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Ev0lutionz
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I think the true pace will be on Mar 17. Its just testing.
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spooky
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is it just testing? im not sure. :-P
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Whats up with Williams today? only 7 laps from Maldonado. Sorry if its already been explained.
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Adaemus
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Even then, as we're always reminded, Australia is an unusual track... So really we have to wait until Malaysia to find out! ;)

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Holy guacamole! How did Di Resta manage that stonking lap?! :D
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first lap back from Gro is a 1:18:934! He is in the zone today!
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Gro puts in another under 1:19

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Adaemus wrote:
Even then, as we're always reminded, Australia is an unusual track... So really we have to wait until Malaysia to find out! ;)


But quite often it rains at least once over the Malaysian Grand Prix weekend so the order is slightly different due to setups, I would say china is where we see which team and car is on top ;)

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Bad news for Mercedes. 2nd testing day in #Jerez is over. They have to replace the brake lines. AMuS live: http://ticker.auto-motor-und-sport.de
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tgruener: Bad news for Mercedes. 2nd testing day in #Jerez is over

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tedkravitz: Hamilton's rear brake failure will take quite a bit of time to investigate and repair, don't expect him to be back out anytime soon

That's if it really was a brake failure, it's probably true but sometimes teams save the driver embarrassment by claiming a technical fault.

So they will also bench the car for a few hours to back up the story? :uhoh:

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Adaemus wrote:
Even then, as we're always reminded, Australia is an unusual track... So really we have to wait until Malaysia to find out! ;)

Frankly you have to wait till Spanish GP to know everything.

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Whats up with Williams today? only 7 laps from Maldonado. Sorry if its already been explained.


Just seen on autosport they had a clutch problem. Just gone back out now.

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Gro goes faster again. :)

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Jon Noble is down at Mercedes, where he reports the team is still trying to work out whether it can run again today or not. Could be a second early close. A decision is expected very soon.
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Robbo-92 wrote:
Adaemus wrote:
Even then, as we're always reminded, Australia is an unusual track... So really we have to wait until Malaysia to find out! ;)


But quite often it rains at least once over the Malaysian Grand Prix weekend so the order is slightly different due to setups, I would say china is where we see which team and car is on top ;)


But very often the teams dont understand the tires by the Chinese Grand Prix as we saw last year, so I would say we have to wait until Bahrain to see who is on top ;)
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We will know at the last race of 2013 :)

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dizlexik wrote:
Adaemus wrote:
Even then, as we're always reminded, Australia is an unusual track... So really we have to wait until Malaysia to find out! ;)

Frankly you have to wait till Spanish GP to know everything.


But then all the teams have big upgrades so we dont know anything so really have to wait until Brazil to know
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Oasis wrote:
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Adaemus wrote:
Even then, as we're always reminded, Australia is an unusual track... So really we have to wait until Malaysia to find out! ;)


But quite often it rains at least once over the Malaysian Grand Prix weekend so the order is slightly different due to setups, I would say china is where we see which team and car is on top ;)


But very often the teams dont understand the tires by the Chinese Grand Prix as we saw last year, so I would say we have to wait until Bahrain to see who is on top ;)


But in Bahrain the ambient and track temperature is one of the highest of the season so the tyres have to work perfect for the winning team, the true running order is only revealed at Spain.

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Oasis wrote:
dizlexik wrote:
Adaemus wrote:
Even then, as we're always reminded, Australia is an unusual track... So really we have to wait until Malaysia to find out! ;)

Frankly you have to wait till Spanish GP to know everything.


But then all the teams have big upgrades so we dont know anything so really have to wait until Brazil to know

You know even after the last grand Prix a team can make a complaint so its not really until the FIA Galla in Monaco we REALLY know
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Robbo-92 wrote:
Adaemus wrote:
Even then, as we're always reminded, Australia is an unusual track... So really we have to wait until Malaysia to find out! ;)


But quite often it rains at least once over the Malaysian Grand Prix weekend so the order is slightly different due to setups, I would say china is where we see which team and car is on top ;)


And Mercedes were on top in China last year ;)
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mercedes out rest of day
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amirb wrote:
Robbo-92 wrote:
Adaemus wrote:
Even then, as we're always reminded, Australia is an unusual track... So really we have to wait until Malaysia to find out! ;)


But quite often it rains at least once over the Malaysian Grand Prix weekend so the order is slightly different due to setups, I would say china is where we see which team and car is on top ;)


And Mercedes were on top in China last year ;)


And we all know what happened to Mercedes after the summer break last year ;)

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Waiting for the 'Hamilton made a mistake going to Mercedes'

It's a big shame for the team, but luckily this is happening during testing and not out on a race weekend

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My goodness Grosjean seems to be fast and consistent, gone into the 1.18's to set the fastest lap so far and is doing longer runs in the 1.19's, I will be very interested to see how Kimi fares with the E21.

So maybe Lotus is the team to look at?

remember when everyone sensed RBR to be quite quick in testing - come the first qualifying they unleashed the beast with a massive 1s gap over the rest of the field?
you never know who's gambling and who's understating...

for sure - lotus was quick last year throughout the season and - with stable rules - they will be quick this year - how quick exactly and, more importantly, compared to others remains to be seen...

also keep in mind that the tires are manufactured for quicker lap-times this year...
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Waiting for the 'Hamilton made a mistake going to Mercedes'

It's a big shame for the team, but luckily this is happening during testing and not out on a race weekend


At least come Austrailia that car should have bulletproof reliability :)

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Oasis wrote:
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Even then, as we're always reminded, Australia is an unusual track... So really we have to wait until Malaysia to find out! ;)

Frankly you have to wait till Spanish GP to know everything.


But then all the teams have big upgrades so we dont know anything so really have to wait until Brazil to know

You know even after the last grand Prix a team can make a complaint so its not really until the FIA Galla in Monaco we REALLY know

So we still don't know what happened in 2012. FIA Gala was in Istanbul!!! :o

My point is that Barcelona is the most demanding track. If you fast there you are fast everywhere, expect Monza maybe.

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I will also add that first races tend to be chaotic. Barcelona is almost always dry and boring.

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Mercedes not testing anymore today

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egnat69
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Robbo-92 wrote:
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Waiting for the 'Hamilton made a mistake going to Mercedes'

It's a big shame for the team, but luckily this is happening during testing and not out on a race weekend


At least come Austrailia that car should have bulletproof reliability :)

i can see merc clearly leading the pack in 2014 ... come monaco, they will probably mount a lot of ballast to their engine to test-drive the new-reg-car in race-conditions :]
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Now Hamilton has time to see how long his new BlackBerry lasts while playing Angry Birds F1.

So, Merc fast but unreliable, and Ferrari again have me worried; other years when they were slow in testing it turned out not to be sandbagging.

McLaren surprising, they drastically changed the suspension yet are fast & balanced right away.
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Robbo-92 wrote:
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Waiting for the 'Hamilton made a mistake going to Mercedes'

It's a big shame for the team, but luckily this is happening during testing and not out on a race weekend


At least come Austrailia that car should have bulletproof reliability :)


:lol:

Good one! :thumbup:

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My point is that Barcelona is the most demanding track. If you fast there you are fast everywhere, expect Monza maybe.


I suppose you mean cars not drivers. Some drivers Like JV, Schumi, Hakkinen have always had a good route map round there.

Actually come to think of it that's not a bad trio.
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My point is that Barcelona is the most demanding track. If you fast there you are fast everywhere, expect Monza maybe.


I suppose you mean cars not drivers. Some drivers Like JV, Schumi, Hakkinen have always had a good route map round there.

Yes cars.

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Robbo-92 wrote:
Danny_Boy99 wrote:
Waiting for the 'Hamilton made a mistake going to Mercedes'

It's a big shame for the team, but luckily this is happening during testing and not out on a race weekend


At least come Austrailia that car should have bulletproof reliability :)


:thumbup:
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what'd redbull trying to hide?
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i've seen the towels on almost every picture taken inside the pits...
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what'd redbull trying to hide?
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i've seen the towels on almost every picture taken inside the pits...


As far as I'm aware is because the exhaust gets extremely hot, they use those so they can push the car without burning themselves, I think that's right.

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could be wet towels to cool things down when the car isn't getting the air over it to remove the heat.

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Gros putting in a 1:18.218 Amazing stuff from Lotus, looking good! :D

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RoGro - 1:18.2 - Wow...

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finally found a close-up of caterhams controversal exhaust(s)... any regulation-pros around? ;)

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