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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:35 pm 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21660055

Gary Andersons thoughts


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:01 pm 
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Individual race weekends. Last year which car was fastest was changing race to race. One week Mercedes were near the front and the next they were planted in the midfield. One race McLaren were way ahead of Red Bull and two races later they were far behind and then two races after that they were ahead again. Ferrari fluctuated all season.

I don't think that's going to change. Some teams will have great weekends followed by bad weekends. It's about who can get together the most consistent package. Only Red Bull have done that since 2010.


Last year tires have made a big significance in this aspect. For half a season, it was almost a lottery getting the tires to work, which is why these individual race weekends caught everybody by surprise (for instance, Williams in Spain).
This year, albeit tires seem to degrade more, they're at least more predictable, more understandable, a wider use margin. Not so much as a gamble, easier to make a working strategy out of it. Well, at least this is what specialists say.

I would have to say that in 2011 Macca also ran strong. Yes, number 2, but strong, no big fluctuations like last year. This is what I expect from the top teams this year also. Unless the 2013 tires will play a massive prank on us while used under "normal " temperatures (25-30 C), I would expect the front teams to stay in front and the middle teams to stay in the middle.

About the Gary Anderson's conclusions, I would say he's starting to be confused. By his own calculations, Button is right up there, but yet McLaren are in trouble. At the beginning of the tests, all praise was on Sauber, now the praise is gone. Similarly, Mercedes was a dead duck, now it's come alive?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:08 pm 
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Final four days of testing details - http://www.formula1onlive.com/2013/03/2 ... -four.html


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:34 am 
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Top speed of some of the drivers, courtesy TS:

1. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 320,5 km/t (2.3.)
2. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 316,7 km/t (3.3.)

2. Nico Hülkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 316,7 km/t (3.3.)

2. Adrian Sutil Force India Sutil-Mercedes 316,7 km/t (sekä 2. että 3.3.)

5. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 315,8 km/t (3.3.)

6. Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 314,9 km/t (3.3.)

6. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 314,9 km/t (2.3.)

8. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 311,2 km/t (2.3.)

8. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 311,2 km/t (3.3.)

10. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 307,7 km/t (2.3.)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:12 am 
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Covalent wrote:
Top speed of some of the drivers, courtesy TS:

1. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 320,5 km/t (2.3.)
2. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 316,7 km/t (3.3.)

2. Nico Hülkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 316,7 km/t (3.3.)

2. Adrian Sutil Force India Sutil-Mercedes 316,7 km/t (sekä 2. että 3.3.)

5. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 315,8 km/t (3.3.)

6. Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 314,9 km/t (3.3.)

6. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 314,9 km/t (2.3.)

8. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 311,2 km/t (2.3.)

8. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 311,2 km/t (3.3.)

10. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 307,7 km/t (2.3.)

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Quite interesting there.

The F2012's strong point last season was their top speed, and it seems that Ferrari have carried that over to the F138. Whether that's good or not it remains to be seen.

Also, I think it shows that the Red Bull are running quite a lot of downforce, hence why the car looked planted through the long sweeping right-hander of turn 9. But seeing that Red Bull are 9 km/h slower than the Ferrari on the straight, surely that's going to hurt them in tracks like Spa and Monza?

I'm curious if anyone have sector times for the drivers?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:43 am 
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bighobbo10 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
Top speed of some of the drivers, courtesy TS:

1. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 320,5 km/t (2.3.)
2. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 316,7 km/t (3.3.)

2. Nico Hülkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 316,7 km/t (3.3.)

2. Adrian Sutil Force India Sutil-Mercedes 316,7 km/t (sekä 2. että 3.3.)

5. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 315,8 km/t (3.3.)

6. Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 314,9 km/t (3.3.)

6. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 314,9 km/t (2.3.)

8. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 311,2 km/t (2.3.)

8. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 311,2 km/t (3.3.)

10. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 307,7 km/t (2.3.)

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Quite interesting there.

The F2012's strong point last season was their top speed, and it seems that Ferrari have carried that over to the F138. Whether that's good or not it remains to be seen.

Also, I think it shows that the Red Bull are running quite a lot of downforce, hence why the car looked planted through the long sweeping right-hander of turn 9. But seeing that Red Bull are 9 km/h slower than the Ferrari on the straight, surely that's going to hurt them in tracks like Spa and Monza?

I'm curious if anyone have sector times for the drivers?


twas the same last few years for RB and it didn't seem to hurt them. Sebs strategy was start on pole open a gap in first two laps so cant be overtaken in DRS zone. It will prob hurt them this yr if they cant qualify on pole most the time.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:46 am 
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if you took all the corners of all the tracks and added the distance, then did the same with the straights, which would be longest?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:25 pm 
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Rufous Cube wrote:
if you took all the corners of all the tracks and added the distance, then did the same with the straights, which would be longest?

interesting question ?? i dont know if its about the distant in corners that gives RB the advantage or that they gain more in corners than they lose in the straight ... if that makes sense :)


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so looks like NR is testing at a wet Silverstone.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:54 pm 
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A2jdl wrote:
so looks like NR is testing at a wet Silverstone.


Mercedes doing a day of filming at Silverstone...

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A2jdl wrote:
Rufous Cube wrote:
if you took all the corners of all the tracks and added the distance, then did the same with the straights, which would be longest?

interesting question ?? i dont know if its about the distant in corners that gives RB the advantage or that they gain more in corners than they lose in the straight ... if that makes sense :)


if any car is better better in corners than on straights and there is more tarmac with curves than without, Ferrari having a fast car on the straights won't make a winning difference? i guess it would only matter if Ferrari could make up the differential lost but how much difference in top speed can there be between the teams with the engines frozen, surely not enough?

wish someone smart would go figure it out. and by smart, i mean not lazy. like me.


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Final four days of testing details - http://www.formula1onlive.com/2013/03/2 ... -four.html

Very interesting if accurate and would make for a very competitive season, so in terms of out and out speed:-

1. Mercedes/McLaren/Red Bull
4. Lotus/Ferrari +0.2s
6. Williams +0.7s
7. Force India/Sauber +0.5s
9. Torro Rosso/Caterham/Marussia +1.6s

Going by these figures Q1 and Q2 qualifying perhaps will not be that exciting with Torro Rosso, Caterham and Marussia nailed on to be knocked out after Q1, then Williams, Force India and Sauber being knocked out after Q2, however Q3 looks to be incredibly exciting.

Big improvers seem to be Mercedes challenging the top teams from last year, also Caterham and Marussia closing the gap to the midfield.

Big losers seem to be Torro Rosso falling away further from the midfield to the back of the grid, also the midfield trio of Williams, Force India and Sauber perhaps falling further away from the top teams.

However thats just the grid the race could be different, Anderson says the McLaren looked slow on long runs and the Ferrari seemed to be using up its rear tyres, which leaves Red Bull and Lotus, no surprise there, but also Mercedes which is a surprise.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:19 am 
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Will there be another testing day like last year @Mugello?

Edit: Nevermind, found it -http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101674
No mid-season testing this year, more cost cutting


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