M.Nader -DODZ- wrote:
If Jenson was having collisions and penalties it would be used against him, not as an excuse for poor driving...
Rightly so, the same for Lewis. He was terrible in that half of the season.
But you said Lewis would of beaten Jenson in those races if it had not been for penalties or collisions, that to me is an excuse.
Not making excuses, analysing the results. To me I like to know how Jenson Button can beat Lewis Hamilton. He hands down did it in three races - Brazil, Singapore and Japan. This year Australia, Spa and today he even overtook Lewis in a straight fight although Lewis returned the favour and then built a 5 second gap.
2010, he never really did it without tyre gambles or running complete different setup (Monza).
arguments aside, by you evaluation criteria how many times has Lewis beat Jenson in a straight fight? no tyre gambles or different setups?
I am genuinely interested to know, not a trick question.
I do not know but from memory this season...
Tempted to say Austin but Buttons qualifying woe adds ambiguity to it so I won't.
Abu Dhabi for sure.
Singapore (although JB was on good form I have to say)
Canada (although JB did not get much Friday running to be fair)
A few others but cases can be made that it was not a straight fight. Like Korea where Lewis was 7 places ahead when JB was taken out.
You'll note some of those races Lewis did not even finish, but for me showed why I rate him that little bit higher than JB. A prime example being Abu Dhabi.
Looking at it from the other side.
JB beating Lewis...
Australia - hands down and a bitter weekend for Lewis and his fans
Malaysia - Race 2 and Jenson still looking strong compared to Lewis but collided with a back marker. I must admit I was worried that Jenson was equal for speed and more consistent than Lewis. However he crashed and fell away from this point onwards.
China - Lewis comes alive, Jenson finishes ahead but 5 place grid penalty hurts Lewis massively.
Jenson hits the setup wall.
Spa - hands down beat Lewis again. But with no Friday running car setup is tricky for all teams and Lewis ends up with a vastly inferior car which he is of course partly to blame for.
Germany - Button has an impressive run to 2nd, I was in the stands cheering for him
, but lap 1 puncture for Lewis means we will never know.
Japan - Jenson quicker but later disclosed Lewis had a damper failure for qualifying and race.
Brazil - I would put as a draw, they both impressed me. Jenson for overtaking Lewis and edging away in stint one and Lewis for doing the same in stint two. Again Jenson has uncanny skill of predicting the weather just like his two wins in early 2010.