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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:13 am 
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Just 10 more days left til Race of Champions where Vettel/Schumacher defend their title!

I just checked on RoC's main site and it only looks like 7 or 8 handful of drivers are participating compared to last year? Is the line-up finalized and will there be some late additions to RoC?

It seems like only Vettel/Schumacher is participating from Formula 1, no Button this year? Glock? etc.


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Just had a look at their site, Jorge Lorenzo's taking part, nice one.

I don't understand the way they've listed the competitors. I know Chandhok and Karthikeyan are taking part but they're split off from the main bunch (along with Ho Pin Tung and another Chinese driver) under the heading 'ROC Asia', as if it were a different event. But isn't it all taking place in Bangkok this year? Makes sense to do it in a hot country, I went to see it at Wembley about 6 years ago and it was the coldest day I can remember.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:53 am 
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They're probably all to tired to take part in this after all the PR days they've done this year!

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Where can I watch it on internet?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:18 am 
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Guess I was right!

Reigning ‘Champion of Champions’ Sébastien Ogier and Formula 1’s Romain Grosjean will compete for Team France at ROC 2012 in Bangkok

http://raceofchampions.com/News/general ... rance.aspx


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:28 am 
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Balibari wrote:
Just had a look at their site, Jorge Lorenzo's taking part, nice one.

I don't understand the way they've listed the competitors. I know Chandhok and Karthikeyan are taking part but they're split off from the main bunch (along with Ho Pin Tung and another Chinese driver) under the heading 'ROC Asia', as if it were a different event. But isn't it all taking place in Bangkok this year? Makes sense to do it in a hot country, I went to see it at Wembley about 6 years ago and it was the coldest day I can remember.


Based on the wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Race_of_Champions ) it appears they are having a mini ROC Asia before the main ROC proper. The winners of ROC Asia will join the main bunch.

Normally they get some US drivers (Pastrana, etc). Bit worrying they haven't confirmed them at this late stage though. Would have thought they would want to announce them to drive up expectations...

:D :D :D


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Yeah looks like a smaller field this year. Location might have something to do with it. I'm looking forward to it though! Only place you get to see these guys in equal machinery in equal conditions.

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Yeah love the ROC every year can't wait to watch it again this year. Hoping for a David win but not sure how likely that is.

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What are general rules for ROC? I know there should be 2 guys from the same country - but are the teams the same each year? I mean do we have to see the same countries each time like kind of a 'league'?

PS. I would love to see Kubica there! Seeing him kicking some a** with one hand would be just great! :)


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The teams are based on who signs up, so no, some different teams each year. Seb and Michael are going into their 6th year as teammates though.

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What are general rules for ROC? I know there should be 2 guys from the same country - but are the teams the same each year? I mean do we have to see the same countries each time like kind of a 'league'?

PS. I would love to see Kubica there! Seeing him kicking some a** with one hand would be just great! :)

They don't have to be from the same country. We've seen Scandanavia several times, also an All-Stars team a few times, last year a Slavic team and one year we had both the UK and Scotland compete as separate teams (I think 2006, a year or two later we had England and Scotland, last year plain old GB).

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There has to be a Vettel vs Karthikeyan showdown, doesn't it? :twisted:


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Adit N. wrote:
Where can I watch it on internet?


They stream it live right on the ROC site, at least they have done for the previous couple of years.


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Where can I watch it on internet?


They stream it live right on the ROC site, at least they have done for the previous couple of years.


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go australia for once we entered a driver who isnt a motorcycle racer which is nice to see though it would be nice if both of them were motorcar racers


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Will RoC be broadcasted in the US? if so, what channel?

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Will RoC be broadcasted in the US? if so, what channel?


Haven't watched it for years, but one year it had live streaming (legit, from the ROC site).

Not HD obviously, but enough to watch it.


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I can remember seeing ROC on tv here in the states years ago, but I dont think it was live.

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go australia for once we entered a driver who isnt a motorcycle racer which is nice to see though it would be nice if both of them were motorcar racers

I wouldn't be surprised to see Whincup do very well at RoC, Doohan however...

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specdecible wrote:
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go australia for once we entered a driver who isnt a motorcycle racer which is nice to see though it would be nice if both of them were motorcar racers

I wouldn't be surprised to see Whincup do very well at RoC, Doohan however...

i agree i seriously dont understand why they dont get mark webber, will power, ryan briscoe, or pretty much anyone in the V8 Supercars to race instead of Doohan


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Why is it called race of champions when DC races in the event?


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There has to be a Vettel vs Karthikeyan showdown, doesn't it? :twisted:


I would literally walk to Bangkok to see that :lol: :lol: :lol:

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MistaVega23 wrote:
seesaw wrote:
There has to be a Vettel vs Karthikeyan showdown, doesn't it? :twisted:


I would literally walk to Bangkok to see that :lol: :lol: :lol:


Already happened, Karthikeyan was in the silver Audi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88nB_6UFDic


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For the individual Race Of Champions on December 16 the drivers are split into groups of four for a round-robin first stage. The top two in each group earn the right to participate in the knockout stages. Now, following today’s draw at Bangkok’s Rajamangala Stadium led by Kanokphand Chulakasem, Governor of the Sports Authority of Thailand, this year’s star drivers have discovered who awaits them.

There will be a mouth-watering battle between the world’s best racers on four wheels and two as 2012 Formula 1 world champion Sebastian Vettel goes up against 2012 MotoGP world champion Jorge Lorenzo and 500cc MotoGP legend Mick Doohan. Other highlights include seven-time F1 world champion Michael Schumacher duelling against 2012 IndyCar Series champion Ryan Hunter-Reay.


Race Of Champions (Sunday December 16)

Group A
Sébastien OGIER, WRC star and reigning ROC ‘Champion of Champions’
Jamie WHINCUP, V8 Supercar Champion 2012, 2011, 2009, 2008
David COULTHARD, 13 Formula 1 grand prix victories
Benito GUERRA, Production World Rally Champion 2012

Group B
Tom KRISTENSEN, eight-time Le Mans 24-Hour race winner
Andy PRIAULX, three-time World Touring Car Champion
ROC Asia 1, top non-Thailand competitor from ROC Asia
ROC Thailand 1, winner of ROC Thailand

Group C
Sebastian VETTEL, Formula 1 World Champion 2012, 2011, 2010
Jorge LORENZO, MotoGP World Champion 2012, 2010
Mick DOOHAN, five-time 500cc MotoGP World Champion
ROC Thailand 2, runner-up from ROC Thailand

Group D
Michael SCHUMACHER, seven-time Formula 1 World Champion
Ryan HUNTER-REAY, IndyCar Series Champion 2012
ROC Asia 2, second-placed non-Thailand competitor from ROC Asia
Romain GROSJEAN, three Formula 1 podiums in 2012


Before Sunday’s Race Of Champions, drivers team up for the ROC Nations Cup on Saturday 15 December. Schumacher and Vettel have taken an incredible five straight titles together for Team Germany – but to reach this year’s semi-finals the favourites will first have to negotiate a group featuring Team Australia, Team Asia and hosts Team Thailand.


ROC Nations Cup (Saturday December 15)

Group A
Team France (Sébastien OGIER & Romain GROSJEAN)
Team Great Britain (David COULTHARD & Andy PRIAULX)
Team Americas (Ryan HUNTER-REAY & Benito GUERRA)
Team All Stars (Tom KRISTENSEN & Jorge LORENZO)

Group B
Team Germany (Michael SCHUMACHER & Sebastian VETTEL)
Team Thailand (The two finalists from ROC Thailand)
Team Australia (Mick DOOHAN & Jamie WHINCUP)
Team Asia (The leading ROC Asia team other than Thailand)


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Grosjean vs. Schumacher 8O


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Vettel vs Whincup will be interesting to me


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MclarenBullet wrote:
MistaVega23 wrote:
seesaw wrote:
There has to be a Vettel vs Karthikeyan showdown, doesn't it? :twisted:


I would literally walk to Bangkok to see that :lol: :lol: :lol:


Already happened, Karthikeyan was in the silver Audi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88nB_6UFDic


Ummm that was Kovi.

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Johnston wrote:
MclarenBullet wrote:
MistaVega23 wrote:
seesaw wrote:
There has to be a Vettel vs Karthikeyan showdown, doesn't it? :twisted:


I would literally walk to Bangkok to see that :lol: :lol: :lol:


Already happened, Karthikeyan was in the silver Audi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88nB_6UFDic


Ummm that was Kovi.


Really? :D


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Looking forward to this as ever. It's a shame Travis Pastrana isn't there this year, but that's probably due to his Nitro Circus European tour that's currently going on.

We could end up with Ho Pin Tung with Team China, or Chandok and Karthikeyan with Team India, which could be fun.


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Travis is the man. I have always been curious how he would do in an F1 car. The guy just has that "IT" quality about him and he can just do things with ease others can't imagine is possible. Just an insanely talented guy and aside from his hilarious sense of humor, the guy is all business and completely focussed when it comes to competition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96xAnbFtQ5Q

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Travis is the man. I have always been curious how he would do in an F1 car. The guy just has that "IT" quality about him and he can just do things with ease others can't imagine is possible. Just an insanely talented guy and aside from his hilarious sense of humor, the guy is all business and completely focussed when it comes to competition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96xAnbFtQ5Q



He really IS the man. No doubting the talent when it comes to rally or motorcycles. He's proven that time and time again over the years.

Definitely no doubting the bravery.

BUT, he has not done well at all in Nationwide. In fact, I don't think he is anywhere near as good on asphalt as he is on dirt, so I don't know how good he'd be in an F1 car.

Could be wrong, of course. :)

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Travis is the man. I have always been curious how he would do in an F1 car. The guy just has that "IT" quality about him and he can just do things with ease others can't imagine is possible. Just an insanely talented guy and aside from his hilarious sense of humor, the guy is all business and completely focussed when it comes to competition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96xAnbFtQ5Q



He really IS the man. No doubting the talent when it comes to rally or motorcycles. He's proven that time and time again over the years.

Definitely no doubting the bravery.

BUT, he has not done well at all in Nationwide. In fact, I don't think he is anywhere near as good on asphalt as he is on dirt, so I don't know how good he'd be in an F1 car.

Could be wrong, of course. :)



If I did understand you correctly I agree. When it comes to bravery and car control Travis is great..but I am not sure this is what makes a good driver. As far as short spectactular events are concerned - Travis rocks...but I do not see him being any good in WRC not to mention F1! He is more like a 'trick master' than solid driver.


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Swarth wrote:
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go australia for once we entered a driver who isnt a motorcycle racer which is nice to see though it would be nice if both of them were motorcar racers

I wouldn't be surprised to see Whincup do very well at RoC, Doohan however...

i agree i seriously dont understand why they dont get mark webber, will power, ryan briscoe, or pretty much anyone in the V8 Supercars to race instead of Doohan


Well for one Webber has just had an op to remove the last of the metal pins from his leg...

:D :D :D


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No team Finland... has to be the first time for sure. Weird because the whole event is a tribute to a deceased finnish driver...

Kimi&Heikki combination would've been awesome.

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Tried to book tickets for this event as its on my doorstep, but their ticket site has got to be the worst I have ever come across. After trying for about 2 hours gave up phoned helpline ~~~ huh, no help at all.

So decided I was not that desperate to go, so they lost out on 4 ticket sales.

If they get a GP will need to tidy up their act, but at least will then be able to get them on official F1 site.

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DeeSee2 wrote:
SnakeSVT2003 wrote:
the incubus wrote:
Travis is the man. I have always been curious how he would do in an F1 car. The guy just has that "IT" quality about him and he can just do things with ease others can't imagine is possible. Just an insanely talented guy and aside from his hilarious sense of humor, the guy is all business and completely focussed when it comes to competition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96xAnbFtQ5Q



He really IS the man. No doubting the talent when it comes to rally or motorcycles. He's proven that time and time again over the years.

Definitely no doubting the bravery.

BUT, he has not done well at all in Nationwide. In fact, I don't think he is anywhere near as good on asphalt as he is on dirt, so I don't know how good he'd be in an F1 car.

Could be wrong, of course. :)



If I did understand you correctly I agree. When it comes to bravery and car control Travis is great..but I am not sure this is what makes a good driver. As far as short spectactular events are concerned - Travis rocks...but I do not see him being any good in WRC not to mention F1! He is more like a 'trick master' than solid driver.


IMO he's an excellent driver on dirt, but racing on asphalt is quite different and is where I feel his big weakness lies. In WRC I agree that he might not be any good. He would be like Latvala when he was younger: fast on dirt, not so fast on Tarmac, crashes a lot. And I doubt he would be as quick as Latvala on dirt.

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Gothalamide wrote:
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go australia for once we entered a driver who isnt a motorcycle racer which is nice to see though it would be nice if both of them were motorcar racers

I wouldn't be surprised to see Whincup do very well at RoC, Doohan however...

i agree i seriously dont understand why they dont get mark webber, will power, ryan briscoe, or pretty much anyone in the V8 Supercars to race instead of Doohan


Well for one Webber has just had an op to remove the last of the metal pins from his leg...

:D :D :D

still cant do any worse than Doohan :p


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Got my ROC manicure all sorted. Go team Deutschland! Plus a little Thailand recognition, and obvi RBR :)

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i will attend the ROC 2012 in bangkok this weekend,Can I use my dslr camera during the show inside the stadium?


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