planetf1.com

Im sure some will use it on a lap here and there just to get themselves further up the timesheets and hide real pace.

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Can anyone tell if Sky actually shows Winter Tests? so far I can't find anything on their site.

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Only round up shows and Ted's notebook - details here

thanks, that's what i understood, but decided to ask (just in case).

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Sky Sports News will also have updates every couple of hours as they have Rachel Brooks there.

As long as they dont have that bloody brain dead idiot they had at the Lotus launch I dont mind.

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merc being one of them


yes, yes, yes, yes ... i know ... it's a shakedown and they probably just tested if it works

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autosport are "one step beyond"

http://live.autosport.com/

Jerez's timetable is as follows:

Tuesday: 9am - 5pm
Wednesday: 9am - 5pm
Thursday: 9am - 5pm
Friday: 9am - 5pm

Note: All times shown are local (GMT +1)

The Jerez testing line-up is as follows:

Red Bull Racing

Tuesday: Mark Webber
Wednesday: Mark Webber
Thursday: Sebastian Vettel
Friday: Sebastian Vettel

Scuderia Ferrari

Tuesday: Felipe Massa
Wednesday: Felipe Massa
Thursday: Felipe Massa
Friday: Pedro de la Rosa

McLaren

Tuesday: Jenson Button
Wednesday: Sergio Pérez
Thursday: Jenson Button
Friday: Sergio Pérez

Lotus F1 Team

Tuesday: Romain Grosjean
Wednesday: Romain Grosjean
Thursday: Kimi Räikkönen
Friday: Kimi Räikkönen

Mercedes AMG F1 Team

Tuesday: Nico Rosberg
Wednesday: Lewis Hamilton
Thursday: Nico Rosberg
Friday: Lewis Hamilton

Sauber F1 Team

Tuesday: Nico Hülkenberg
Wednesday: Nico Hülkenberg
Thursday: Esteban Gutiérrez
Friday: Esteban Gutiérrez

Force India F1 Team

Tuesday: Paul di Resta
Wednesday morning: Paul di Resta
Wednesday afternoon: James Rossiter
Thursday morning: James Rossiter
Thursday afternoon: Paul di Resta
Friday: Jules Bianchi

Williams F1 Team (2012 car)

Tuesday: Pastor Maldonado
Wednesday: Pastor Maldonado
Thursday: Valtteri Bottas
Friday: Valtteri Bottas

Scuderia Toro Rosso

Tuesday: Daniel Ricciardo
Wednesday: Daniel Ricciardo
Thursday: Jean-Éric Vergne
Friday: Jean-Éric Vergne

Caterham F1 Team

Tuesday: Giedo van der Garde
Wednesday: Giedo van der Garde
Thursday: Charles Pic
Friday: Charles Pic

Marussia F1 Team

Tuesday: Max Chilton
Wednesday: Max Chilton
Thursday: TBC
Friday: TBC

uh oh maldonado and grosjean are straight in tomorrow, prepare for crashes.

DRS is too obvious. They can shed a few lbs in Ballast and no one can tell

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I fully expect to see Lewis top the time sheets as the car could probably do with some more sponsorship

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Pirelli have confirmed that each car will be given 35 sets of tyres for the first pre-season test of 2013, which gets under way at Jerez in Spain on Tuesday.

In agreement with the teams, the Italian manufacturer will provide each car with one set of soft tyres, six sets of medium tyres, seven sets of hard tyres, three sets of intermediate tyres and three sets of wet tyres. The supersoft tyre will not be provided because of the particular characteristics of the Jerez circuit.

Only one set of soft tyres sounds strange. High degradation in Jerez would not make it relevant? Is that the reason?

Tomorrow is between Rogro and Maldo, expect one of them to be on top.

Well testing has now started, Massa sets the first time 1m35.607s.

Autosport is doing its live commentary again
http://live.autosport.com/

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Not a good start for merc

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so... after all the praise for saubers new car, auto-motor-und-sport.de posted this picture from jerez:



the text below the pic explicitely stated: "Sauber brought their old car to Jerez"

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Adam Cooper tweeted a pic of Hulk in the new Sauber, so that seems odd that the '12 car would be there too.

The sidepods look like they've gone on a starvation diet on the new Sauber in the photo he posted. I'm really curious to see how that's going to perform. It might be the biggest change I've picked up on this year (though I'd consider myself a technical idiot given the knowledge Ive seen on this board). I do wonder about the air flow though and if it won't have overheating issues as a result of smaller intakes from the change.

maybe the old car is just a backup - in case the new car breaks down they could still do some tire-work...

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looks like merc should've done the same

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smoke coming out of the Mercedes according to journos on twitter !

I don't think they can do that . IIRC once the new car is on track that is it.

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Smoke has stopped apparently. All part of testing I guess.

first bunch of pictures is in...
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bilder/fotogalerie-f1-test-jerez-tag-1-neue-autos-erstmals-auf-der-strecke-6586383.html?fotoshow_item=48#fotoshow_item=0

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The smoke has stopped, but so has their car

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Where's the timing sheets?

E: answering myself http://f1tests.info/2013.php?rev=on

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i wonder what RBR are doing all the time... last year they were off to a slow start too... are they molding new parts right at the garage?!

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Great shot of the Mercedes/Rosberg fire causing the red flag..

Just read on autosport that the smoke was from warm bodywork

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who said they managed the cooling problems from last year? ;P

another thing: looks like Gary Anderson got a tip from someone on some RedBull updates already...

sounds like last year...

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Hope this isn't a sign of things to come for McLaren and Mercedes!

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The Macca was supposedly on purpose. A fuel starvation test. Sounds like the same thing Merc done with Nico yesterday.

Not looking good that Merc are seemingly having the same problem they had in testing last year.

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ross brawn stated that the w04 was more of a rolling prototype... did sound like they prepared a lot of different stuff to test with and go for the best solutions afterwards ... at least that would mean that the w04 has a lot of development potential...

rather worried about mclaren though... they have proven that they are still lacking some sort of consistency - thus building an all new car every year ... they went for the L-sidepods from 2 years ago but changed fundamental things like chassis-height and front-suspension ... i'm not an expert but that sounds like masses of data to gather and go through to learn about the new car...

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Well I expect we're looking at 135 points this year then, at least the decrease seems to be levelling out over the years. Maybe Ross needs to stop saying "we'll do better".

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btw: anyone got the times from last year? not that you could read anything into it... still i'm curious...

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Think I saw on autosport quickest last year was Kimi with a 1min 19.67 sec, not sure on anyone else though.

Edit. Here's the complete results from day 1 last year.

Kimi Raikkonen Lotus 1:19.670 75 laps.
Paul Di Resta Force India 1:19.772101.
Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:20.219 56.
Mark Webber Red Bull 1:20.496 54.
Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 1:20.694 57.
Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:20.794 42.
Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 1:21.353 106.
Jenson Button McLaren 1:21.530 62.
Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:22.815 69.
Heikki Kovalainen Caterham, 1:23.178 28.
Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:23.371 25.
Pedro De la Rosa HRT 1:23.676 44.

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thanks! will be interesting to see how times develop this year...

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