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Alonso himself said later in an interview (which I cannot find and will never find) that his habit of not taking shit before the races made the car heavier and cost him the title. Motivation was cited as a factor

Umm are you ok?

That's the whole point Ferrari never broke down if it wasn't for grosjean you can bet alonso would be champion today.
Vettel having accidents is his own fault and Renault s fault for designing shitty alternators

What?

again i will use my fave quote

"and if my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle"

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If she had balls your uncle would be gay...

Wooooosh

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Ferrari needed to gamble today, they had nothing to lose and EVERYTHING to gain. Watching the race live, I was yelling at the TV that Alonso should have stayed on slicks like Button and Hulk.

Still might not have won the title, but that was the better move and would have been my call.

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Red Bull's strategy call to pit Vettel at Canada got them a 4-point swing which has proven to be crucial.

In fact if Vettel had not pitted that day, unlike Alonso he would have been gobbled up by the mid field and he may have even ended outside the points. Alonso was quite smug that day in Canada even though he lost positions rooting how proud he was to stay out, I am sure he would be having nightmares right now about that race and how the call he made has come to bite him for at least another year.

I don't know what the OP meant, but this is how i see it: That Ferrari raced 20 races, had no car failures, and only one strategy fail; which I consider to be not leaving Alonso out for another 1 or 2 laps at Monaco (if you revisit the VT on that one, you'll notice how Fernando closes the gap up and then purposely sits 1.8 seconds behind to save his tyres from aero degradation). This is a minute discrepancy in the wider light of team decisions up and down the paddock.

In Canada they said that the tyres were not then a fully known entity, and that they "flipped the coin in the air" in search of a win. RB pursued the same possibility, and it proved not to be a possibility. This I do not consider to be a missed trick. I was quite aware at the time, (given the unstable nature of the racing/championship) that a Ferrari win here would go a long way to winning the WC, and in retrospect, it sure would have.

You can mention all the if's and but's about Red Bull, but the lions share of their misfortune has been within their realm of responsibility kers/alternators/driver errors (Hamilton/Macca also re: reliability, pit-stop chaos etc.), Ferrari's has not.

In light of Ferrari's near spotless season, its not going too far to point out that from what happened at the circuits all year, the only real notable point worth discussing was the Destruction Derby at Spa....

A fair comment IMO

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that's his story of the year. always picking up places when some1 lose it in front.

and then went overhype about his car being crap, and him being over achieving....

I don't post much! As a DIE HARD Ferrari fan since was 6, Grosjean had nothing to do with Vettel winning and Alonso not! The OP is trying to stir shi't or is an idiot!! Alonso tried harder than anyone this year! Vettel is a great driver but as soon as Newey hooked that RB up, the title was over! Great race today! In particular, Button, Alonso, Vettel, and Massa! Massa was my driver of the day going on how much he's turned his season around and how poorly he normally is in the rain! Can't wait for next year!

Several factors could have infulenced the WDC

Vettel/Narain Malaysia
Vettel drive through Spain
Bad strategy for both in Canada
Alternator in Valencia for Seb
Vettel overtake on Button Germany
Spa crash
Alonso anti-roll bar fail in Q3, Vettel alternator in race
Alonso crash Suzuka
Vettel sent to back of grid Abu Dhabi
Austin grid situation
Vettel crash Interlagos

Not to forget all the bad luck Hamilton suffered,

You win and lose Championships over a season, not in a couple of races!

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Totally agree. Massa was epic today and did everything Alonso and Ferrari could have possibly expected of him.

Lets play the absurd blame game...


Kimi cost Alonso the title in Interlagos by going off track to avoid Vettel.

+1

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+ Vettel drive-through / alternator failure in Italy

Full credit and kudos for admitting that this thread was a mistake and should be locked.

I'm impressed and will make more effort in future to admit when I am wrong!

And so the hunt for scapegoats begins.

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Your post is almost as bad as the OP, where did Alonso qualify? and where did he finish? Mclaren were shown to be the strongest car all weekend, so he was never going to really catch Button, so to say he did not do all he could is rather ignorant

This thread is not without significance, when Alonso himself said that.

I know that losing a championship must feel terrible, but what comes out in times like that is the unvarnished truth. This is what Alonso really feels, no matter what he says about the championship in the coming days. Goes to show 'state of mind', Your Honor!

I agree with the several posters who have made reasonable arguments against this line of thought. As one brilliant post went, it was Vettel's fault really for scoring more points.

Alonso made up all his positions at the start ! In the rest of the race he was just parading. It was raining most of the time and with some heart he could have fighted the Mc Larens just like Hulk did. Also he got another chance after the safety car, but again unfortunately he chose to parade and not race.