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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:37 am 
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Fernando Alonso
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Lewis Hamilton
Nico Hulkenberg
Jenson Button
Nico Rosberg
Mark Webber
Paul di Resta
Felipe Massa
Timo Glock
Daniel Ricciardo
Bruno Senna
Sergio Perez
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
Michael Schumacher
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Sebastian Vettel
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Lewis Hamilton
Nico Hulkenberg
Jenson Button
Nico Rosberg
Mark Webber
Paul di Resta
Felipe Massa
Timo Glock
Daniel Ricciardo
Bruno Senna
Sergio Perez
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
Michael Schumacher
Pastor Maldonado
Jean-Eric Vergne
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:07 am 
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Unbiased_Button_Fan wrote:
M.Nader -DODZ- wrote:
I hope you explained your choices on purpose so that your vote is not counted.


:blush: I missed that rule

Ok my serious vote is:

Jenson Button
Lewis Hamilton
Paul di Resta
Kimi Räikkönen
Pastor Maldonado
Nico Rosberg
Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez
Fernando Alonso
Heikki Kovalainen
Romain Grosjean
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Daniel Ricciardo
Sebastian Vettel
Timo Glock
Kamui Kobayashi
Charles Pic
Felipe Massa
Narain Karthikeyan
Michael Schumacher
Bruno Senna
Vitaly Petrov
Jean-Eric Vergne
Mark Webber


stop.

Please don't take this vote into your system DOLOMITE, it is massively retarded, it's youtube comment tier retarded in fact


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:44 am 
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For me, if Raikkonen hadn't done such a poor job (definitely in comparison to his team mate and mainly because if he'd delivered in qualifying, he'd definitely have won more than just one race), I'd rate him inside the top 3, but because of that, I've got to put him 4th, behind Hamilton, Vettel and Alonso.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:23 am 
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People can continue to contribute to this thread in light of what happened on page 2 as I am happy to collate and process the data for this poll, so don't feel that your vote is a waste of time.


FormulaFun wrote:
Unbiased_Button_Fan wrote:
M.Nader -DODZ- wrote:
I hope you explained your choices on purpose so that your vote is not counted.


:blush: I missed that rule

Ok my serious vote is:

Jenson Button
Lewis Hamilton
Paul di Resta
Kimi Räikkönen
Pastor Maldonado
Nico Rosberg
Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez
Fernando Alonso
Heikki Kovalainen
Romain Grosjean
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Daniel Ricciardo
Sebastian Vettel
Timo Glock
Kamui Kobayashi
Charles Pic
Felipe Massa
Narain Karthikeyan
Michael Schumacher
Bruno Senna
Vitaly Petrov
Jean-Eric Vergne
Mark Webber


stop.

Please don't take this vote into your system DOLOMITE, it is massively retarded, it's youtube comment tier retarded in fact

All votes have to be counted, even the stupid ones. If any votes are discounted, however illogical or biased they are, then the poll has been influenced and is a reflection of the poll collator's opinion (as votes he/she considers 'wrong' will be shaped by their opinion)

It should be noted, last time this poll was run people openly declared their intention to 'sabotage' it by posting random order lists etc... yet the forum pretty much universally agreed the end result was a reflection of public opinion. So long as there is a high enough proportion of sensible votes the votes of the insane are drowned out.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:05 pm 
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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Räikkönen
Sebastian Vettel
Nico Hulkenberg
Jenson Button
Sergio Perez
Pastor Maldonado
Mark Webber
Kamui Kobayashi
Felipe Massa
Paul di Resta
Romain Grosjean
Bruno Senna
Daniel Ricciardo
Nico Rosberg
Charles Pic
Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
Michael Schumacher
Timo Glock
Pedro de la Rosa
Jean-Eric Vergne
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:16 pm 
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Alienturnedhuman wrote:
People can continue to contribute to this thread in light of what happened on page 2 as I am happy to collate and process the data for this poll, so don't feel that your vote is a waste of time.


FormulaFun wrote:
Unbiased_Button_Fan wrote:
M.Nader -DODZ- wrote:
I hope you explained your choices on purpose so that your vote is not counted.


:blush: I missed that rule

Ok my serious vote is:

Jenson Button
Lewis Hamilton
Paul di Resta
Kimi Räikkönen
Pastor Maldonado
Nico Rosberg
Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez
Fernando Alonso
Heikki Kovalainen
Romain Grosjean
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Daniel Ricciardo
Sebastian Vettel
Timo Glock
Kamui Kobayashi
Charles Pic
Felipe Massa
Narain Karthikeyan
Michael Schumacher
Bruno Senna
Vitaly Petrov
Jean-Eric Vergne
Mark Webber


stop.

Please don't take this vote into your system DOLOMITE, it is massively retarded, it's youtube comment tier retarded in fact

All votes have to be counted, even the stupid ones. If any votes are discounted, however illogical or biased they are, then the poll has been influenced and is a reflection of the poll collator's opinion (as votes he/she considers 'wrong' will be shaped by their opinion)

It should be noted, last time this poll was run people openly declared their intention to 'sabotage' it by posting random order lists etc... yet the forum pretty much universally agreed the end result was a reflection of public opinion. So long as there is a high enough proportion of sensible votes the votes of the insane are drowned out.


The first 2 posts in this page do seem like a copy though except for a single change, maybe an error in post? perhaps you should PM the second poster as maybe he forgot to edit


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:40 pm 
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DOLOMITE wrote:
I started to type something like "sorry if I offended you somehow" but I stopped for the simple reason that it would be total bullshit. I'm not sorry, I don't really know your problem is with this thread, and frankly I don't give a crap. So you know what? Over to you. Do it in a "useful" way. A "no-brainer" free, all encompassing, unbiased, 100% objective analysis. One with a mathematically sound and proven methodology that will render any questioning of it's legitimacy redundant. We can all bow to your unquestionable superiority.

The quality has been declining on this forum for a while and I don't get as much time to post as I like. Coming back to a thread I started and seeing some sugarplum who doesn' even know me label the exercise useless hardly inspires me, so that's it, I'm done. Thanks to those who took the time to partake - hopefully someone will pick it up. I'll post back with the standings from previous years for comparison and then get on with enjoying the real world.

Whoa, where did that come from? Just to put some perspective to my opinions. People create polls and threads asking for the best of this and the best of that all the time and I dont have a problem with that even though they are more useless than this thread. And guess why? Because I have immense respect for your contribution to this forum and the stats you have collected over the years and share with us from time to time. I just felt that somebody who goes about collecting data in a serious manner is not getting it right this time and that is why I voiced my opinion here.

I cannot help it if you feel offended and just like you, I am not sorry about voicing my opinion. But I will say this much that the data you have collected over the years (and maybe decades) is the most impressive collection I have seen yet and your sharing it from time to time with us is highly appreciated by me :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:27 pm 
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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Raikkonen
Jenson Button
Nico Hulkenberg
Mark Webber
Sergio Perez
Felipe Massa
Pastor Maldonado
Daniel Ricciardo
Nico Rosberg
Michael Schumacher
Romain Grosjean
Kamui Kobayashi
Charles Pic
Vitaly Petrov
Bruno Senna
Paul di Resta
Jean Eric Vergne
Pedro de la Rosa
Timo Glock
Heikki Kovalainen
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:30 pm 
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chinki wrote:
DOLOMITE wrote:
I started to type something like "sorry if I offended you somehow" but I stopped for the simple reason that it would be total bullshit. I'm not sorry, I don't really know your problem is with this thread, and frankly I don't give a crap. So you know what? Over to you. Do it in a "useful" way. A "no-brainer" free, all encompassing, unbiased, 100% objective analysis. One with a mathematically sound and proven methodology that will render any questioning of it's legitimacy redundant. We can all bow to your unquestionable superiority.

The quality has been declining on this forum for a while and I don't get as much time to post as I like. Coming back to a thread I started and seeing some sugarplum who doesn' even know me label the exercise useless hardly inspires me, so that's it, I'm done. Thanks to those who took the time to partake - hopefully someone will pick it up. I'll post back with the standings from previous years for comparison and then get on with enjoying the real world.

Whoa, where did that come from? Just to put some perspective to my opinions. People create polls and threads asking for the best of this and the best of that all the time and I dont have a problem with that even though they are more useless than this thread. And guess why? Because I have immense respect for your contribution to this forum and the stats you have collected over the years and share with us from time to time. I just felt that somebody who goes about collecting data in a serious manner is not getting it right this time and that is why I voiced my opinion here.

I cannot help it if you feel offended and just like you, I am not sorry about voicing my opinion. But I will say this much that the data you have collected over the years (and maybe decades) is the most impressive collection I have seen yet and your sharing it from time to time with us is highly appreciated by me :thumbup:


Dolomite, i've participated on the last 3 of these and have always found it interesting to see the stock of the various drivers go up and down over the years... Yes, this poll won't come up with how good the drivers are, but it WILL come up with how good we perceive the drivers are. And the more people that reply (even with biased views) the more they will likely reflect the views of those in the sport (who will always have biased views themselves).

Ferrari, Mclaren & Red Bull drivers usually score the most points (personally i never understand how Webber scores so highly), but Massa was hit hard last year, it'll be interesting to see how much he has bounced back after a strong end to the season. Where has Raikkonen fed back in, Who out of Perez, Hulk & Maldonado has done better?

I don't argue too much with people on this forum, but the last person to irritate me was the same one who irritated you, so i advise you ignore them, and just carry on doing what you do best, stats!

Maybe, the stats aren't scientifically proven, but they are interesting...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:28 pm 
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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastien Vettel
Nico Hulkenberg
Kimi Räikkönen
Pastor Maldonaldo
Sergio Perez
Nico Rosberg
Jenson Button
Daniel Ricciardo
Mark Webber
Felipe Massa
Romain Grosjean
Kamui Kobayashi
Michael Schumacher
Vitaly Petrov
Paul di Resta
Jean-Eric Vergne
Heikki Kovalainen
Charles Pic
Bruno Senna
Timo Glock
Pedro de la Rosa
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:28 pm 
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I love these.

Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Romain Grosjean
Jenson Button
Nico Hulkenberg
Pastor Maldonado
Sergio Perez
Felipe Massa
Mark Webber
Nico Rosberg
Paul di Resta
Timo Glock
Michael Schumacher
Heikki Kovalainen
Jean-Eric Vergne
Bruno Senna
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Daniel Ricciardo
Kamui Kobayashi
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan


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Sebastian Vettel
Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Nico Hulkenberg
Nico Rosberg
Paul di Resta
Sergio Perez
Kamui Kobayashi
Mark Webber
Heikki Kovalainen
Michael Schumacher
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Bruno Senna
Pedro de la Rosa
Felipe Massa
Timo Glock
Romain Grosjean
Pastor Maldonado
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Narain Karthikeyan


DOLOMITE, don't let the unappreciative ones get to you, this forum cannot afford to lose any more of the "quality" members!!!

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Yeah, DOLO haters gonna hate, doing these at the end of the year feel like a great way to round of the year and evaluate public opinion on how people feel the drivers are ranked, its great! So what if some people don't understand it, it isn't compulsory


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Sebastian Vettel
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Kimi Räikkönen
Mark Webber
Sergio Perez
Jenson Button
Paul di Resta
Felipe Massa
Nico Rosberg
Bruno Senna
Pastor Maldonado
Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Nico Hulkenberg
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Romain Grosjean
Michael Schumacher
Charles Pic
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
Timo Glock
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
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Unbiased_Button_Fan wrote:
M.Nader -DODZ- wrote:
I hope you explained your choices on purpose so that your vote is not counted.


:blush: I missed that rule

Ok my serious vote is:

Jenson Button
Lewis Hamilton
Paul di Resta
Kimi Räikkönen
Pastor Maldonado
Nico Rosberg
Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez
Fernando Alonso
Heikki Kovalainen
Romain Grosjean
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Daniel Ricciardo
Sebastian Vettel
Timo Glock
Kamui Kobayashi
Charles Pic
Felipe Massa
Narain Karthikeyan
Michael Schumacher
Bruno Senna
Vitaly Petrov
Jean-Eric Vergne
Mark Webber

Oh. My. God.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:27 pm 
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2012 Grid

Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Felipe Massa
Mark Webber
Nico Rosberg
Michael Schumacher
Sergio Perez
Romain Grosjean
Nico Hulkenberg
Kamui Kobayashi
Paul di Resta
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Jean-Eric Vergne
Daniel Ricciardo
Heikki Kovalainen
Bruno Senna
Pastor Maldonado
Charles Pic
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan
Jerome D'Ambrosio


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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastien Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Felipe Massa
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Sergio Perez
Nico Hulkenberg
Romain Grosjean
Pastor Maldonado
Daniel Ricciardo
Bruno Senna
Kamui Kobayashi
Charles Pic
Vitaly Petrov
Jean Eric Vergne
Paul di Resta
Heikki Kovalainen
Pedro De La Rosa
Timo Glock
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan

EDIT: as per instructions.

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On top of my vote, I can't believe we've lost who is probably one of the best members this forum has seen in it's time because of the complete pettiness of one person. If you don't like the timing of the thread or it's content just ignore it and get on with life. Don't start whinging about it for no apparent reason.

Dolo, I hope you return for 2013. At least visit the in depth section where your comments will always be appreciated by everyone. Thanks Alien for keeping this up on his behalf too.

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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Nico Hulkenberg
Jenson Button
Pastor Maldonado
Nico Rosberg
Felipe Massa
Mark Webber
Michael Schumacher
Sergio Perez
Paul di Resta
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Kamui Kobayashi
Romain Grosjean
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Daniel Ricciardo
Heikki Kovalainen
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan
Jerome D'Ambrosio


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Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Räikkönen
Lewis Hamilton
Nico Hulkenberg
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Sergio Perez
Felipe Massa
Nico Rosberg
Michael Schumacher
Pastor Maldonado
Paul di Resta
Romain Grosjean
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Kamui Kobayashi
Bruno Senna
Vitaly Petrov
Heikki Kovalainen
Timo Glock
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Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Nico Hulkenberg
Mark Webber
Jenson Button
Sergio Perez
Kamui Kobayashi
Nico Rosberg
Michael Schumacher
Pastor Maldonado
Daniel Ricciardo
Paul di Resta
Felipe Massa
Romain Grosjean
Jean-Eric Vergne
Bruno Senna
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Heikki Kovalainen
Charles Pic
Pedro de la Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan


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VERY IMPORTANT
You need to copy and paste the names from the original post so they match EXACTLY to the the spelling of the original list (and capitalisation) as the system compares data strings and adds a vote to the matching result

so:

Paul di Resta is differ to Paul Di Resta

and

Kimi Räikkönen is different to Kimi Raikkonen

Not to mention typos or spelling errors if you manually enter them. The easiest solution is to copy the list from DOLOMITE's original post and then rearrange them then they are certain to match exactly. If your vote does not match exactly then it won't be counted because the system will not process it (I should be able to compensate for capitalisation but typos, spelling errors and not putting the accents on letters is not possible by automation)


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Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Narain Karthikeyan
Kimi Raikkonen
Mark Webber
Nico Hulkenberg
Nico Rosberg
Sergio Perez
Michael Schumacher
Paul Di Resta
Romain Grosjean
Daniel Ricciardo
Pastor Maldanado
Felipe Massa
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Jean Eric Vergne
Charles Pic
Timo Glock
Bruno Senna
Vitaly Petrov
Pedro De La Rosa
Jerome D'Ambrosia
Jenson Button
Sebastian Vettel


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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Räikkönen
Sebastian Vettel
Nico Hulkenburg
Pastor Maldonado
Nico Rosberg
Felipe Massa
Sergio Perez
Jenson Button
Daniel Ricciardo
Timo Glock
Paul Di Resta
Kamui Kobayashi
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Heikki Kovalainen
Jean-Eric Vergne
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain kharthikeyan
Michael Schumacher
Mark Webber
Romain Grosjean
Bruno Senna
Jerome dambrosio

It's difficult to rate the lower teams, but I've done my best, I Think Glock has done a great job this year! The Big names towards the bottom are by virtue of either being thoroughly outperformed or being in General a menace to the track!!! Maldonado has been hit and miss, but being able to change the perception from a Pay Driver to one who deserves his spot on tale t and speed is why he is so high up. Vettel would be lower due to the number of mistakes but managed to win the title, which must count for something! Overall, I have also tried to rate the drivers in terms of improvement. Perez, Kobayashi and Di Resta have not really improved much since the season Begun, whereas Maldonado and Hulkenburg have improved over the year. Most improved Driver goes to Lewis Hamilton. Who has Reduced the number of costly mistakes he has made down massively from the last two years. Jenson has been wildly inconsistent and wa never even close to challenging for the title after Bahrain!


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chinki wrote:
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M.Nader -DODZ- wrote:
chinki wrote:
@OP How can you effectively judge all the drivers one by one when the cars they drive are all different, some even 3-4 seconds a lap slower? In any case, this poll will obviously reflect the bias induced by short memories and recent races. If you take the poll just before the beginning of the new season, it would make much more sense but still the car being a variable conundrum cannot be overcome. A more accurate answer would be to club them in tiers I think.


He does it before and after every season to see where things stand, you may think it has bias but due to the number of contributers the results are not screwed and can be quite fair on how people rate the drivers


Errr of course its bias...its based on opinion.....


The issue of bias in this context is generally thought to be on eof nationality - i.e the majority of posters are british so favour british drivers. It doesn't seem to follow that though Alonso tops the polls consistently and although Hamilton gets a high placing, it's not because he's British, it's because he's good!

It absolutely is opinions, yes - that's exactly what I'm after. How good to people think these drivers are. The WDC tells us who won, but it's the difference between that table and the results of this poll that make for interesting reading. PLus who's had a good enough season to increase their stock and vice versa.

But useless nonethless. It is a no brainer that PDLR could not increase his stock and Vettel's couldnt dip any. As I said, this exercise at this point is heavily biased based on the outcome of the season and recent races and you can bury your head in the sand as much as you like, but that is not going to change. People's opinions are most meaningful when they are taken farthest from the event in question, so that is why I said it makes sense to run this exercise before the next season starts. Since you claim to do it before and after every season, have you noticed any difference between the results even though there was no racing in between? And if yes, I wonder why you do it at the end of every season as I already explained.


Scientifically that's not true. Although you are right that at this point the last race might have a big impact, that doesn't mean the longer the better. If you wait too long people would forget about 2012 in specific and rank the drivers depending on what they think of them in general. That's not what this thread wants is it ? Its supposed to rank the drivers based on 2012.

And on a separate topic, DOLOMITE please don't quit. :)

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Fernando Alonso
Sebastian Vettel
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Räikkönen
Sergio Perez
Nico Hulkenberg
Jenson Button
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Mark Webber
Romain Grosjean
Kamui Kobayashi
Pastor Maldonado
Paul di Resta
Felipe Massa
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Daniel Ricciardo
Charles Pic
Timo Glock
Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
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Narain Karthikeyan
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:15 am 
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Michael Schumacher
Sebastian Vettel
Pastor Maldanado
Mark Webber
Nico Hulkenberg
Kimi Raikkonen
Sergio Perez
Romain Grosjean
Timo Glock
Nico Rosberg
Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
Felipe Massa
Kamui Kobayashi
Jenson Button
Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso
Jean Eric Vergne
Daniel Ricciardo
Jerome D'Ambrosia
Charles Pic
Pedro De La Rosa
Paul Di Resta
Bruno Senna
Narain Karthikeyan

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:34 am 
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Sebastian Vettel/Kimi Räikkönen
Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso/Jenson Button
Nico Rosberg/Mark Webber/Felipe Massa
Sergio Perez
Nico Hulkenberg/Timo Glock
Paul di Resta/Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
Bruno Senna
Kamui Kobayashi/Pastor Maldonado
Charles Pic/Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Romain Grosjean
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan



Michael Schumacher (class of his own)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:44 am 
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Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Sebastian Vettel
Kimi Räikkönen
Nico Rosberg
Mark Webber
Jenson Button
Kamui Kobayashi
Nico Hulkenberg
Michael Schumacher
Daniel Ricciardo
Paul di Resta
Felipe Massa
Sergio Perez
Pedro de la Rosa
Romain Grosjean
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Pastor Maldonado
Heikki Kovalainen
Timo Glock
Charles Pic
Vitaly Petrov
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Narain Karthikeyan


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:18 pm 
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DOLOMITE wrote:
<snip> I started to type something like "sorry if I offended you somehow" but I stopped for the simple reason that it would be total bullshit. I'm not sorry, I don't really know your problem is with this thread, and frankly I don't give a crap. So you know what? Over to you. Do it in a "useful" way. A "no-brainer" free, all encompassing, unbiased, 100% objective analysis. One with a mathematically sound and proven methodology that will render any questioning of it's legitimacy redundant. We can all bow to your unquestionable superiority.

The quality has been declining on this forum for a while and I don't get as much time to post as I like. Coming back to a thread I started and seeing some sugarplum who doesn' even know me label the exercise useless hardly inspires me, so that's it, I'm done. Thanks to those who took the time to partake - hopefully someone will pick it up. I'll post back with the standings from previous years for comparison and then get on with enjoying the real world.


8O :lol: :lol: quality rant!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Lewis Hamilton
Mark Webber
Felipe Massa
Nico Hulkenberg
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Romain Grosjean
Pastor Maldonado
Sergio Perez
Paul di Resta
Daniel Ricciardo
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:57 pm 
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Fernando Alonso
Kimi Räikkönen
Sebastian Vettel
Lewis Hamilton
Mark Webber
Nico Hulkenberg
Jenson Button
Sergio Perez
Felipe Massa
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Romain Grosjean
Bruno Senna
Pastor Maldonado
Jean-Eric Vergne
Kamui Kobayashi
Daniel Ricciardo
Paul di Resta
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Heikki Kovalainen
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Timo Glock
Narain Karthikeyan


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:22 pm 
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Sebastian Vettel
Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Kimi Räikkönen
Jenson Button
Mark Webber
Felipe Massa
Nico Hulkenberg
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Romain Grosjean
Pastor Maldonado
Sergio Perez
Paul di Resta
Daniel Ricciardo
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan

Sebastian Vettel - mainly because of abu dahabi and brazil
Fernando Alonso - mainly because Massa had to do everything in the last few races
Lewis Hamilton - very unlucky, could be 1st but no way to tell
Kimi Raikkonen - very consistent but slow in the quali
Jenson Button - showed for a few races, invisible in the most of them
Mark Webber - the same
Felipe Massa - came alive at the last few races, unfortunately, had to bend over for Alonso


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:50 pm 
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It is very important that people follow the instructions in the original thread. This is already quite a time consuming job collating all the data and not following the instructions either only increases the amount of work or makes it impossible for your vote to be counted. For example:
bourbon19 wrote:
Sebastian Vettel/Kimi Räikkönen
Lewis Hamilton
Fernando Alonso/Jenson Button
Nico Rosberg/Mark Webber/Felipe Massa
Sergio Perez
Nico Hulkenberg/Timo Glock
Paul di Resta/Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
Bruno Senna
Kamui Kobayashi/Pastor Maldonado
Charles Pic/Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Romain Grosjean
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan



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All drivers need to be listed on individual rankings for your vote to be counted, and make your list CONTINUOUS without spaces.

superuser wrote:
Sebastian Vettel - mainly because of abu dahabi and brazil
Fernando Alonso - mainly because Massa had to do everything in the last few races
Lewis Hamilton - very unlucky, could be 1st but no way to tell
Kimi Raikkonen - very consistent but slow in the quali
Jenson Button - showed for a few races, invisible in the most of them
Mark Webber - the same
Felipe Massa - came alive at the last few races, unfortunately, had to bend over for Alonso
Nico Hulkenberg
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg
Romain Grosjean
Pastor Maldonado
Sergio Perez
Paul di Resta
Daniel Ricciardo
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Bruno Senna
Jean-Eric Vergne
Timo Glock
Vitaly Petrov
Charles Pic
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan

Please add comments AFTER the list. The list must ONLY contain the drivers' name, copied and pasted EXACTLY from DOLOMITE's original list


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:30 pm 
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Haribo wrote:
Top 3 drivers

Hamilton
Alonso
Vettel
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Raikkönen
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Webber
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the rest

Needless to say, but votes like this cannot and will not be counted. ALL DRIVERS must be listed, including Jerome D'Ambrosio who a few people have missed out (because they didn't copy and paste the original list!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:32 pm 
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Alienturnedhuman wrote:
Haribo wrote:
Top 3 drivers

Hamilton
Alonso
Vettel
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......
.......

Raikkönen
.....
Webber
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the rest

Needless to say, but votes like this cannot and will not be counted. ALL DRIVERS must be listed, including Jerome D'Ambrosio who a few people have missed out (because they didn't copy and paste the original list!


This must be so frustrating for you! I can't believe how many people cannot follow simple instructions

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:42 pm 
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coulthards chin wrote:
Alienturnedhuman wrote:
Haribo wrote:
Top 3 drivers

Hamilton
Alonso
Vettel
.....
......
.......

Raikkönen
.....
Webber
.....
.....
the rest

Needless to say, but votes like this cannot and will not be counted. ALL DRIVERS must be listed, including Jerome D'Ambrosio who a few people have missed out (because they didn't copy and paste the original list!


This must be so frustrating for you! I can't believe how many people cannot follow simple instructions


i know right! it isn't hard, but it just goes to show how many people don't even read the OP before they post, explains a lot that's for sure


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:51 pm 
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Unbiased_Button_Fan wrote:
Jenson Button - Another Fantasic year again from Jenson, forced Lewis out of the team, McLaren all his now
Lewis Hamilton - OK final year at Macca, still too many crahes and retirements however
Paul di Resta - Good solid drives for FI again this season
Kimi Räikkönen - Good year, it looked like he was going to be upstaged by Grojean early on, but he's establised team leader at Lotus now
Pastor Maldonado - Suprise package of the year for me, future world champion material if he can cut out the mistakes
Nico Rosberg - Got a win, dissapointing 2nd half of the year, although he can blame the car for that
Nico Hulkenberg - some good drives towards end of the year
Sergio Perez - Very solid year, leading Sauber driver - deserves a drive with McLaren
Fernando Alonso - I hate ranking FA this high, but he did do well to stay in the championship for so long with a poor car
Heikki Kovalainen - the beat driver for the new teams, travisty if he's not in F1 next year
Romain Grosjean - some good quali performances, but too many race incidents for me
Pedro de la Rosa - Solid performace in a very bad car
Jerome D'Ambrosio - I've put him around the middle,as can't really judge him on 1 race
Daniel Ricciardo - Solid performace in a midfield car
Sebastian Vettel - Solid performace in a very good car
Timo Glock - Wasted at Marussia
Kamui Kobayashi - KK disapointing this year, he's become too passive for me, just not like him
Charles Pic - An OK year, I would like to see him in a quicker car
Felipe Massa - Came back towards the end of the year, doesn't make up for the fact that he was dire early on
Narain Karthikeyan - Has had a difficult job with the car
Michael Schumacher - Shame he's going, I was enjoying watching him making a fool of himself
Bruno Senna - He has the name, that's all he has
Vitaly Petrov - Not in same league as Heikki
Jean-Eric Vergne - Far too many Q1 knockouts
Mark Webber - Never fails to make the best car on the grid look mediocre
:lol: :lol: :lol: and you call yourself unbiased? i'm a button fan but your reasoning if frankly laughable,

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:57 pm 
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FormulaFun wrote:
coulthards chin wrote:

This must be so frustrating for you! I can't believe how many people cannot follow simple instructions


i know right! it isn't hard, but it just goes to show how many people don't even read the OP before they post, explains a lot that's for sure


Frankly, it was a little confusing whether you copy and pasted the names and started moving them around or wrote the drivers names yourself because Jean-Éric Vergne was Jean-Eric Vergne and Sergio Pérez was Sergio Perez. Yet Kimi Räikkönen is correctly spelled with the ä and ö letters.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:59 pm 
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Bentley2807 wrote:
Sebastian Vettel
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Kimi Räikkönen
Mark Webber
Sergio Perez
Jenson Button
Paul di Resta
Felipe Massa
Nico Rosberg
Bruno Senna
Pastor Maldonado
Fernando Alonso
Lewis Hamilton
Nico Hulkenberg
Daniel Ricciardo
Jean-Eric Vergne
Romain Grosjean
Michael Schumacher
Charles Pic
Kamui Kobayashi
Heikki Kovalainen
Vitaly Petrov
Timo Glock
Jerome D'Ambrosio
Pedro de la Rosa
Narain Karthikeyan
Another one that deserves :lol: :lol: :lol: , i guess this is just a rank of who you hate and who you like x(

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