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What was the best title finale of all time?
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1981 (Reutemann v Piquet v Laffite) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
1984 (Lauda v Prost) 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
1986 (Mansell v Prost v Piquet) 3%  3%  [ 4 ]
1994 (Schumacher v Hill) 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
1996 (Hill v Villeneuve) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
1997 (Schumacher v Villeneuve) 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
1999 (Irvine v Hakkinen) 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
2007 (Hamilton v Alonso v Raikkonen) 32%  32%  [ 44 ]
2008 (Hamilton v Massa) 49%  49%  [ 68 ]
2010 (Alonso v Webber v Vettel v Hamilton) 9%  9%  [ 12 ]
Other 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:09 pm 
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There has been some dramatic title finales of all time. What was the best title battle that finished in the final race.

2008 is definitely mine, dramatic and fantastic finish. :)


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Nothing can top last race last lap last bend.

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2008 was the most dramatic, but 2007 was the best for me. In 2007 justice triumphed.


I'm not suggesting that 2008 was undeserved. In 2008 McLaren wasn't excluded.

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1997 or 1994. Voted 1997. Can't comment on the 86, 84, 81 ones.

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In my lifetime (ie watching it live) I'd say 1994 for what had happened already that year, 2007 for the impossible becoming the possible and 2010 for similar to 2007, but not quite so intense. Strangely enough the latter two ended up as I wanted, the first not so as I didn't really become a Schumacher fan until he moved to Ferrari, I had little malice towards him but at the time would have preferred Hill to win.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:21 pm 
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Nothing will ever match the sheer drama of 2008.

Last race, Last lap, Last corner. I really do not think that will ever happen again. Best thing for me is that I was on holiday in Spain and me and my mates saw it in a pub where everyone was supporting Massa so it felt like a football style away win!

Also seeing Massa's crew thinking they had won was brilliant, then they all realised that they had lost and that mechanic smashed his head against the wall!

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RaisinChips wrote:
1997 or 1994. Voted 1997. Can't comment on the 86, 84, 81 ones.

Yes, thanks for reminding me, the ones before I was born. 1986 certainly was intense from what I saw. I remember Murray Walker saying everyone was tipping Mansell or Piquet, so when asked he said Prost. Everyone thought he was mad, but he ended up correct. Alain thanked him after the race for having faith in him when in reality it was only to say something different to everyone else.

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It's always the last one - or the coming one.

But 1984 was just amazing. But so were the other ones.

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1997 I was a kid and the supervillain in red ried to take out the young hero, but failed!
It was wicked.


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2008, even though as a Massa fan, it was probably the most gutted I've been watching F1 (deaths/serious injuries notwithstanding).

I think I was too casual an F1 fan to really appreciate the magnitude of 1994 (at the time) and not invested enough in Villeneuve/Schumacher three years later. 2007 was pretty awesome, but I was watching it in a hotel room in Toronto, which took a little bit away from it, if that makes any sense at all?

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Everyone knows the answer to this question.


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2008.
I almost died watching that dramatic finale.


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For drama, characters involved, circumstances, all that stuff, listened to on a crappy transistor radio (yes, really) Hunt/Lauda Japan.
and I guess the Timo Glock school of overtaking episode a distant second.


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2007. The build up was immense, the whole year fraught with suspense and shock and three drivers had a chance of the title. 2008 was fun but it was really only the last ten laps of the race that were the really exciting bit, going into Brazil 08 everyone thought Hamilton would get the title quite easily. Going into Brazil 2007 it really was anyone's. So 2007 wins out for me. Just.

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For me it is was 1998 - Häkkinen - Shuey but if I have to get any of these you list I would go with 1994 - Shuey - Hill

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where are the important years, 88, 2000?

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Where's 89'?

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Bat014 wrote:
where are the important years, 88, 2000?


Championships were decided before the final race in those years

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2008!!

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2010 finale only involve two man, lewis lose his chance by crashing the car in monza and singapore.


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Well of the championships you have listed I can only comment on '07, '08 and '10.

2008 was a good finale to a championship with the last lap on the last corner deciding who won.
2007 had a lot of controversy
2010 had a good championship battle throughout the whole year with 4 drivers constantly changing for the lead. However the final race was a bit of a fizzler after all the hype.

So for me it's between 2008 and 2010 leaning slightly towards 2010 as there were more drivers and teams that could win it.

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2008.

2000 can't be counted because the title didn't go to the final race, but Japan 2000 is a classic race. Hakkinen and Schumacher swapped pole position constantly in qualifying, then both of them were a second a lap quicker than the rest of the field, finishing over a minute ahead of DC who was 3rd.

If you have not seen the Japan 2000 race before, you should watch it. My forum post barely does justice to the race.


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2007 and 2008 were both spectacular, but my vote goes for 2007.
1. Because Kimi finally won the championship after coming 2nd twice
2. Because there were 3 contenders, not just two
3. The guy in last place, and 7 points down with only 10 points to be had, won.


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In terms of sheer emotion, 2008 no doubt. Wet conditions, a title contender taking victory in his home race and the newcomer looking to take vengeance for the year before. Needing to score 5th and falling to 6th with 5 laps to go, then falling back even further. Overtaking at the last real corner of the track? If you put it in a movie, people would say it was ridiculous.

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I would say 2007 and 2008 both were very close..... 2010 was good too but i kept thinking why cant alonso get past a bl**dy renault... its just petrov :/

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For me 1986 will always be the most dramatic. Was just a kid, getting up mega-early whilst stying at my gran's to watch (hopefully) Mansell take the title. That tyre blow-out in Adelaide is forever imprinted in my head.

There have been more nervy finishes but that was a pretty unforgettable moment for me.

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For me it's 2007.

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Surely it has to be 2008? It's the only race I can remember that's ever made me literally jump out of my seat.


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2008 - For me it's exactly the reason why any sport at the highest level is worth watching.


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For me it's 2007, followed by 1997, reasons already mentioned above.


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NvrDieYoung wrote:
2010 finale only involve two man, lewis lose his chance by crashing the car in monza and singapore.


He was still in mathematical contention though.

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2008 for me as it was very dramatic title decided on the last corner wow. I don't choose 2007 as I found it a big anti-climax. Lewis put himself out of contention pretty soon there.

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08.

the rain, massa's family celebrating, Glock Block.. it was tense.

07 was my fav though, i don't even have to tell you the reason.


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2008 get's my vote.

I don't think i will live long enough to see another title fight decided in the last race of the last lap on the last corner.

A close second 2007

I was in a pub in Spain watching it and i remember british people walking in the pub after the race shocked that Hamilton didn't win it and Kimi had won.

2010 3rd

The build up was exciting but the race was an anti-climax and a bit boring when Alonso could not get past petrov.

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2007 and 2008 were both brilliant. 2008 had the dramatic finale within the finale. 2007 though was an excellent slow burn, that built up and up and Kimi came back from behind by having 3 stunning races at teh end when Alonso and Hamilton just couldn't keep it all together.


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For me 1986 will always be the most dramatic. Was just a kid, getting up mega-early whilst stying at my gran's to watch (hopefully) Mansell take the title. That tyre blow-out in Adelaide is forever imprinted in my head.

There have been more nervy finishes but that was a pretty unforgettable moment for me.

yeah, was pretty good. First it looked like it was Mansell's, then in the bag for Piquet, then finally Prost after Piquet was called in as a precaution. Just think if he hadn't everyone would be talking about Piquet as a four times champ instead of Prost :lol:


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My interests weren't represented in it, but even I was losing my fairy cakes watching Brazil '08.

Surely that won't ever be topped.

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The last race of the 1964 season was in Mexico, going into the race Hill lead with 39 points but would have to drop 3 if he scored, Surtees had 34 points and Clark 30 but with more wins than either. If Clark or Surtees won Hill must finish 2nd or 3rd to be world champion, Surtees was effectively 2 pts behind Hill so anywhere in 1st through 4th with a Hill non finish and he would be Champion. Clark had to win (or come 2nd with Hill and Surtees not scoring to become World Champion.
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Clark's hopes of World Championship success were slim but they looked decidedly better at the start as he took off into the lead. Graham Hill dropped to 10th when the elastic on his goggles broke just before the start while Surtees's car was misfiring badly and he was down in 13th place at the end of the first lap. Surtees was in luck, however, as his engine cured itself and he was able to begin a charge through the field. Hill too was able to make up places and on lap 12 he moved into the vital third position which gave him the one point he needed to stay ahead of Clark. Hill remained under threat from Bandini and on lap 31 the two cars made contact and both spun. This enabled Surtees to take third place. Hill rejoined but he had damaged the exhausts on the BRM and had to pit and so his chances of winning the World Championship depended on his rivals retiring. With Gurney second, Surtees could not win the title if Clark won the race and as Bandini's flat 12 Ferrari was quicker than the V8 car being used by Surtees the Italian moved up into third.

It seemed that Clark was going to win a second title but with seven laps to go the Lotus began leaking oil. On the last lap the Lotus's engine seized up. Gurney went through to win but now Surtees's title depended on Bandini moving over to allow him to finish second. The Italian did exactly that and Surtees became the first motorcycling World Champion to win a world title on four wheels as well.

So Ferrari No2 Bandini took out Hill and then gifted Surtees the World Championship on the last lap after Clark's DNF...

Deja Vu anyone

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2008 for me, that was the first year I started to closely watch F1. I've been addicted ever since....


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The situation in 2010 was set to be perfect, sadly the Abu Dhabi track spoiled it. Even so, 4 drivers going into it with a chance of the title was amazing.

2008 will probably never be beaten though for sheer drama.

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