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Alienturnedhuman

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:04 pm

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 9:39 pm
Posts: 1102

So far, 74 votes cast, only 64 counted though. All 10 people whose votes I was unable to count I have PMed with instructions on how to rectify the problem. I am now writing a script to process the data and once we have 100 countable votes I will start posting updates on the results...

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shogun

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:09 pm

Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:32 am
Posts: 12

Lewis Hamilton
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Felipe Massa
Heikki Kovalainen
Nico Rosberg
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Pastor Maldonado
Sebastian Vettel
Michael Schumacher
Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez
Kamui Kobayashi
Kimi Räikkönen
Pedro de la Rosa
Fernando Alonso
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Daniel Ricciardo
Charles Pic
Paul di Resta
Romain Grosjean
Bruno Senna
Narain Karthikeyan
Jean-Eric Vergne

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slowestofall

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:33 pm

Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:47 pm
Posts: 36

Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Nico Rosberg
Fernando Alonso
Sergio Perez
Jenson Button
Kimi Räikkönen
Michael Schumacher
Nico Hulkenberg
Mark Webber
Charles Pic
Paul di Resta
Timo Glock
Pastor Maldonado
Felipe Massa
Bruno Senna
Daniel Ricciardo
Kamui Kobayashi
Narain Karthikeyan
Vitaly Petrov
Heikki Kovalainen
Pedro de la Rosa
Jean-Eric Vergne
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Romain Grosjean

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Alienturnedhuman

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:25 pm

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 9:39 pm
Posts: 1102

2011 Results
Here are the results from the end of last year:

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Fernando Alonso   : |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sebastian Vettel  : |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Jenson Button     : |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lewis Hamilton    : ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Nico Rosberg      : |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Michael Schumacher: ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Mark Webber       : |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Adrian Sutil      : |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Heikki Kovalainen : |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Paul di Resta     : ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Kamui Kobayashi   : ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Jaime Alguersuari : ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sergio Perez      : ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Felipe Massa      : ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sebastien Buemi   : |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Nick Heidfeld     : ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Rubens Barrichello: ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Vitaly Petrov     : ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Timo Glock        : ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Bruno Senna       : |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Daniel Ricciardo  : |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Jarno Trulli      : |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Pastor Maldonado  : |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Vitantonio Liuzzi : |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Jerome d'Ambrosio : ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Pedro de la Rosa  : |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Karun Chandhok    : ||||||||||||||||
Narain Karthikeyan: ||||||||||||||

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benmc

Post subject: Re: Rate The Drivers 2012

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:55 pm

Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:17 pm
Posts: 838

callMEcrazy wrote:

If you wait too long people would forget about 2012 in specific and rank the drivers depending on what they think of them in general. That's not what this thread wants is it ? Its supposed to rank the drivers based on 2012.

But that's exactly what it isn't.

Threads like this are based on an overall perception, not just based on 2012. They are made to see how that perception changes, amongst many users, over time.

That said, an overall ranking doesn't necessarily mean you're ranking them on their entire careers. For example, if you're ranking Jenson Button now, you're hardly going to rate him significantly lower because he was beaten by Fisichella in 2001.

Similarly, if there was one particular area where a driver used to be weak, but has improved significantly, you're not going to rank him lower based on it. A good example is Vettel's racecraft, which was awful by World Champion standards two years ago, but has improved so significantly to the point that only the blindest of haters could downgrade him based on it.

That's basically the idea that Dolomite has always had with these threads. It's actually quite tough to rank some drivers though. Guys like Massa and Maldonado, who were pretty awful for much of the season, suddenly have these great turnarounds and you're left feeling guilty for downgrading them despite them enjoying a fairly long stretch of good form. With some guys, I have to hold myself back. As sure as I am that Massa will be significantly better in 2013 than he was in the past two years, I can't factor that into my rankings until I've seen it happen.

You make a good point though about forgetting things. I was writing a 'top 10 drivers of 2012' article for a fan based website, only considering performances this year, and realised I'd forgotten quite a few incidents, which made me change my original list.

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benmc

Post subject: Re: Rate The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:12 am

Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:17 pm
Posts: 838

@ATH - I'd like to change my list if it's possible for you to reflect that in the system

benmc wrote:

Original

Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Raikkonen
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Nico Rosberg
Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez
Michael Schumacher
Romain Grosjean
Felipe Massa
Kamui Kobayashi
Pastor Maldonado
Daniel Ricciardo
Paul di Resta
Heikki Kovalainen
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Jean-Eric Vergne
Bruno Senna
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome d'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

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Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Nico Rosberg
Michael Schumacher
Sergio Perez
Nico Hulkenberg
Romain Grosjean
Kamui Kobayashi
Felipe Massa
Pastor Maldonado
Paul di Resta
Heikki Kovalainen
Daniel Ricciardo
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Jean-Eric Vergne
Charles Pic
Bruno Senna
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

I just cannot seperate Schumacher, Perez and Hulk. Hulk is clearly the better driver on current form, but Perez showed great potential for a large portion of the season and I can't bring myself to let Hulk's error-free (but unspectacular) performances before Korea triumph over that. Schumacher has been error prone on occasions but faced a far better team-mate and would have been very evenly matched on points with him if not for misfortune at several races where he was set for big points.

Anyway, I had to think long and hard about those three. Other changes were obvious. This is my final ranking, the best and fairest I can possibly come up with.

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Alienturnedhuman

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:24 am

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 9:39 pm
Posts: 1102

I have updated your vote.

If anyone else wants to update their vote simply post a new list in the thread - the system I created will replace your old vote, if you just edit your old vote, unless you notify me via PM I will now know it has changed.

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H-Holloway

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:48 am

Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:14 am
Posts: 551

Looking at the 2011 Results, I guess Maldonado will be the biggest climber and Mark Webber will be the biggest faller.

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Romain Grosjean
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Alienturnedhuman

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:57 am

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 9:39 pm
Posts: 1102

H-Holloway wrote:

Looking at the 2011 Results, I guess Maldonado will be the biggest climber and Mark Webber will be the biggest faller.

You are 50% correct. Only counting drivers on both polls Mark Webber is 2 places higher than last year at the moment.

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M.Nader -DODZ-

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:36 am

Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:00 pm
Posts: 1931

Alienturnedhuman wrote:

H-Holloway wrote:

Looking at the 2011 Results, I guess Maldonado will be the biggest climber and Mark Webber will be the biggest faller.

You are 50% correct. Only counting drivers on both polls Mark Webber is 2 places higher than last year at the moment.

I would also say Button is one of the losers, along with Heikki

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Deep_blue

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:02 am

Joined: Sun May 27, 2012 4:08 am
Posts: 323

Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Raikkonen
Sebastian Vettel
Sergio Perez
Nico Hulkenberg
Romain Grosjean
Jenson Button
Felipe Massa
Pastor Maldonado
Kamui Kobayashi
Daniel Ricciardo
Nico Rosberg
Bruno Senna
Heikki Kovailanen
Paul Di Resta
Michael Schumacher
Pedro De La Rosa
Mark Webber
Jean Eric Vergne
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Narain Karthikeyan

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Deep_blue

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:02 am

Joined: Sun May 27, 2012 4:08 am
Posts: 323

Just had to add Jerome D´Ambrosio to make the vote count =)

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FormulaFun

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:15 am

Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:21 pm
Posts: 1089

Deep_blue wrote:

Just had to add Jerome D´Ambrosio to make the vote count =)

nah it still doesn't count i dont think, you have to copy and paste the actual list from the op, since the small differences make it unusable (such as the accent's on Kimi's name or the - between Jean-Eric etc)

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fatboy72

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:38 am

Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:20 pm
Posts: 178

Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Felipe Massa
Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez
Nico Rosberg
Michael Schumacher
Romain Grosjean
Paul di Resta
Kamui Kobayashi
Pastor Maldonado
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Daniel Ricciardo
Timo Glock
Charles Pic
Vitaly Petrov
Heikki Kovalainen
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

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AnRs

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:23 am

Joined: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:19 am
Posts: 222

Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Räikkönen
Lewis Hamilton
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Felipe Massa
Sergio Perez
Nico Hulkenberg
Nico Rosberg
Michael Schumacher
Romain Grosjean
Paul di Resta
Kamui Kobayashi
Pastor Maldonado
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Daniel Ricciardo
Timo Glock
Charles Pic
Vitaly Petrov
Heikki Kovalainen
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

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DrG

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:29 am

Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:45 am
Posts: 477

Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastien Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Felipe Massa
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Sergio Perez
Nico Hulkenberg
Romain Grosjean
Pastor Maldonado
Daniel Ricciardo
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Kamui Kobayashi
Paul di Resta
Heikki Kovalainen
Charles Pic
Vitaly Petrov
Pedro de la Rosa
Timo Glock
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

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RaisinChips

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:37 am

Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:55 pm
Posts: 567
Location: Tampere, F1nland

DrG wrote:

It's Sebastian, not Sebastien.

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sramesh81

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:24 pm

Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:08 pm
Posts: 7

Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Räikkönen
Lewis Hamilton
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Sergio Perez
Nico Hulkenberg
Michael Schumacher
Felipe Massa
Romain Grosjean
Pastor Maldonado
Paul di Resta
Nico Rosberg
Kamui Kobayashi
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Daniel Ricciardo
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Heikki Kovalainen
Timo Glock
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

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Alienturnedhuman

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:53 pm

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 9:39 pm
Posts: 1102

Here are the current standings, after 73 votes counted (I know I said I was waiting for 100 but I got impatient):

The score is a % of the maximum possible score (ie, 100% would be if everyone rated a driver #1)

Code:

Fernando Alonso    94.6% ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lewis Hamilton     94.2% ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sebastian Vettel   90.6% ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Kimi Räikkönen     88.4% |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Jenson Button      78.6% |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Nico Hulkenberg    74.6% ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Mark Webber        70.6% ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Nico Rosberg       67.1% |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sergio Perez       63.1% |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Felipe Massa       62.3% |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Pastor Maldonado   57.9% |||||||||||||||||||||||
Michael Schumacher 56.0% ||||||||||||||||||||||
Kamui Kobayashi    51.0% ||||||||||||||||||||
Romain Grosjean    48.3% |||||||||||||||||||
Paul di Resta      44.0% ||||||||||||||||||
Daniel Ricciardo   41.4% ||||||||||||||||
Heikki Kovalainen  36.4% ||||||||||||||
Timo Glock         31.5% |||||||||||||
Bruno Senna        31.2% ||||||||||||
Charles Pic        27.5% |||||||||||
Jean-Eric Vergne   26.9% |||||||||||
Vitaly Petrov      26.0% ||||||||||
Pedro de la Rosa   17.2% |||||||
Jerome D'Ambrosio  12.3% |||||
Narain Karthikeyan  7.2% |||

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callMEcrazy

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:39 pm

Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:16 am
Posts: 1003

Alienturnedhuman wrote:

Code:

Fernando Alonso    94.6% ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lewis Hamilton     94.2% ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sebastian Vettel   90.6% ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Kimi Räikkönen     88.4% |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Jenson Button      78.6% |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Nico Hulkenberg    74.6% ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Mark Webber        70.6% ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Nico Rosberg       67.1% |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sergio Perez       63.1% |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Felipe Massa       62.3% |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Pastor Maldonado   57.9% |||||||||||||||||||||||
Michael Schumacher 56.0% ||||||||||||||||||||||
Kamui Kobayashi    51.0% ||||||||||||||||||||
Romain Grosjean    48.3% |||||||||||||||||||
Paul di Resta      44.0% ||||||||||||||||||
Daniel Ricciardo   41.4% ||||||||||||||||
Heikki Kovalainen  36.4% ||||||||||||||
Timo Glock         31.5% |||||||||||||
Bruno Senna        31.2% ||||||||||||
Charles Pic        27.5% |||||||||||
Jean-Eric Vergne   26.9% |||||||||||
Vitaly Petrov      26.0% ||||||||||
Pedro de la Rosa   17.2% |||||||
Jerome D'Ambrosio  12.3% |||||
Narain Karthikeyan  7.2% |||

Thanks. I was getting kinda impatient too.

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mikeyg123

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:49 pm

Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:13 pm
Posts: 1972

Kovis the biggest faller. Interesting that despite a dire 75% of the year Massa has actually risen!

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DESCHAIN

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:09 pm

Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:13 pm
Posts: 4

Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Räikkönen
Sebastian Vettel
Nico Hulkenberg
Mark Webber
Jenson Button
Felipe Massa
Pastor Maldonado
Sergio Perez
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Kamui Kobayashi
Romain Grosjean
Paul di Resta
Bruno Senna
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Vitaly Petrov
Pedro de la Rosa
Heikki Kovalainen
Timo Glock
Charles Pic
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

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LH08WDC

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:00 pm

Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:27 pm
Posts: 4

Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Nico Hulkenberg
Mark Webber
Jenson Button
Sergio Perez
Kamui Kobayashi
Nico Rosberg
Michael Schumacher
Pastor Maldonado
Daniel Ricciardo
Paul di Resta
Felipe Massa
Romain Grosjean
Jean-Eric Vergne
Bruno Senna
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Heikki Kovalainen
Charles Pic
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

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FormulaFun

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:02 pm

Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:21 pm
Posts: 1089

mikeyg123 wrote:

Kovis the biggest faller. Interesting that despite a dire 75% of the year Massa has actually risen!

i thought that same thing, but then he was worse in 2011 in my eyes than 2012, because he was getting in a lot of collisions as well as being slow. I'm suprised that Maldonado is ranked so highly given his rep that he's acquired. I also wonder why Grosjean is ranked above Ricciardo, since both are great qualifies yet Grosjean was worse in races

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Daedroth

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:10 pm

Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:03 pm
Posts: 16

Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Felipe Massa
Lewis Hamilton
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Michael Schumacher
Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez
Kamui Kobayashi
Nico Rosberg
Daniel Ricciardo
Paul di Resta
Pastor Maldonado
Jean-Eric Vergne
Bruno Senna
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Heikki Kovalainen
Charles Pic
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan
Romain Grosjean

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Alienturnedhuman

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:58 pm

Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 9:39 pm
Posts: 1102

I have created this page to show you an up to date graph of the results, with information on mean, standard deviation of places and whose list is the closest match to public opinion:

http://randomperspective.com/DOLOMITE/

At the moment, well done RaisinChips for having the closest list. Obviously, someone could now just copy the list to get the closest match but that is just cheating...

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RaisinChips

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:16 pm

Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:55 pm
Posts: 567
Location: Tampere, F1nland

Alienturnedhuman wrote:

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wolfticket

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:25 pm

Joined: Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:03 pm
Posts: 347

Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Räikkönen
Nico Rosberg
Jenson Button
Pastor Maldonado
Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez
Mark Webber
Romain Grosjean
Felipe Massa
Kamui Kobayashi
Daniel Ricciardo
Paul di Resta
Michael Schumacher
Timo Glock
Heikki Kovalainen
Bruno Senna
Vitaly Petrov
Jean-Eric Vergne
Charles Pic
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan

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Covalent

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:45 am

Joined: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:07 pm
Posts: 2109

Alienturnedhuman wrote:

Interesting to see that Kimi has the smallest SD, while it's no surprise that Maldonado and Grosjean have the highest ones!

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MutuaMadrilena

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:02 am

Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:11 pm
Posts: 1

Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Felipe Massa
Nico Rosberg
Michael Schumacher
Romain Grosjean
Sergio Perez
Nico Hulkenberg
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Pastor Maldonado
Paul di Resta
Timo Glock
Daniel Ricciardo
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Charles Pic
Vitaly Petrov
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan

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Alienturnedhuman

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:18 pm

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Covalent wrote:

Alienturnedhuman wrote:

Interesting to see that Kimi has the smallest SD, while it's no surprise that Maldonado and Grosjean have the highest ones!

Kimi has the smallest SD because nearly everyone has ALO/HAM/VET as their top three, but in differing orders. Kimi is nearly always fourth, and then there is a huge gap (the biggest gap between two places) all the way to fifth. As a result, he has the highest SD.

With regards to Maldonado and Grosjean, well while the top four are locked out, and the bottom three are usually the same as well, it means the midfield is more spread. However, the further down the list a driver is the more likely their position will be different, because most people group similar drivers together however if there is one strange positioning (relative to the 'norm') it will push that group out by one and also make a big difference to that driver. Perez, Grosjean and Maldonado are the drivers people are most split on in this regard. I rated Maldonado highly because of his qualifying performances late in the year, and the poll is meant to reflect 'now' - I think that his win followed by his bollocking from Williams for his erratic behaviour in mid season have helped calm him down and his strengths are shining through. But others will look at his erratic behaviour over two years and understandably rank him much lower. I ranked Perez lower despite having a better year as since he got his McLaren drive his motivation seems to have dropped off. But others will look at his outstanding year prior to the announcement and rate accordingly.

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ManicOversteer

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:42 pm

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Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Räikkönen
Felipe Massa
Jenson Button
Sergio Perez
Mark Webber
Nico Hulkenberg
Romain Grosjean
Pastor Maldonado
Kamui Kobayashi
Michael Schumacher
Daniel Ricciardo
Nico Rosberg
Bruno Senna
Paul di Resta
Charles Pic
Heikki Kovalainen
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Pedro de la Rosa
Jean-Eric Vergne
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

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jammin78

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:52 pm

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Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Nico Hulkenberg
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Romain Grosjean
Pastor Maldonado
Felipe Massa
Kamui Kobayashi
Nico Rosberg
Bruno Senna
Michael Schumacher
Mark Webber
Sergio Perez
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Heikki Kovalainen
Paul di Resta
Charles Pic
Vitaly Petrov
Timo Glock
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

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SilverPower

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:16 pm

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Location: Toronto, Canada

Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Nico Hulkenberg
Jenson Button
Romain Grosjean
Pastor Maldonado
Mark Webber
Felipe Massa
Kamui Kobayashi
Nico Rosberg
Sergio Perez
Bruno Senna
Michael Schumacher
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Heikki Kovalainen
Paul di Resta
Charles Pic
Vitaly Petrov
Timo Glock
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

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sandyf1

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:21 pm

Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:10 am
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Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Räikkönen
Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Nico Hulkenberg
Pastor Maldonado
Jenson Button
Sergio Perez
Romain Grosjean
Mark Webber
Nico Rosberg
Felipe Massa
Kamui Kobayashi
Daniel Ricciardo
Michael Schumacher
Jean-Eric Vergne
Paul di Resta
Charles Pic
Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
Pedro de la Rosa
Timo Glock
Bruno Senna
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

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luieluv

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:40 pm

Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:53 am
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Kimi Räikkönen
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez
Pastor Maldonado
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Nico Rosberg
Michael Schumacher
Romain Grosjean
Felipe Massa
Kamui Kobayashi
Charles Pic
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Paul di Resta
Heikki Kovalainen
Bruno Senna
Vitaly Petrov
Pedro de la Rosa
Timo Glock
Narain Karthikeyan
Jerome D'Ambrosio

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Warheart01

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:53 pm

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Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Räikkönen
Sebastian Vettel
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Nico Hulkenberg
Nico Rosberg
Sergio Perez
Pastor Maldonado
Felipe Massa
Romain Grosjean
Kamui Kobayashi
Daniel Ricciardo
Michael Schumacher
Paul di Resta
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Charles Pic
Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
Pedro de la Rosa
Timo Glock
Narain Karthikeyan
Jérôme d'Ambrosio

Edit: Jérôme d'Ambrosio added! :thumbup:

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sinstorm

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:33 pm

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mcdo

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:35 am

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Location: Ireland

lunatic wrote:

Bentley2807 wrote:

Sebastian Vettel
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Kimi Räikkönen
Mark Webber
Sergio Perez
Jenson Button
Paul di Resta
Felipe Massa
Nico Rosberg
Bruno Senna
Pastor Maldonado
Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Nico Hulkenberg
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Romain Grosjean
Michael Schumacher
Charles Pic
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
Timo Glock
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan

Another one that deserves :lol:

, i guess this is just a rank of who you hate and who you like

Di Resta & Senna achieved things that Alonso & Hamilton could only dream of!

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F1yer

Post subject: Re: Rank The Drivers 2012

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:46 am

Joined: Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:49 pm
Posts: 255

Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Räikkönen
Lewis Hamilton
Mark Webber
Jenson Button
Nico Hulkenberg
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Paul di Resta
Timo Glock
Romain Grosjean
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Pastor Maldonado
Felipe Massa
Sergio Perez
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Daniel Ricciardo
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan

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