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As we know RE the car numbers between two teammates, the person who scored the higherst amount of points has the higher ranking (ie lower number) in the majority of cases.

However, Mercedes has not done this since their reintroduction, because of ''Schumacher's superstitions''. Before their driver lineup was announced for 2013, I remember reading that Rosberg was talking with Brawn so that, should Rosberg come ahead of Schumacher, he would get the higher number for '13. Fair enough.

Now Hamilton has replaced Schumacher, and by the rules, despite the agreement, Hamilton should get the higher number because he scored the higher number of points in '12. But he hasn't. Although It looks like like Brawn has kept his word, I disagree with this. If it had been Schumacher as his teammate, then yes Rosberg should have the higher ranking, but since Hamilton is his teammate now, for 2013, Hamiton should have no 9, not Rosberg.

So?

Maybe Hamilton wanted No10. Maybe Rosberg asked for No9. Maybe the drivers don't really care what number they have on the car unless it's No1.

Hamilton is the new boy, Rosberg has been with the team for three years. It could be as simple as that. It's nothing that warrants getting into a tizz over though.

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More often than not, when a team has both an existing driver and new driver, the existing gets the lower number. Look it up. Unless they're a reigning WDC it usually is the case.

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I thought this to be a very obvious reason indeed.

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Who gives a shit it's just a number.

<sarcasm>OMG!!! He doesn't start work there for another month and already they're disrespecting him!</sarcasm>

Anything to get upset about. It's gonna be a long off season.

wdc standing means much more than just car no.

both of them will have to earn their place on 2013

What an interesting way to highlight inconsistency.

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the conspiracy theories have started already?! Hamilton fans never fail to entertain.

Maybe the mods should change the Jenson/Lewis/Mclaren/Whitmarsh thread to Rosberg/Lewis/Mercedes/Brawn. would save up some thread space around here

Oh my.

It has been like this for quite a while. The newest addition to the team will receive the corresponding even number. Unless two drivers have been added to the team and then the numbers can be decided.

I think a lot of people forget that Alonso had the number 8 in 2010 when Massa had the number 7.

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Just for those seeking for a link, here is a current list:

No. Driver Full team name Chassis/Engine
1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing Red Bull-Renault
2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing Red Bull-Renault
3 Fernando Alonso Scuderia Ferrari Ferrari
4 Felipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari Ferrari
5 Jenson Button Vodafone McLaren Mercedes McLaren-Mercedes
6 Sergio Perez Vodafone McLaren Mercedes McLaren-Mercedes
7 Kimi Raikkonen Lotus F1 Team Lotus-Renault
8 tba Lotus F1 Team Lotus-Renault
9 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP Petronas F1 Team Mercedes
10 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes GP Petronas F1 Team Mercedes
11 tba Sauber F1 Team Sauber-Ferrari
12 tba Sauber F1 Team Sauber-Ferrari
14 tba Sahara Force India F1 Team Force India-Mercedes
15 tba Sahara Force India F1 Team Force India-Mercedes
16 Pastor Maldonado Williams F1 Team Williams-Renault
17 Valtteri Bottas Williams F1 Team Williams-Renault
18 tba Scuderia Toro Rosso Toro Rosso-Ferrari
19 tba Scuderia Toro Rosso Toro Rosso-Ferrari
20 tba Caterham F1 Team Caterham-Renault
21 tba Caterham F1 Team Caterham-Renault
22 tba Marussia F1 Team Marussia-Cosworth
23 tba Marussia F1 Team Marussia-Cosworth

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I seriously, haven't paid much attention to the numbers, other than noticing whoever is wearing the #1, I rarely notice a number.

But I also thought that was the standard method... higher scorer when they were both returning, or both new to a team would get the lower number.... and then a newcomer to a team getting the higher number when a driver joined a returning driver regardless of points the previous season.

I don't reckon #9 or #10 will matter when it comes to setting up the cars or team orders next season. It certainly didn't seem to slow Hamilton any that he had #4 and Button had #3 this year, in fact. Though I was a bit thrown off when watching practice in Austin, thinking that Hamilton must be #3 and Button #4, but that the helmets didn't match. But I guess it had been long enough since the 2011 season that I had forgotten what a toll the DNFs took on Hamilton's scoring and that Button probably had outpointed him.

(Off topic a bit, I do wish the numbers were more visible on the sides of more cars, the McLarens were pretty easily visible, the Williams of course, but with the bulk of the rest, a fan at the track had to rely on helmets and camera mounts to separate most teammates, and that becomes harder with so many using special helmets for certain races.)

should provide a fix no. annotation to each driver permanently.

give it a rest will you.

9 or 10 does it really matter? I think the points hold more value than the car number. Correct me if im wrong.

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Poor Mercedes and Rosberg fans.... It's begun with the whole give Lewis everything (his fans) already. Even down to the number on the car!!

You have my sympathy

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It ain't hating just 'cause it's not love

Yes, it has begun...

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Same thing happened at the start of 2009, when Vettel joined Red Bull. Webber got #14, Vettel #15 despite Vettel scoring more points in 2008.

Typically, teams give the driver who has been part of the team for longer the lower number, unless the new driver was world champion the previous season. It was Schumi who was the oddity in recent times (since he claimed to be superstitious of having an even number). There's nothing to see here.

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KAMUI KOBAYASHI! Podium count: 1 (Suzuka)

PF1 Pick 10! Podiums: 2 (2nd, India 2011; 1st, Japan 2012)

Maybe Whitmarsh and Button are using Button's old ties with Brawn to sabotage Hamilton.

He wanted a yellow T-Bar to match his yellow helmet... simple as that

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Pick 10 Competition 2013: Current Championship Standing = 21st with 597 points
Pick 10 Podiums: USA 2012 - 1st Place with 205 points

When I read this, it raised my eyebrows.
After looking it up, I don't know how it's possible I have missed that there is no #13 car. Not exactly an F1 newbie... Guess I don't care much for the numbers.

Hamilton once said he does not really care about the numbers, only if the "1" is on the car.
If it makes Rosberg happy, he should have the number he likes

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"Everything you can imagine is real." Pablo Picasso

Me too.

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Räikkönen - Vettel - Rosberg - Bottas

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Disclaimer: The above post maybe tongue in cheek.

"I thought I'd get your theories, mock them, then embrace my own. The usual."

Mercedes' plan to sabotage Hamilton's career is already in motion!

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Perrsonally I think it's a scheme by Button and Whitmarsh.

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Räikkönen - Vettel - Rosberg - Bottas

F1 (along with a surprising amount of normal people) has a silly aversion to the number 13.
Only two drivers have taken to the track with '13' on their car: Divina Galica and Moises Solana.
Galica DNQ'd, so Solana is the only driver in F1 to have rqced with 13 on his car.

Clearly.

Poor Nico. haha By 2014, there'll probably be a support group for those that some feel should be in Lewis' shadow.

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What I find more interesting is the team in 1 and 2, I thought they were going to be called Infiniti Red Bull Racing.

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"We can not drive slower, just to make the races more exciting." Alain Prost

I immediately realised it was due to superstition. I just never noticed it before.

Hamilton #10 i like it

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#10

When was the last time someone with double digits on their car won a title?

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#22 Jenson Button 2009
#22 Lewis Hamilton 2008

before that I think its #12 Aryton Senna 1988?

EDIT: #22 not #23

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2009 - Jenson Button #22

I still remember Ferrari #27 and #28.
Nevermind they weren't very competitive back in those days, I was a youngster.

If it isn't #1, then what does it really matter?

If they don't set a time in quali it goes on car number.

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Disclaimer: The above post maybe tongue in cheek.

"I thought I'd get your theories, mock them, then embrace my own. The usual."

Since 1974, when cars began racing with fixed numbers throughout the season, the WDC has never been won by the driver of a car bearing the number 10!!!!

(mind you, it hasn't been won by number 9 either)