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Kobayashi or Di Resta
Kobayashi 75%  75%  [ 80 ]
Di Resta 25%  25%  [ 27 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:21 am 
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Who would you choose for the Force India seat? Who is more deserving of a drive in F1 for 2013?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:24 am 
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In terms of results it could go either way but I don't like Di Resta. He just seems so very boring, both on the track and off it.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:43 am 
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No reason why they can't have both.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:46 am 
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Kobayashi , Di Resta doesn't bring any excitement

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:02 am 
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Kobayashi. Great qualifier when he's on it, capable of racing well too. Di Resta hasn't had any stand out races for me, apart from maybe 4th at Singapore this year. Kobayashi stuck it on the front row at Spa and held off a Mclaren for a podium at Suzuka.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:07 am 
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I'll take KK, Di Resta is boring on and off track. Hasn't really had a standout drive these last 2 years to be honest. Outpaced by teammates both times.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:11 am 
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At 1 time I used to vouch for Di Resta but after Hulk flattened him, I've realised he may be humbled once again by a 3rd team mate in 2013.

Kobayashi is talented enough for not being in F1 & Force India should choose him over Alguesuari.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:13 am 
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Season: Kamui Kobayashi 6 - Sergio Perez 14
Perez was ahead of Kobayashi in qualifying and at the start and was then collected by the woeful Senna. Kamui had a combative race and made good early progress but old habits die hard and there was contact with Webber and Schumacher later on. Sayonara Kamui san.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:25 am 
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f1madman wrote:
Kobayashi , Di Resta doesn't bring any excitement



They dont want excitement, they want points. In general Di Resta seems to keep it out of the scenery (except Brazil)
The thing they need to know is could KK bring in more points.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:28 am 
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If I'm not wrong Di Resta does have a contract for next year at FI. In terms of excitement I would vote Koba over him but I think the combo di Resta-Koba can be fruititious. There are still other good drivers wanting a seat too such as Alguersuari and Bianchi.

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Kobayashi is more than talented enough to earn an F1 seat on merit in my view...if he is not on the grid next year it will be an utter travesty.

If Kamui was paired with Paul I am sure he would absolutely flatten the Scot.

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Kobayashi is more than talented enough to earn an F1 seat on merit in my view...if he is not on the grid next year it will be an utter travesty.

If Kamui was paired with Paul I am sure he would absolutely flatten the Scot.


I believe the exact opposite of that


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M.Nader -DODZ- wrote:
H-Holloway wrote:
Kobayashi is more than talented enough to earn an F1 seat on merit in my view...if he is not on the grid next year it will be an utter travesty.

If Kamui was paired with Paul I am sure he would absolutely flatten the Scot.


I believe the exact opposite of that


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As much as I find him as dull as dishwater, the jury is still out on Paul Di Resta as far as i'm concerned.

This years tyre compounds have not suited drivers with a smooth style, drivers with a more aggressive style had a much easier time getting heat into the tyres and up to the ideal operating window. (Look at Jenson's struggles earlier in the season for example.)

Based on what little we know about next years compounds it would seem that during FP1 in Brazil, Jenson had no problem getting the prototype tyres up to temperature and set some fast lap times whereas Lewis who also set fast lap times started to complain of overheating.

Hulkenberg proved he is the better driver of the two this year and critically he was able to switch the tyres on where Di Resta couldn't, after next season with the potential of having tyres that are less detrimental to a smooth driving style we should have a more complete picture of where Di Resta stands.

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I would choose a serving of watered down tofu in a beige coloured tub over Di Resta so Kobayashi is a no brainer.


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I choose Kobayashi. But actually Di Resta has been confirmed, no? There's only one seat left at FI, and it's beside Di resta.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:31 pm 
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Di Resta by a small margin.

But, kind of hard to compare them, they are so different. And one will excel with one type of car, the other with another type of car.

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Just looking on PF1 main page. Lotus are considering Kobayashi instead of Grosjean. I would hate to see Grosjean leave but I rather want Koba to stay.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:55 pm 
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Kamui.

Di Resta is so dull he makes Damon Hill seem interesting. If he gets beaten by his team mate again this year his F1 career will be in tatters.

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UnlikeUday wrote:

Kobayashi is talented enough for not being in F1 & Force India should choose him over Alguesuari.


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Di rests hasn't actually been announced... But they have all but said he is there and announced that he will be representing FI at the motorsports show in January so he is basically in. As for who i find di resta very boring and to be honest after two seasons really don't get the hype people placed on him, the idea of him being number 1 FI driver like he believes he will be (in an interview said he looks forward to spearheading their attack) commercial and entertainment suicide on FI part. So KK for me any day of the week


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Easy, it has to be Kobayashi

As for Di Resta and with myself being a fellow Scotman I would simply say, awa an bile yer heid.


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Surely having them both would be a decent pairing? Both solid, midfield standard drivers driving for a solid, midfield standard team. Changing both drivers can often bring its own problems and it would be interesting to see who came out on top (if any). Whoever lost would be out of F1 for good I would expect.


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Surely having them both would be a decent pairing? Both solid, midfield standard drivers driving for a solid, midfield standard team. Changing both drivers can often bring its own problems and it would be interesting to see who came out on top (if any). Whoever lost would be out of F1 for good I would expect.


Doubt both would perform in the same car. I think their driving styles are too different. Like how Kubica and Heidfeld couldn't really achieve the same level of performance as the other in the same year.

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Di Resta for me.


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Diresta is an average driver and so is Kobayashi...I think Kobayashi has more speed but over a season I think Diresta will get you more points as Kobayashi is more prone to errors. I picked Kobayashi though:)


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I'd pick Koba but I believe they will retain DiResta

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Kobe beef or bangers and mash. I'll take Kobe beef please.

That, and the rabid Japanese F1 fans deserve to have a Japanese driver on grid. I want to see/hear the chants again.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:59 pm 
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I'd have to say Kobayshi, as I think he's shown more race-craft compared to DiResta.


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schumilegend wrote:
Diresta is an average driver and so is Kobayashi...I think Kobayashi has more speed but over a season I think Diresta will get you more points as Kobayashi is more prone to errors. I picked Kobayashi though:)


I could actually note more ocassions on which there were contacts of Diresta with others. There is a tendency of saying Kobayashi is reckless. Actually, besides the incident with button ( incidents which happend to lewis or vettel or massa during their careers, i would say quite a bit more often ) the others were more or less racing incidents, that happen to others .

When he wasn't out there to prove things imediatelly, 2009 with Toyota, and Brazil last week, I'd say he's not as agressive as it should. Of course nobody notices how he let's other cars past just to make the most out of the strategy. In the last years he bagged points for Sauber and helped the team survive. He also helped develop the car, and this year it wasn't that bad.

If he gets the Lotus seat, my guess is he would bag enough points, and also put in pole two three times, as long as the car works.


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Season: Kamui Kobayashi 6 - Sergio Perez 14
Perez was ahead of Kobayashi in qualifying and at the start and was then collected by the woeful Senna. Kamui had a combative race and made good early progress but old habits die hard and there was contact with Webber and Schumacher later on. Sayonara Kamui san.


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I suppose you have looked who wrote that article :lol:. Same guy that still imagines that Kobayashi rammed into Hamilton back in Spa 2011, so guess the bias.

Between Kobayashi and Di Resta, I would definitely go for Kobayashi, I always had the impression that Di Resta was been praised for no reason most of the time by sky sports / bbc coverage. But if I remember correctly Vijay Mallya said that Kobayashi is not that good to deserve a seat at Force India, so I don't see him there.


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paul_gmb wrote:
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Race: Perez
Season: Kamui Kobayashi 6 - Sergio Perez 14
Perez was ahead of Kobayashi in qualifying and at the start and was then collected by the woeful Senna. Kamui had a combative race and made good early progress but old habits die hard and there was contact with Webber and Schumacher later on. Sayonara Kamui san.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ridiculous logic. Perez didn't even finish the race! Kobayashi made some great moves and bagged some points. Yes the Schumacher overtake didn't come off, but he went for a space and didn't harm Schumacher in the process.


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