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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:59 pm 
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I have followed every season since 1978 and I am struggling to think of a better one... We seem to have a bit of everything

A great field with many names that surely will be legends of the sport

Lots of winners, nothing predictable

Crashes, controvesy, Grosjean....

One of the biggest fields with 24 cars

Great tracks, old classics, new belters like Austin

Almost every race on the edge of the seat watching

Down to the wire ending...

What do you lot think?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:05 pm 
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Certainly a great season.


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I think it has to be up there with the best, Williams domination of 1992 iirc and my Fave driver of all time sweeping all before him runs it close for me.

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Erm was great for the first 7 races and there after merely very good, people it seems are not happy when a different car wins from race to race, as they can't handle having a fight with more than 5 people in it for the championship... the moaning about the tires was rather bizare and annoying seems some people are happy when the big teams win and that small teams dont deserve to be allowed a chance at the title, thus they changed the tires... what a shame. Still a good season though.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:17 pm 
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A fantastic season, joint best with 08 & 10

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:18 pm 
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if you're a Pirelli employee, yes...

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:21 pm 
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I think 2007 was better. You had all thrillers at once including spying.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:28 pm 
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Great season. A bit frustrating at times as a Button fan, but the on track action was superb. We really are witnessing a golden era for Formula 1 racing.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:57 pm 
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One of the best I have seen. Quality of racing has been superb.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:25 am 
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great season. I wish we've had more guys running for the championship at Brazil, but what we got was amazing and probably the best since 99/07?


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Japan to India was a bore fest though.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:42 am 
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Reminds me of 1996. Car overcoming driver talent.

It is quite embarrassing for Seb the small margin he won over such an inferior car.

I've never said Seb's success is all the car, but this year it is.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:48 am 
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infi24r wrote:
Reminds me of 1996. Car overcoming driver talent.

It is quite embarrassing for Seb the small margin he won over such an inferior car.

I've never said Seb's success is all the car, but this year it is.

Vettel was not in the fastest car, McLaren drivers were...

Look where his teammate Webber ended the championship, 6th in WDC.

If it is embrassing for Vettel, by your logic do you think Webber should be allowed to drive ever again in F1?

Ferrari although deficient in qualy was a very good race car...

Edit: Also in 1996 both Jacques Villenueve and Damon Hill were driving the same car. Try another year ....


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:48 am 
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Best seasons since I've started watching in 2001:
2005
2007
2008
2012

I thoroughly , thoroughly enjoyed the entire season.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:51 am 
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lots of drama....but thanks to the six wdc, we witnessed some serious wheel to wheel racings........the height that i doubt the current GP2 graduates can reach.

Watch out for Hulkenberg though, great talent.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:51 am 
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PacificBeach wrote:
infi24r wrote:
Reminds me of 1996. Car overcoming driver talent.

It is quite embarrassing for Seb the small margin he won over such an inferior car.

I've never said Seb's success is all the car, but this year it is.

Vettel was not in the fastest car, McLaren drivers were...

Look where his teammate Webber ended the championship, 6th in WDC.

If it is embrassing for Vettel, by your logic do you think Webber should be allowed to drive ever again F1?

Ferrari although deficient in qualy was a very good race car...

Edit: Also in 1996 both Jacques Villenueve and Damon Hill were driving the same car. Try another year ....

Never said anyone should 'not be allowed to drive in F1'. I don't know why you're mentioning Webber, he Vettel in title at the half way mark and has had ridiculous reliability and strategy ever since. Vettel fanboys always try and make it "about webber", i'm not talking about Webber, this is about Alonso and Hamilton.

The Red Bull and McLaren were fairly equal over the season, Red Bull's recent run puts it just ahead but equal.

McLaren certainly threw this away, but Alonso should not have been a title contender.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:52 am 
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xECKSx58 wrote:
Best seasons since I've started watching in 2001:
2005
2007
2008
2012

I thoroughly , thoroughly enjoyed the entire season.


2005?

They best races were Nurburgring, Indy, and Suzuka.

Nothing happened the rest of the year.

Schumi-Rubens and Kimi-Fisi were the only races for the lead.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:52 am 
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PacificBeach wrote:
infi24r wrote:
Reminds me of 1996. Car overcoming driver talent.

It is quite embarrassing for Seb the small margin he won over such an inferior car.

I've never said Seb's success is all the car, but this year it is.

Edit: Also in 1996 both Jacques Villenueve and Damon Hill were driving the same car. Try another year ....

They beat schumacher because they were in the far superior car despite him being a far better drive. That was 2012 all over.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:56 am 
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The best season since I started watching, yes. For 4 reasons.

1. Incredible caliber of driving
2. Unpredictability
3. Many exciting races
4. A close championship with arguably the greatest title decider ever

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:59 am 
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infi24r wrote:
PacificBeach wrote:
infi24r wrote:
Reminds me of 1996. Car overcoming driver talent.

It is quite embarrassing for Seb the small margin he won over such an inferior car.

I've never said Seb's success is all the car, but this year it is.

Edit: Also in 1996 both Jacques Villenueve and Damon Hill were driving the same car. Try another year ....

They beat schumacher because they were in the far superior car despite him being a far better drive. That was 2012 all over.


A 'far superior' car more often than not means the two drivers are also dominant, a la Hill and Villeneuve in 1996.

The RB8 was hardly superior, and Vettel took his team-mate to the cleaners.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:01 am 
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Eva09 wrote:
xECKSx58 wrote:
Best seasons since I've started watching in 2001:
2005
2007
2008
2012

I thoroughly , thoroughly enjoyed the entire season.


2005?

They best races were Nurburgring, Indy, and Suzuka.

Nothing happened the rest of the year.

Schumi-Rubens and Kimi-Fisi were the only races for the lead.

It was fun watching the Alonso/Raikkonen battle for the Championship.
But yes, there was almost no overtaking.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:34 am 
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lab105 wrote:
infi24r wrote:
PacificBeach wrote:
infi24r wrote:
Reminds me of 1996. Car overcoming driver talent.

It is quite embarrassing for Seb the small margin he won over such an inferior car.

I've never said Seb's success is all the car, but this year it is.

Edit: Also in 1996 both Jacques Villenueve and Damon Hill were driving the same car. Try another year ....

They beat schumacher because they were in the far superior car despite him being a far better drive. That was 2012 all over.


A 'far superior' car more often than not means the two drivers are also dominant, a la Hill and Villeneuve in 1996.

The RB8 was hardly superior, and Vettel took his team-mate to the cleaners.

I think he meant 1997 season but he didn't want to track back from the dumb analogy, anyways....

Red bull's recent run edges it over McLaren?
Really? lets see what happened in the second half of the season with so called Red Bull resurgence:
HUNGARY: Lewis Wins
SPA: Button wins
MONZA: Lewis wins
SINGAPORE: Lewis retires from lead with gearbox issue.
SUZUKA: Vettel wins
KOREA: Vettel wins
INDIA: Vettel wins
ABU DHABI: Lewis retires from lead
USA: Lewis wins
BRAZIL: Button wins

Maybe you are right :) only a fool would miss the obvious conclusion that "Red Bull edges it"....

Your teammates is 6th in WDC, behind three different other cars and yet this is an example of much superior car winning against a driver. OK.

or even the Alonso's luck whole season and the last race didn't turn out to be enough...


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lab105 wrote:
infi24r wrote:
PacificBeach wrote:
infi24r wrote:
Reminds me of 1996. Car overcoming driver talent.

It is quite embarrassing for Seb the small margin he won over such an inferior car.

I've never said Seb's success is all the car, but this year it is.

Edit: Also in 1996 both Jacques Villenueve and Damon Hill were driving the same car. Try another year ....

They beat schumacher because they were in the far superior car despite him being a far better drive. That was 2012 all over.


A 'far superior' car more often than not means the two drivers are also dominant, a la Hill and Villeneuve in 1996.

The RB8 was hardly superior, and Vettel took his team-mate to the cleaners.

Vettel was trailing his team mate at the half way mark :uhoh:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:46 am 
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PacificBeach wrote:
lab105 wrote:
infi24r wrote:
PacificBeach wrote:
infi24r wrote:
Reminds me of 1996. Car overcoming driver talent.

It is quite embarrassing for Seb the small margin he won over such an inferior car.

I've never said Seb's success is all the car, but this year it is.

Edit: Also in 1996 both Jacques Villenueve and Damon Hill were driving the same car. Try another year ....

They beat schumacher because they were in the far superior car despite him being a far better drive. That was 2012 all over.


A 'far superior' car more often than not means the two drivers are also dominant, a la Hill and Villeneuve in 1996.

The RB8 was hardly superior, and Vettel took his team-mate to the cleaners.

I think he meant 1997 season but he didn't want to track back from the dumb analogy, anyways....

Red bull's recent run edges it over McLaren?
Really? lets see what happened in the second half of the season with so called Red Bull resurgence:
HUNGARY: Lewis Wins
SPA: Button wins
MONZA: Lewis wins
SINGAPORE: Lewis retires from lead with gearbox issue.
SUZUKA: Vettel wins
KOREA: Vettel wins
INDIA: Vettel wins
ABU DHABI: Lewis retires from lead
USA: Lewis wins
BRAZIL: Button wins

Maybe you are right :) only a fool would miss the obvious conclusion that "Red Bull edges it"....

Your teammates is 6th in WDC, behind three different other cars and yet this is an example of much superior car winning against a driver. OK.

or even the Alonso's luck whole season and the last race didn't turn out to be enough...

I've never denied the McLaren was a damn fine car. But lets have a look at Ferrari's qualifying and win rate lately.


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infi24r wrote:
lab105 wrote:
infi24r wrote:
PacificBeach wrote:
infi24r wrote:
Reminds me of 1996. Car overcoming driver talent.

It is quite embarrassing for Seb the small margin he won over such an inferior car.

I've never said Seb's success is all the car, but this year it is.

Edit: Also in 1996 both Jacques Villenueve and Damon Hill were driving the same car. Try another year ....

They beat schumacher because they were in the far superior car despite him being a far better drive. That was 2012 all over.


A 'far superior' car more often than not means the two drivers are also dominant, a la Hill and Villeneuve in 1996.

The RB8 was hardly superior, and Vettel took his team-mate to the cleaners.

Vettel was trailing his team mate at the half way mark :uhoh:


Unfortunately for you, the season isn't 10 races. :uhoh:


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lab105 wrote:
Unfortunately for you, the season isn't 10 races. :uhoh:

Webber got in front of Vettel in two instances:
For 2 races beginning with Malaysia ( Vettel was infront of Webber but does not score thanks to cucumber)
For 4 races beginning with Valencia (Vettel retires from lead and loses a very likely win)

Vettel outraced Webber something like 16-4 in races...


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Pretty good season...almost as good as 1986

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:58 am 
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A great season but i think the most exciting final race was still 2008 when Massa lost the title at the last corner to Hamilton.


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Probably one of the best seasons i've seen but not for the championship, just for the racing and the lineup. Alonso vs Vettel was dull... There was absolutely nothing on track except Monza where Alonso started complaining and Vettel got a penalty. Towards the end Vettel scored a lot of pole-to-flag victories and Alonso hogged off from the retirements and Massa. I wish Hamilton and Raikkonen were in the mix, we could've seen better racing on track and less talk about car being dominant.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:54 am 
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It's actually the first season I got into F1 and followed it extensively, and I must say, what a season this has been! Loved how the races up to the halfway point through the season were highly unpredictable, a big lottery of sorts.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:57 am 
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Great season overall, but the tires were kind of a taint for me.


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amazing season

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I can't say it was the best ever in the 2 decades or so I've been watching... but maybe the most memorable for all the storylines, the unpredictability which I really do feel added a lot for me as I'm not terribly invested in any particular driver or team, I mostly want to watch the world's best driving the world's best racing on circuits. No small part of the NFL's popularity was built on the "On any given Sunday...." principle.

This season had that... maybe the 3 back markers + Toro Rosso couldn't be a factor on any given Sunday, but pretty much every other team showed potential that given the crazy season to place on the podium and even claim a win. That's a very special thing especially compared to seasons when the question was how many Michael would lap, and would his Ferrari have a 20, 30 or 40 second gap over his podium mates.

Maybe the best statement on the season was I'm already anxious for the 2013 to start. Much like the feeling leaving COTA a week ago... "Can we do it all over again?!?!?!"... I feel that way about this season just completed.

Also many thanks for Kimi for bringing humor to the season whether intended or not... whether it being his response to his team in Abu Dhabi, or commenters of his stoic demeanor, and not smiling enough or today's excursion to other pavement routes at Interlagos.


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Certainly has been one of the best, although for me 2009 will always be a favourite for the fairly-tale story of the button-brawn combo.


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definetly exciting, but I would like things to change to allow other teams a shot at the top


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