if there'd been a 'lottery' in race 2 of the season the points would have been worth the same. ;)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:29 pm 
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Forecast has settled in rain beginning at Saturday afternoon, so we should have a dry quali and wet race


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Deep_blue wrote:
Forecast has settled in rain beginning at Saturday afternoon, so we should have a dry quali and wet race

Should have all the main players up near the front for the race then, everyone gets a even footing to start on. Game on!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:09 am 
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Just checked the BBC which indicates rain before quali...


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:16 am 
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It has some chance of light rain during quali and very high probability of rain on Sunday from 10am to 6pm


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skies were very dark at the end of the Practice 3.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:42 pm 
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Slimy, slippery ectoplasm rained down by the ghost of Senna wherever Red Bull has an advantage.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:29 pm 
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...and here it is!


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Rain forecast for tonight, stopping in the morning and restarting again at 1pm just in time for the race, beginning light and intensifying, so probably we'll see a first stint in intermediates, switching to full wets later


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Fingers crossed we don't get a start behind the safety car.


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cjf1 wrote:
Fingers crossed we don't get a start behind the safety car.

Couldn't agree more - I'm not a fan of the drivers following a safety car 'cos of rain...

But as I'm not particularly bothered who wins the WDC, I've finally decided I would prefer rain from beginning to end (although not enough for a bloody safety car :lol: !).

At the v least, this would give us an exciting race! But I fully understand that Seb fans would prefer a dry race, as he (presumably) has the car advantage in Brazil over Alonso, whilst Alonso fans would prefer a wet race to make it more of a lottery.


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cjf1 wrote:
Fingers crossed we don't get a start behind the safety car.

That would be a crime against the fans, and I'd send Charlie a set of super-soft tires so he can get a grip.


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flyer wrote:
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Fingers crossed we don't get a start behind the safety car.

That would be a crime against the fans, and I'd send Charlie a set of super-soft tires so he can get a grip.


Zzzzing!

I'm hoping for showers throughout the race, they're always the most exciting...

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Anybody know what conditions are right now?


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Apparently its brightening sky and forecast to be a dry race. @andrewbensonf1


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Had a hunt around for some webcams in downtown Sao Paulo...considering it's 2012 the quality of webcams doesn't seem to have improved in 10 years! Anyway, looks overcast but dry at the minute.

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So 80% chance of heavy rain throughout the race yesterday to possible dry race today, man we suck at weather forecasting ;-)

Feel for those who went with a wet weather setup for race day if it's bone dry all race.


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oh come on, i want a wet finale!


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Jayce wrote:
Can't believe I've been lurking here for 5 years and never uttered a word....ah well, hi everyone :)

At least it was a reasonably good post. :D


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Deep_blue wrote:
Rain forecast for tonight, stopping in the morning and restarting again at 1pm just in time for the race, beginning light and intensifying, so probably we'll see a first stint in intermediates, switching to full wets later


But is there a place for full wets in F1 anymore other than to clear water behind a safety car?


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Rain might arrive again after race is finished, so we could see a dry race from start to finish, although I'd love to see rain during race


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I see that Michael Schumacher is attributing his poor qualifying performance to opting for a full wet set-up. If so and the race turns out to be completely dry, it is going to be an underwhelming end to his F1 career, which would be a pity.


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