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Non-F1 related.

Did you know that Juan Manuel Fangio asked Enzo to consider Horacio Pagani for a position within Ferrari, but Ferrari rejected Pagani?

Hence the Zonda was named after Fangio - that's what the F stood for.


They made a special Zonda with the F. Original run was the c12, and there was a c12S before the c12F.

Completely unrelated to that, Gordon Murray used to test drive his Brabhams to see if they were driver friendly.


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Tufty wrote:
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Did you know that Juan Manuel Fangio asked Enzo to consider Horacio Pagani for a position within Ferrari, but Ferrari rejected Pagani?

Hence the Zonda was named after Fangio - that's what the F stood for.


Yes, I posted that in the Heroes thread. ;)

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racer_nobu wrote:
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Non-F1 related.

Did you know that Juan Manuel Fangio asked Enzo to consider Horacio Pagani for a position within Ferrari, but Ferrari rejected Pagani?

Hence the Zonda was named after Fangio - that's what the F stood for.


Yes, I posted that in the Heroes thread. ;)

:blush: I knew I'd read it recently!

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Tufty wrote:
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Non-F1 related.

Did you know that Juan Manuel Fangio asked Enzo to consider Horacio Pagani for a position within Ferrari, but Ferrari rejected Pagani?

Hence the Zonda was named after Fangio - that's what the F stood for.


Yes, I posted that in the Heroes thread. ;)

:blush: I knew I'd read it recently!


LMAO

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Nico Rosberg can Speak Five Languages Fluently and is in the process or learning another, what are those languages no googling the answers.


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Nico Rosberg can Speak Five Languages Fluently and is in the process or learning another, what are those languages no googling the answers.


English, German, Finnish, French and ? lol


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MikeV1987 wrote:
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Nico Rosberg can Speak Five Languages Fluently and is in the process or learning another, what are those languages no googling the answers.


English, German, Finnish, French and ? lol


Austrian?


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I did some work for a tooling company many years ago who made some toolings for Jaguar F1 team, and they told me they had to add a zero to the end of all their prices other wise they weren't to be taken seriously as an F1 parts supplier


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I did some work for a tooling company many years ago who made some toolings for Jaguar F1 team, and they told me they had to add a zero to the end of all their prices other wise they weren't to be taken seriously as an F1 parts supplier

but the parts are not fairy cakes quality and high price ?

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I did some work for a tooling company many years ago who made some toolings for Jaguar F1 team, and they told me they had to add a zero to the end of all their prices other wise they weren't to be taken seriously as an F1 parts supplier

but the parts are not fairy cakes quality and high price ?


Yes pretty much

They had a contract with Jaguar Road Cars too for some parts, and they were more complex tooling, and cost approx 10,000 each, the F1 parts cost the F1 team 100,000


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MikeV1987 wrote:
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Nico Rosberg can Speak Five Languages Fluently and is in the process or learning another, what are those languages no googling the answers.


English, German, Finnish, French and ? lol

Italian

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I did some work for a tooling company many years ago who made some toolings for Jaguar F1 team, and they told me they had to add a zero to the end of all their prices other wise they weren't to be taken seriously as an F1 parts supplier

Will have to tell my boss for the next job we do for lotus :lol:


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Did you know.... That back in the 80's some young bloke, similarly obsessed with F1 as us, who desperately wanted to go to the races, but could neither afford to, nor had any F1 friendly qualifications to get a job with a team, had the brilliant, if, one would have assumed rather futile, idea to write off to all of the teams expressing his fanaticism, and desire to go to the races, and his willingness do do anything useful that he could.

Only one team even replied to him, and that was Lotus (the real Lotus), and it wasn't with a mere "thank you for your interest/offer, but...", oh no, they actually took him on as a tea boy for the team, and took him off to all of the races around the world for an entire season, they didn't pay him, but still, bloody marvelous.

I know it's not a very useful bit of info, but me uncle use to work for Lotus, he was a glues specialist, since he told me about it I've always thought that that was both a wonderful thing that they did, and a shocking indictment of the sport I love, that only 1 team even replied to the lad.

Anyway, something possibly a touch more useful... Did you know.... Colin Chapman, other than being a bit of a genius, was more than handy behind the wheel. He'd rather a successful record through the ranks, but his heart was in designing not driving. Still, even in the 70's he'd often test the F1 cars himself, and he'd usually prove faster than his drivers, and I don't just mean the relatively crap ones, I'm talking about people like Graham Hill too.

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Did you know that the longest track ever use for an F1 race was at Pescara (at a smidge over 16 miles), won in dominant fashion by Stirling Moss in 1957. Most people assume the longest course to be the Nurburgring, Pescara tends to be forgotten, it did only hold one event after all.

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At the 1937 Avus Grand Prix Herman Lang was timed at 390 kph On the straight & Berndt Rosemeyer had the fastest lap at 284 kph.

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beanchimp wrote:
RebellionLola wrote:
beanchimp wrote:
I did some work for a tooling company many years ago who made some toolings for Jaguar F1 team, and they told me they had to add a zero to the end of all their prices other wise they weren't to be taken seriously as an F1 parts supplier

but the parts are not fairy cakes quality and high price ?


Yes pretty much

They had a contract with Jaguar Road Cars too for some parts, and they were more complex tooling, and cost approx 10,000 each, the F1 parts cost the F1 team 100,000


cant believe purchasing departments in F1 teams think like that ? a higher price tool is better than cheaper ones. in a sport obsessed with technology,detailed information and tiny details about everything. how ?

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RebellionLola wrote:
beanchimp wrote:
RebellionLola wrote:
beanchimp wrote:
I did some work for a tooling company many years ago who made some toolings for Jaguar F1 team, and they told me they had to add a zero to the end of all their prices other wise they weren't to be taken seriously as an F1 parts supplier

but the parts are not fairy cakes quality and high price ?


Yes pretty much

They had a contract with Jaguar Road Cars too for some parts, and they were more complex tooling, and cost approx 10,000 each, the F1 parts cost the F1 team 100,000


cant believe purchasing departments in F1 teams think like that ? a higher price tool is better than cheaper ones. in a sport obsessed with technology,detailed information and tiny details about everything. how ?



Money is everything in F1, just look at how much the top teams spend, more so back then with unlimited testing, unlimiting spends etc

Apple charge what they do because that is what people expect and are prepared to pay


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I have heard something about Mika Hakkinen's odd driving style. I think he used his left foot to apply brakes or something like it. Does anyone know about this?

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toilet wrote:
Did you know.... That back in the 80's some young bloke, similarly obsessed with F1 as us, who desperately wanted to go to the races, but could neither afford to, nor had any F1 friendly qualifications to get a job with a team, had the brilliant, if, one would have assumed rather futile, idea to write off to all of the teams expressing his fanaticism, and desire to go to the races, and his willingness do do anything useful that he could.

Only one team even replied to him, and that was Lotus (the real Lotus), and it wasn't with a mere "thank you for your interest/offer, but...", oh no, they actually took him on as a tea boy for the team, and took him off to all of the races around the world for an entire season, they didn't pay him, but still, bloody marvelous.

I know it's not a very useful bit of info, but me uncle use to work for Lotus, he was a glues specialist, since he told me about it I've always thought that that was both a wonderful thing that they did, and a shocking indictment of the sport I love, that only 1 team even replied to the lad.

Anyway, something possibly a touch more useful... Did you know.... Colin Chapman, other than being a bit of a genius, was more than handy behind the wheel. He'd rather a successful record through the ranks, but his heart was in designing not driving. Still, even in the 70's he'd often test the F1 cars himself, and he'd usually prove faster than his drivers, and I don't just mean the relatively crap ones, I'm talking about people like Graham Hill too.


That's a wonderful story. If only I'd had the desperation to do the same instead of focusing on being a driver at that age!

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MikeV1987 wrote:
Tricky0001979 wrote:
Nico Rosberg can Speak Five Languages Fluently and is in the process or learning another, what are those languages no googling the answers.


English, German, Finnish, French and ? lol

Italian

I don't think he speaks Finnish. Maybe English, German, Italian, French and Swedish?

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I don't think he speaks Finnish. Maybe English, German, Italian, French and Swedish?


Apparently, he speaks neither Finnish nor Swedish. He does speak Spanish though, which should be the fifth language. I do wonder what language Keke speaks to him in if that's the case though.


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Did you know that the longest track ever use for an F1 race was at Pescara (at a smidge over 16 miles), won in dominant fashion by Stirling Moss in 1957. Most people assume the longest course to be the Nurburgring, Pescara tends to be forgotten, it did only hold one event after all.

This nugget of F1 history had completely passed me by, thanks for the post. Now to google to do some research about it!

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Did you know that when Bernie was beaten up a few years ago, it was at he behest of some Qatari's that Bernie had swindled out of £2 million quid


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Did you know that when Bernie was beaten up a few years ago, it was at he behest of some Qatari's that Bernie had swindled out of £2 million quid


When was that? I only remember the punch recently, from the guy who stole his watch

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Ayrton Senna and Gerhard Berger were once repremanded for reckless behaviour in a circuit carpark. They were having a competition to see who could pull the ignition key out the furthest in the middle of a power-slide.


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Did you know that when Bernie was beaten up a few years ago, it was at he behest of some Qatari's that Bernie had swindled out of £2 million quid


Wow, what exactly was the swindle? Do you have a source for the story? It's certainly plausible for something like this to happen after business negotiations go wrong in some parts of the world, but I'm just amazed it's the first I've heard of it.

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What was unusual about the 2003 Sauber driver line up?

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What was unusual about the 2003 Sauber driver line up?



All german?

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Johnston wrote:
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What was unusual about the 2003 Sauber driver line up?



All german?


A bit more specific than that


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I think I have it but I cheated. So I'll wait to see if anyone else gets it.

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Both from moenchengladbach? Anyone been there? It's a lovely place. My auntie lives there and I love visiting


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Yes, Nick Heidfeld and Heinz-Harald Frentzen, Sauber's 2003 driver pairing are both from Moenchengladbach, a relatively small city in Germany. I wonder what the statistical probabilities of that happening were?

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Ayrton Senna and Gerhard Berger were once repremanded for reckless behaviour in a circuit carpark. They were having a competition to see who could pull the ignition key out the furthest in the middle of a power-slide.


That sounds like something two racing drivers might do :lol: :lol: :thumbup: :thumbup:


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