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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:20 pm 
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Why dont they bring back this track? Because of that money loving gnome named Bernie?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:23 pm 
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I really don't want it back. I think it's quite a horrible track. Despite the renovations, the track is still dangerous and doesn't have many overtaking opportunities. I don't know why so many people would like Imola back on the calendar.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:26 pm 
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hd23 wrote:
I really don't want it back. I think it's quite a horrible track. Despite the renovations, the track is still dangerous and doesn't have many overtaking opportunities. I don't know why so many people would like Imola back on the calendar.


The old track was good but sadly too dangerous.

The new track still had it's moments, but the changes to the first sector where the two fatal crashes in 1994 were kind of made that part of the lap boring and didn't help overtaking.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:27 pm 
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Eva09 wrote:
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I really don't want it back. I think it's quite a horrible track. Despite the renovations, the track is still dangerous and doesn't have many overtaking opportunities. I don't know why so many people would like Imola back on the calendar.


The old track was good but sadly too dangerous.

The new track still had it's moments, but the changes to the first sector where the two fatal crashes in 1994 were kind of made that part of the lap boring and didn't help overtaking.


I liked the chicane after the fast sector two, really interesting to see a race there, maybe put alongside monza? To save costs?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:41 pm 
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I would not call the track 'bad' but even before Senna's 1994 crash, I thought it looked dangerous. That pre-chicane long, fast lefward curve was hair-raising.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:45 pm 
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It is a boring track where overtaking is nearly impossible. The races in 2005 and 2006 were mainly notable for the fact that a much faster car couldn't get past the leader. It's just a dull procession of a race.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:14 pm 
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"And poor start by Webber"

Who would have thunk it?


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VDV23 wrote:
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"And poor start by Webber"

Who would have thunk it?


:lol:

The Red Bull mechanics must've done something to his Williams on the grid. Is there no limit to the extremes to which they'll go to sabotage his starts?!?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:27 pm 
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Bit of a dull track tbh. Although no more dull than some of the newer crappy tracks (Abu Dhabi, Korea, etc)

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:34 pm 
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It is a boring track where overtaking is nearly impossible. The races in 2005 and 2006 were mainly notable for the fact that a much faster car couldn't get past the leader. It's just a dull procession of a race.

:thumbup:

I never liked Imola either. It was fun to drive on F1 games but the race was always dull and overtaking was minimal.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:49 pm 
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I feel that for many fans the feelings of sorrow are still too raw with Imola. It would be a brave man who argues Imola has a place in today's f1 calendar.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:58 pm 
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Jorvik wrote:
I feel that for many fans the feelings of sorrow are still too raw with Imola. It would be a brave man who argues Imola has a place in today's f1 calendar.


Not really. We raced at Imola for 12 years after '94 and whilst that weekend will always be ingrained into the history of the track, it isn't really topical any more. It is getting on for 2 decades ago now, I doubt most people under the age of 30 would even remember seeing Senna race.

Most of the older circuits have a history of drivers killed.

Canada - Paletti
Spa - Belloff
Hockenheim - Clarke
Monza - Peterson
Melbourne - Track marshall

There have also been various drivers from other forumlas and bikes killed at circuits like Sepang and Suzuka.

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I feel that for many fans the feelings of sorrow are still too raw with Imola. It would be a brave man who argues Imola has a place in today's f1 calendar.

Regardless of its history - I still feel the reason it shouldn't be in F1 is because it's a crap track.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:32 pm 
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Tell F1 drivers past and present it's a crap track, it's an amazing track to drive and race on, shame it's gone.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:04 pm 
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Jomox wrote:
Tell F1 drivers past and present it's a crap track, it's an amazing track to drive and race on, shame it's gone.


Drivers will say the same about Monaco, that's like watching paint dry too.

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They have changed the track. After the second part of the aqua minirali. It is 1 long straight. Past the start Finnish line down to tamborello.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:54 pm 
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It was abit of a dull track to watch to be honest. All though I can imagine it was very fun to drive. It was on F1CE back in the day.

Probably similair to Monaco in that sense. I doubt it will ever come back unless they want to rotate with Monza or something.

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RunningMan wrote:
It was abit of a dull track to watch to be honest. All though I can imagine it was very fun to drive. It was on F1CE back in the day.

Probably similair to Monaco in that sense. I doubt it will ever come back unless they want to rotate with Monza or something.


There was many great races at Imola, lots of overtaking and fierce battles in the race, not many remember it back in the 80's and 90's though.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:14 am 
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They have changed the track. After the second part of the aqua minirali. It is 1 long straight. Past the start Finnish line down to tamborello.

Don't you mean after the second part of Rivazza? I though they took out the Variante Bassa chicane.


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Imola needs remodelations in order to provide an interesting race, maybe more overtaking points.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:13 am 
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The thing that made the track interesting was the thing that eventually caused it to be changed. The blast through Tamburello and Villeneuve and into that hairpin was Imola. The danger and thrill of that complex made the track, once it was neutered so was the place's appeal.

It would make no sense to go back there now, like Estoril the track cannot match latest F1 safety standards. Best to leave it in the past.


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vince14 wrote:
wire2004 wrote:
They have changed the track. After the second part of the aqua minirali. It is 1 long straight. Past the start Finnish line down to tamborello.

Don't you mean after the second part of Rivazza? I though they took out the Variante Bassa chicane.


Thank you for.the.correction. seem to get those corners mixed up.

I was screaming at the tv when Jeremy Clarkson was saying they were going towards tamborello faster than a f1 car.
Yes they were. Because they git rid of the damm last chicane. It's a like 1km straight with 2 flat out kinks in it now from the rivazza.


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Too narrow with no places to overtake. Imola is a beautiful circuit to look at, with its sweeping panoramas and large sand traps, but the track itself is not good for F1 cars. I like watching WSBK there, but not F1.

I hope they leave it off, especially with considering that the true Italian GP is Monza, and in in mind, always will be.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:40 pm 
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Really liked playing this track in f1 ce

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:47 pm 
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chican wrote:
Imola needs remodelations in order to provide an interesting race, maybe more overtaking points.

Isn't it better to tweak the cars (=aero rules) to make overtaking is easier than unleashing Mr. Tilke? I mean, those old tracks worked 10-20 years ago.


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KingOfSpa wrote:
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Imola needs remodelations in order to provide an interesting race, maybe more overtaking points.

Isn't it better to tweak the cars (=aero rules) to make overtaking is easier than unleashing Mr. Tilke? I mean, those old tracks worked 10-20 years ago.
Regardless of any modification to the cars, I'd rather remove its chicanes and see a safe low-downforce Imola.


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KingOfSpa wrote:
chican wrote:
Imola needs remodelations in order to provide an interesting race, maybe more overtaking points.

Isn't it better to tweak the cars (=aero rules) to make overtaking is easier than unleashing Mr. Tilke? I mean, those old tracks worked 10-20 years ago.


:lol:

Unleashing Mr. Tilke.


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