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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:31 pm 
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Ferrari was great when testing was allowed.

But in recent years, after MS era, Ferrari can't win titles.

And, during testing era, we saw lots of comebacks from teams like Willams, Renault, Ferrari and McLaren in the season. Now without testing catch-up is a lot harder.

F1 needs free testing all year around I believe.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:32 pm 
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What difference does it make, its not like they are saying some teams can,some cant. Pointless thread really.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:39 pm 
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What it does it make it harder for teams to catchup to whoever has made the most progress/innovation over the winter period.

Honda made 2009's BrawnGP car, and it took a while for other teams to catchup with the double diffuser. McLaren had it themselves with the 'F-Duct', the blown diffuser (was it Red Bull who pioneered this for this generation?). Mercedes' 'Double DRS'.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:41 pm 
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Re: TESTING BAN HIT FERRARI AFTER SCHUMACHER ERA

HAS IT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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During Free Testing Era, Ferrari was very dominant. FIA changed lots of rules to make Ferrari uncompetitive. That's why Alonso can't win titles as easy Vettel does.


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Can you imagine how dominant red bull would be with additional testing


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During Free Testing Era, Ferrari was very dominant. FIA changed lots of rules to make Ferrari uncompetitive. That's why Alonso can't win titles as easy Vettel does.

Oh please.

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Sometimes I wonder about evolution.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:43 pm 
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Did we really need all caps for the thread title?


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Daedroth wrote:
What it does it make it harder for teams to catchup to whoever has made the most progress/innovation over the winter period.

Honda made 2009's BrawnGP car, and it took a while for other teams to catchup with the double diffuser. McLaren had it themselves with the 'F-Duct', the blown diffuser (was it Red Bull who pioneered this for this generation?). Mercedes' 'Double DRS'.

And yet in every one of those years, except 2009 when they came close, Red Bull won both championships. When they didn't start the fastest, they worked on the car.

Testing is banned more due to costs now.

Edit: I'll add in the quote so it makes sense.

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Sometimes I wonder about evolution.

I believe in it just never knew it could go backwards :lol:

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virus wrote:
During Free Testing Era, Ferrari was very dominant. FIA changed lots of rules to make Ferrari uncompetitive. That's why Alonso can't win titles as easy Vettel does.

It made everyone as uncompetitive as everyone else. It isn't the FIA's fault that Ferrari hasn't had any technical innovation during the winter periods, unlike Red Bull have with Adrian Newey.


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What difference does it make, its not like they are saying some teams can,some cant. Pointless thread really.

Ferrari have Maranello track. So they can test on their own track secretly.
Others used to test mostly at Silverstone, where everybody could see them, especially if they were trying new parts.


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Redleb wrote:
F12012 wrote:
What difference does it make, its not like they are saying some teams can,some cant. Pointless thread really.

Ferrari have Maranello track. So they can test on their own track secretly.
Others used to test mostly at Silverstone, where everybody could see them, especially if they were trying new parts.


Yes I believe Ferrari use an electric engine at Fiorano so no one notices.

Jesus. Has everyone gone out drinking without telling me?

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Asphalt_World wrote:
Redleb wrote:
F12012 wrote:
What difference does it make, its not like they are saying some teams can,some cant. Pointless thread really.

Ferrari have Maranello track. So they can test on their own track secretly.
Others used to test mostly at Silverstone, where everybody could see them, especially if they were trying new parts.


Yes I believe Ferrari use an electric engine at Fiorano so no one notices.

Jesus. Has everyone gone out drinking without telling me?


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Asphalt_World wrote:
Redleb wrote:
F12012 wrote:
What difference does it make, its not like they are saying some teams can,some cant. Pointless thread really.

Ferrari have Maranello track. So they can test on their own track secretly.
Others used to test mostly at Silverstone, where everybody could see them, especially if they were trying new parts.


Yes I believe Ferrari use an electric engine at Fiorano so no one notices.

Jesus. Has everyone gone out drinking without telling me?

Yes you are drunk....we are talking about why Ferrari had an advantage when testing was allowed..... :lol:


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Redleb wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Redleb wrote:
F12012 wrote:
What difference does it make, its not like they are saying some teams can,some cant. Pointless thread really.

Ferrari have Maranello track. So they can test on their own track secretly.
Others used to test mostly at Silverstone, where everybody could see them, especially if they were trying new parts.


Yes I believe Ferrari use an electric engine at Fiorano so no one notices.

Jesus. Has everyone gone out drinking without telling me?

Yes you are drunk....we are talking about why Ferrari had an advantage when testing was allowed..... :lol:



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Rumour has it that Red Bull rent out the CERN Hadron Collider on weekends for high speed testing deep underground...


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Rumour has it that Red Bull rent out the CERN Hadron Collider on weekends for high speed testing deep underground...

Shhhhhhh

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virus wrote:
Ferrari was great when testing was allowed.

But in recent years, after MS era, Ferrari can't win titles.

And, during testing era, we saw lots of comebacks from teams like Willams, Renault, Ferrari and McLaren in the season. Now without testing catch-up is a lot harder.

F1 needs free testing all year around I believe.


No Ferrari was made by Shuey, Todt, Brawn with team. It was a team. Today they are back where they started.

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I heard somewhere that Red Bull are dominant because they are reserving greater resources to understand the way the car works at a more fundamental level than any other team, through more advanced research and simulation. This means development without testing becomes more efficient, as more parts work better straight away more of the time. On the other hand a number of other teams (Merc, maybe Ferrari) are caught up with the mentality of only caring about whether the new parts they make add speed to the car or not, a mentailty that is outdated without free testing.


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Never mind they're being out-spent now days, which hasn't always been the case.


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swillis wrote:
Never mind they're being out-spent now days, which hasn't always been the case.



Links ?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:20 am 
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F12012 wrote:
virus wrote:
During Free Testing Era, Ferrari was very dominant. FIA changed lots of rules to make Ferrari uncompetitive. That's why Alonso can't win titles as easy Vettel does.

Oh please.

X2 !!! :lol:


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