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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:04 pm 
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OK so I've done this most years for a while now. A very simple thread for you all to rank the current F1 grid. This concept seems tricky for some but is simple, list the drivers in the order you rate them right now, best at the top. That's it. You're not rating them on this season, just an overall feel for where you think that driver sits right now in terms of his ability.

copy and paste from the list below
do not add numbers or = signs,
no comments before of after the driver names
No even placings
no tiers or groups
No separate lists for racecraft/speed etc


I copy and past the lists to collate the results once we're done.

To make for a valid comparison to the start of the year, all drivers are listed, even if they are not returning next year.

Your list then


Fernando Alonso
Jenson Button
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Paul di Resta
Timo Glock
Romain Grosjean
Lewis Hamilton
Nico Hulkenberg
Narain Karthikeyan
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Pastor Maldonado
Felipe Massa
Sergio Perez
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Kimi Räikkönen
Daniel Ricciardo
Nico Rosberg
Michael Schumacher
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Sebastian Vettel
Mark Webber

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:19 pm 
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Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Raikkonen
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Nico Hulkenberg
Nico Rosberg
Sergio Perez
Michael Schumacher
Paul Di Resta
Romain Grosjean
Daniel Ricciardo
Pastor Maldanado
Felipe Massa
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Jean Eric Vergne
Charles Pic
Timo Glock
Bruno Senna
Vitaly Petrov
Pedro De La Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosia
Narain Karthikeyan

Perez to Kovi is so close i culd almost put them in any order! In the end I went with my gut feeling.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:29 pm 
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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Raikkonen
Jenson Button
Felipe Massa
Mark Webber
Nico Hulkenberg
Pastor Maldonado
Romain Grosjean
Michael Schumacher
Kamui Kobayashi
Daniel Ricciardo
Nico Rosberg
Sergio Perez
Paul Di Resta
Bruno Senna
Heikki Kovalainen
Jean Eric Vergne
Charles Pic
Vitaly Petrov
Timo Glock
Pedro De La Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:34 pm 
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Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Mark Webber
Heikki Kovalainen
Timo Glock
Paul di Resta
Pastor Maldonado
Daniel Ricciardo
Charles Pic
Kamui Kobayashi
Romain Grosjean
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Vitaly Petrov
Jean-Eric Vergne
Felipe Massa
Bruno Senna
Narain Karthikeyan


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:39 pm 
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Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Nico Hulkenberg
Pastor Maldonado
Felipe Massa
Nico Rosberg
Daniel Ricciardo
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Michael Schumacher
Timo Glock
Charles Pic
Bruno Senna
Sergio Perez
Romain Grosjean
Paul di Resta
Vitaly Petrov
Pedro de la Rosa
Jean-Eric Vergne
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:40 pm 
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Lewis Hamilton
Michael Schumacher
Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Jenson Button
Nico Rosberg
Kimi Räikkönen
Heikki Kovalainen
Felipe Massa
Mark Webber
Timo Glock
Nico Hulkenberg
Pastor Maldonado
Romain Grosjean
Vitaly Petrov
Sergio Perez
Kamui Kobayashi
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Paul di Resta
Bruno Senna
Charles Pic
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan
Jerome D'Ambrosio


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Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Raikkonen
Nico Hulkenberg
Sebastian Vettel
Jenson Button
Pastor Maldonado
Felipe Massa
Mark Webber
Nico Rosberg
Kamui Kobayashi
Michael Schumacher
Daniel Ricciardo
Heikki Kovalainen
Sergio Perez
Bruno Senna
Roman Grosjean
Timo Glock
Jean Eric Vergne
Paul Di Resta
Charles Pic
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Vitaly Petrov
Pedro De La Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:49 pm 
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Sebastian Vettel
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Raikkonen
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Fernando Alonso
Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez
Michael Schumacher
Paul Di Resta
Romain Grosjean
Nico Rosberg
Heikki Kovalainen
Timo Glock
Daniel Ricciardo
Pastor Maldanado
Felipe Massa
Kamui Kobayashi
Jean Eric Vergne
Pedro De La Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosia
Charles Pic
Bruno Senna
Vitaly Petrov
Narain Karthikeyan


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:52 pm 
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I have just been thinking about this, will post when i make my mind on some of them. This year proved quite a bit and my ratings will change a lot from last year.

DOLOMITE, where is your list?


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@OP How can you effectively judge all the drivers one by one when the cars they drive are all different, some even 3-4 seconds a lap slower? In any case, this poll will obviously reflect the bias induced by short memories and recent races. If you take the poll just before the beginning of the new season, it would make much more sense but still the car being a variable conundrum cannot be overcome. A more accurate answer would be to club them in tiers I think.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:56 pm 
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Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Raikkonen
Nico Hulkenberg
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Felipe Massa
Nico Rosberg
Pastor Maldonado
Michael Schumacher
Bruno Senna
Kamui Kobayashi
Sergio Perez
Charles Pic
Heikki Kovalainen
Romain Grosjean
Jean Eric Vergne
Daniel Ricciardo
Paul Di Resta
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Jerome D'ambrosio
Pedro De La Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:57 pm 
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chinki wrote:
@OP How can you effectively judge all the drivers one by one when the cars they drive are all different, some even 3-4 seconds a lap slower? In any case, this poll will obviously reflect the bias induced by short memories and recent races. If you take the poll just before the beginning of the new season, it would make much more sense but still the car being a variable conundrum cannot be overcome. A more accurate answer would be to club them in tiers I think.


He does it before and after every season to see where things stand, you may think it has bias but due to the number of contributers the results are not screwed and can be quite fair on how people rate the drivers


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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Nico Hulkenberg
Mark Webber
Pastor Maldonado
Sergio Perez
Nico Rosberg
Romain Grosjean
Michael Schumacher
Timo Glock
Daniel Ricciardo
Felipe Massa
Paul di Resta
Vitaly Petrov
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Charles Pic
Jean-Eric Vergne
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Bruno Senna
Narain Karthikeyan

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:05 am 
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Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Räikkönen
Nico Hulkenberg
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Pastor Maldonado
Felipe Massa
Sergio Perez
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Romain Grosjean
Daniel Ricciardo
Kamui Kobayashi
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Paul di Resta
Charles Pic
Vitaly Petrov
Timo Glock
Heikki Kovalainen
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
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Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Jenson Button
Felipe Massa
Kimi Räikkönen
Pastor Maldonado
Nico Hulkenberg
Mark Webber
Paul di Resta
Kamui Kobayashi
Sergio Perez
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Jean-Eric Vergne
Romain Grosjean
Daniel Ricciardo
Bruno Senna
Charles Pic
Vitaly Petrov
Timo Glock
Heikki Kovalainen
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:19 am 
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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Raikkonen
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Nico Hulkenburg
Pastor Maldonado
Felipe Massa
Kamui Koboyashi
Sergio Perez
Romain Grojsean
Nico Rosberg
Michael Schumacher
Paul DiResta
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Daniel Riccardo
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Timo Glock
Pedro De La Rosa
Heikki Kovalainen
Narain Karthikeyan
Jerome D'Ambrosio

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:23 am 
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chinki wrote:
@OP How can you effectively judge all the drivers one by one when the cars they drive are all different, some even 3-4 seconds a lap slower? In any case, this poll will obviously reflect the bias induced by short memories and recent races. If you take the poll just before the beginning of the new season, it would make much more sense but still the car being a variable conundrum cannot be overcome. A more accurate answer would be to club them in tiers I think.


you're missing the point - this is just to get a measure of public opinion. I do it each year ( as I said at the start) and see how public opinion shift over time. You don't have to explain your choices , just do a list.

Just seen you've done yours!

Schu 2nd best right now - really?! You're a brave man considering his teammate scored twice the points in the same car which seems to be your main concern!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:25 am 
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Lewis Hamilton
Fernandez Alonso
Kimi Raikkonen
Sebastian Vettel
Michael Schumacher
Felipe Massa
Mark Webber
Jenson Button
Nico Rosberg
Heiki Kovalainen
Timo Glock
Nico Hulkenberg
Kamui Kobyashi
Paul Di Resta
Romain Grosjean
Vitaly Petrov
Pastor Maldonado
Sergio Perez
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean Eric Vergne
Bruno Senna
Pedro De la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Charles Pic
Narain Karthikeyan


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Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Felipe Massa
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Raikkonen
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Nico Rosberg
Michael Schumacher
Sergio Perez
Charles Pic
Heikki Kovalainen
Bruno Senna
Nico Hulkenberg
Kamui Kobayashi
Jean Eric Vergne
Daniel Ricciardo
Paul Di Resta
Timo Glock
Narain Karthikeyan
Vitaly Petrov
Jerome D'ambrosio
Pedro De La Rosa
Pastor Maldonado
Romain Grosjean


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Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Nico Rosberg
Sergio Perez
Nico Hulkenberg
Kamui Kobayashi
Mark Webber
Felipe Massa
Pastor Maldonado
Paul di Resta
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Bruno Senna
Michael Schumacher
Romain Grosjean
Vitaly Petrov
Timo Glock
Charles Pic
Heikki Kovalainen
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan

Slower teams last as hard to gage anything, they in their own series.


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Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Nico Rosberg
Nico Hulkenberg
Heikki Kovalainen
Daniel Ricciardo
Mark Webber
Charles Pic
Timo Glock
Sergio Perez
Kamui Kobayashi
Paul di Resta
Michael Schumacher
Felipe Massa
Jean-Eric Vergne
Pedro de la Rosa
Pastor Maldonado
Romain Grosjean
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Vitaly Petrov
Bruno Senna
Narain Karthikeyan


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:17 am 
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@Dolo - Can you paste the results of previous years into OP (even as a link/file download or something) just to show the change?

Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Raikkonen
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Nico Rosberg
Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez
Michael Schumacher
Romain Grosjean
Felipe Massa
Kamui Kobayashi
Pastor Maldonado
Daniel Ricciardo
Paul di Resta
Heikki Kovalainen
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Jean-Eric Vergne
Bruno Senna
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome d'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

A lot of drivers who I didn't rate so highly have been in very good form towards the end of the year, so it's very hard to rate. People like Hulkenberg, Massa, Maldonado and Ricciardo. The latter three could be set for big rises next year - Hulkenberg less so because he can't prove much at a midfield team with a rookie team mate.

I may come back and revise this.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:18 am 
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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Räikkönen
Sebastian Vettel
Jenson Button
Felipe Massa
Nico Hulkenberg
Mark Webber
Pastor Maldonado
Sergio Perez
Romain Grosjean
Nico Rosberg
Bruno Senna
Michael Schumacher
Kamui Kobayashi
Paul di Resta
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Timo Glock
Narain Karthikeyan
Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne

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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Jenson Button
Kimi Räikkönen
Sebastian Vettel
Nico Hulkenberg
Pastor Maldonado
Nico Rosberg
Kamui Kobayashi
Mark Webber
Romain Grosjean
Sergio Perez
Felipe Massa
Heikki Kovalainen
Bruno Senna
Timo Glock
Michael Schumacher
Pedro de la Rosa
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Paul di Resta
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan


EDIT: Personally I think this is the toughest one of these I have ever done, the field is just incredible at the moment.

I think my top two stayed consistent and then I know who I think are the three next best but deciding on their order was bloody difficult. But the hardest part though was from Hulkenburg to Glock, in that group I literally think there is barely anything in it and each one of them is absolutely nip and tuck with one another. I probably have been a bit unfair on the Toro Rosso's but neither one has shown any flashes of brilliance and even Petrov-Pic have had one or two.

Out of that mid-field group I picked Hulkenburg and Maldonado as the 'best of the young guns' since I think they have both showed that they just have unbridled speed in spades, probably Pastor being slightly quicker on his day but Nico being more consistent and the smarter racer. Grosjean is blindedly quick but still has not shown improvement and is still erratic, but in time he could get up there. I am still not convinced Perez is better than Kobayashi, I think Kobayashi is quicker overall and more consistent and if he had got those tyre strategies at Sauber it could be him we see eating up that McLaren seat next year...I think his loss is a travesty.

Webber has slipped down more order as he continues to under perform, and this year despite excellent showings in Monaco and Silverstone, he has looked even worse, being involved in crashes and just looking generally looking clumsy, I used to rate him in the Top-5 but as the young guns come up, I can't see him hanging around in F1 for much longer.

Massa has actually moved up in my estimations but I am still not holding my breath to see whether he really can consistently deliver, we have yet to see him back to his best I think.

Paul Di Resta has also taken a big hit as I think he has failed to live up to his own hype, destroyed by Hulkenburg in this half of the season and only looking clumsier by the race. But possibly I am being slightly bias as I get annoyed at his constant stream of excuses as to why he cannot compete with Nico. While he deserves his seat without a doubt and is still a solid runner, I just do not think he is as competitive as The Hulks, The Mals, The Gros, The Kobs and The Perez's of the grid.

I do not think I will ever come up with a list that I am completely satisfied with for the current field as it is just so close, at the moment I think we have to many great drivers and not enough great seats!

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Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Räikkönen
Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Pastor Maldonado
Romain Grosjean
Jenson Button
Felipe Massa
Nico Hulkenberg
Kamui Kobayashi
Vitaly Petrov
Paul di Resta
Mark Webber
Sergio Perez
Bruno Senna
Nico Rosberg
Michael Schumacher
Charles Pic
Timo Glock
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Heikki Kovalainen
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan


Figuring out where to put Schumy was tough, so too Petrov.
With the STR twins I'm never sure if they're being hampered by the car or the car is being hampered by them (same as with Buemi and Algy).


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Kimi Räikkönen
Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Jenson Button
Michael Schumacher
Nico Hulkenberg
Heikki Kovalainen
Nico Rosberg
Felipe Massa
Sergio Perez
Kamui Kobayashi
Mark Webber
Pastor Maldonado
Romain Grosjean
Daniel Ricciardo
Paul di Resta
Bruno Senna
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Jean-Eric Vergne
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Timo Glock
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan


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Sebastian Vettel
Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Raikkonen
Jenson Button
Nico Hulkenberg
Mark Webber
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Felipe Massa
Daniel Ricciardo
Romain Grosjean
Sergio Perez
Kamui Kobayashi
Paul Di Resta
Pastor Maldonado
Jean Eric Vergne
Bruno Senna
Heikki Kovailanen
Vitaly Petrov
Timo Glock
Charles Pic
Pedro De La Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan
Jerome Di Ambrosio

Though I beleive that the perception does get affected by the performance of cars..!

I kept hamilton on the top first looking at the way he has driven in the last three races and in the beginning as well but, his three races Suzuka(though he suffered a problem), Korea and India were nothing to shout about and that in a way again proves me the point of him maybe lesser in the mental strength to compete for WDC at 100% like Vettel, Kimi and Fernando as he was again the best driver since Abu Dhabi...but, that's just my view point n I might be wrong.


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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastien Vettel
Kimi Raikkonen
Nico Hulkenberg
Mark Webber
Jenson Button
Sergio Perez
Kamui Kobayashi
Pastor Maldonado
Bruno Senna
Felipe Massa
Nico Rosberg
Micheal Schumacher
Romain Grosjean
Paul di Resta
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean Eric Vergne
Heikki Kovalainen
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Pedro De La Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:18 am 
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Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Raikkonen
Sebastian Vettel
Sergio Perez
Nico Hulkenberg
Romain Grosjean
Jenson Button
Felipe Massa
Pastor Maldonado
Kamui Kobayashi
Daniel Ricciardo
Nico Rosberg
Bruno Senna
Heikki Kovailanen
Paul Di Resta
Michael Schumacher
Pedro De La Rosa
Mark Webber
Jean Eric Vergne
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Narain Karthikeyan

Easy to make top 10, not so easy after since it´s impossible to completely isolate driver and car.
Highlights:
1- I really believe even Senna might have done better than Webber in the Redbull
2- Too hard to evaluate drivers on the 3 GP2 teams and some of them might have pottential to be higher on the list
3- I do see good promise on Ricciardo, despite what points can say
4- Watch out next season for Perez, I see him in the title fight
5- I´d really love to see Hulk get a top seat in 2014 to see what is he capable of
6- I expect 2012 to de the last season on the Vettel/Red Bull Dominance and I predict a Fierce fight between Macca and Ferrari for 2013
7- If Kamui gets a seat in Caterham, he will be just the same as Heikki, Good, decent, solid driver but nothing special
8- Too bad Senna is almost out of F1 I like the guy and he might get better of he has one more chance


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Fernando Alonso
Kimi Raikkonen
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Nico Hulkenberg
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Kamui Kobayashi
Pastor Maldonado
Sergio Perez
Paul Di Resta
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Felipe Massa
Romain Grosjean
Daniel Ricciardo
Charles Pic
Vitaly Petrov
Heikki Kovalainen
Jean Eric Vergne
Bruno Senna
Timo Glock
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro De La Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:54 am 
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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Pastor Maldonado
Nico Hulkenberg
Daniel Ricciardo
Romain Grosjean
Felipe Massa
Nico Rosberg
Sergio Perez
Kamui Kobayashi
Timo Glock
Michael Schumacher
Heikki Kovalainen
Bruno Senna
Vitaly Petrov
Pedro de la Rosa
Charles Pic
Paul di Resta
Jean-Eric Vergne
Jerome D'Ambrosio
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:11 am 
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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Felipe Massa
Nico Hulkenberg
Pastor Maldonado
Mark Webber
Nico Rosberg
Sergio Perez
Michael Schumacher
Daniel Ricciardo
Kamui Kobayashi
Romain Grosjean
Paul di Resta
Charles Pic
Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
Timo Glock
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan

This list would have been very different half-way through the season.

Based on the entire season. If Massa had been racing like he has recently for the entire season he would be up there with Raikkonen.

I have a gut feeling about Pic, Vergne and Ricciardo, I may be proven wrong next year. Pedro got destroyed by Kobayashi at Sauber, so I don't think beating Karthikeyan can say much about him

Webber has faded

D'Ambrosio... not enough time really

While Maldonado should have doubled his points tally for the season, his pace is clearly there. Senna although solid has mostly underperformed in that car

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:23 am 
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Looks like the List Your Favorite Drivers thread to me.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:32 am 
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Top 3 drivers

Hamilton
Alonso
Vettel
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Raikkönen
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Webber
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the rest

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Fernando Alonso
Kimi Räikkönen
Sebastian Vettel
Lewis Hamilton
Felipe Massa
Sergio Perez
Nico Hulkenberg
Michael Schumacher
Mark Webber
Kamui Kobayashi
Jenson Button
Pastor Maldonado
Daniel Ricciardo
Romain Grosjean
Paul di Resta
Charles Pic
Nico Rosberg
Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
Timo Glock
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Räikkönen
Mark Webber
Jenson Button
Felipe Massa
Sebastian Vettel
Sergio Perez
Nico Hulkenberg
Paul di Resta
Kamui Kobayashi
Romain Grosjean
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:50 am 
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Hamilton
Raikkonen
Alonso
Vettel
Hulkenberg
Massa
Maldonado
Button
Grosjean
Perez
Webber
Rosberg
PDLR
Kobayashi
Ricciardo
MS
Senna
Di Resta
Vergne
Petrov
Pic
Heikki
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:53 am 
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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Nico Hulkenberg
Mark Webber
Jenson Button
Pastor Maldonado
Kamui Kobayashi
Felipe Massa
Sergio Perez
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Daniel Ricciardo
Paul di Resta
Romain Grosjean
Heikki Kovalainen
Charles Pic
Vitaly Petrov
Bruno Senna
Timo Glock
Jean-Eric Vergne
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:56 am 
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DOLOMITE wrote:
chinki wrote:
@OP How can you effectively judge all the drivers one by one when the cars they drive are all different, some even 3-4 seconds a lap slower? In any case, this poll will obviously reflect the bias induced by short memories and recent races. If you take the poll just before the beginning of the new season, it would make much more sense but still the car being a variable conundrum cannot be overcome. A more accurate answer would be to club them in tiers I think.


you're missing the point - this is just to get a measure of public opinion. I do it each year ( as I said at the start) and see how public opinion shift over time. You don't have to explain your choices , just do a list.

Just seen you've done yours!

Schu 2nd best right now - really?! You're a brave man considering his teammate scored twice the points in the same car which seems to be your main concern!

And all I am saying is public opinion changes with each race and doing it at the end of year is of no special significance than doing it after any other race coz opinions are always heavily influenced based on recent memory.
If this exercise has to be at all meaningful, this should be done right before the start of the season when there are no recent events or races in the minds of the people. I just disagree on the timing of this exercise.
And let us not derail the thread on who I rate where, it is your exercise - so go ahead by all means.


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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
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Kimi Räikkönen
Nico Hulkenberg
Nico Rosberg
Felipe Massa
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Paul di Resta
Kamui Kobayashi
Sergio Perez
Michael Schumacher
Romain Grosjean
Pastor Maldonado
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Daniel Ricciardo
Heikki Kovalainen
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
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