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Most unexpected excitement in an hitherto boring race?

The race was drifting along predictably, then suddenly...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzvwDZjAFRA


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Webber trying to high five a passenger plane in Valencia 2010.

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Spain 2001 was utterly forgettable right up until the last lap.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:04 am 
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Banana Man wrote:
Spain 2001 was utterly forgettable right up until the last lap.


Yeah not bad


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:05 am 
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Also the hysteria of Malaysia 2001.

Ferraris both spin off and rejoin at the back of the field, to find that the back of the field is 10th and 11th for Rubens and Schumi respectively.

Edit: Jenson was behind them in 12th. But basically half the field spun off on lap 3-5.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:52 am 
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Webber & Hamilton side by side for a lap in Korea 2011 maybe?


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Also the hysteria of Malaysia 2001.

Ferraris both spin off and rejoin at the back of the field, to find that the back of the field is 10th and 11th for Rubens and Schumi respectively.

Edit: Jenson was behind them in 12th. But basically half the field spun off on lap 3-5.



that doesn't sound like a boring race.

i dont think much happened in australia 94 except the collision between Hill & Schumi


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:35 am 
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Laura23 wrote:
Webber trying to high five a passenger plane in Valencia 2010.



My first thought when I seen the title too.

The final laps in Monaco '92 come to mind as well.

Spa 98 when Schui went into DC.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:59 am 
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Read the comments :lol:

Especially the one from the Piquet troll!, just goes to show that PF1 is not the only place on the internet where people who think they know everything about F1 demonstrate they don't

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:12 am 
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Webber trying to high five a passenger plane in Valencia 2010.



My first thought when I seen the title too.

The final laps in Monaco '92 come to mind as well.

Spa 98 when Schui went into DC.


A boring race? Really? That was one of the best ever, how can you have a boring race with 2 Jordan's and a Sauber on the podium.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:33 am 
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Banana Man wrote:
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Webber trying to high five a passenger plane in Valencia 2010.



My first thought when I seen the title too.

The final laps in Monaco '92 come to mind as well.

Spa 98 when Schui went into DC.


A boring race? Really? That was one of the best ever, how can you have a boring race with 2 Jordan's and a Sauber on the podium.



Because until Schui hit Dc It was quite boring. A good chunk of the field failed to restart, Schui was something like a minute in front Then Even after that nothing much happened . The Jordans weren't allowed to race. Alesi admitted he wasn't going to fight for 2nd after the race so it was pretty much follow the leader.

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It was a Sunday afternoon, I was hungover and bored off my donkey.

And then:
http://www.wat.tv/video/crash-f1-timo-g ... g801_.html

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:36 am 
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Monza 2009 was a pretty boring race, so hamilton cheered up the tifosi by crashing into the barriers on the last lap giving kimi a podium.


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Only 4 cars missed the restart and they were backmarkers anyway. Just off the top of my head...

The biggest accident in F1 history
Hakkinen and Schumacher collided, Herbert then hit Hakkinen
DC and Wurz collided
JV crashed
Irvine crashed twice
DC and Schumacher crashed
Fisi crashed into Nakano.
Hill nearly hit Trulli
Schumacher following Hill at the end and wondering if he would listen to team orders or try and overtake.

That's more action than a decade of Spannish GPs.

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Read the comments :lol:

Especially the one from the Piquet troll!, just goes to show that PF1 is not the only place on the internet where people who think they know everything about F1 demonstrate they don't


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCiWf7WEViM


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Brazil 2001 another example perhaps.

Okay Montoya did pass MS and then crash out against Verstappen. But little else happened.

Montoya looked set to win easily, then collided, Coulthard looked good for second that became first, but then suddenly rain came that allowed Schumacher to regain from his 2 stop strategy that didn't work, to the race lead, as Coulthard tiptoed round before he could strap on wet tyres. But then Schumacher, like in the dry, lacked pace in the wet for once (seemed to have crippling understeer), and Coulthard was able to catch and pass him pretty easily.

I don't remember it particularly fondly but it must have been very exciting if you were a Coulthard fan. This was back when Coulthard was actually half-decent.

Nick Heidfeld also picked up the first of his 89 podiums in this race.


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Eva09 wrote:
Brazil 2001 another example perhaps.

Okay Montoya did pass MS and then crash out against Verstappen. But little else happened.

Montoya looked set to win easily, then collided, Coulthard looked good for second that became first, but then suddenly rain came that allowed Schumacher to regain from his 2 stop strategy that didn't work, to the race lead, as Coulthard tiptoed round before he could strap on wet tyres. But then Schumacher, like in the dry, lacked pace in the wet for once (seemed to have crippling understeer), and Coulthard was able to catch and pass him pretty easily.

I don't remember it particularly fondly but it must have been very exciting if you were a Coulthard fan. This was back when Coulthard was actually half-decent.

Nick Heidfeld also picked up the first of his 89 podiums in this race.

Nah Brazil 2001 was a decent race.

No offence Eva09 but you seem to think any race Schumacher did badly was non eventful...? I can understand that but ust because he did badly doesn't mean it was a bad race.

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Laura23 wrote:
Eva09 wrote:
Brazil 2001 another example perhaps.

Okay Montoya did pass MS and then crash out against Verstappen. But little else happened.

Montoya looked set to win easily, then collided, Coulthard looked good for second that became first, but then suddenly rain came that allowed Schumacher to regain from his 2 stop strategy that didn't work, to the race lead, as Coulthard tiptoed round before he could strap on wet tyres. But then Schumacher, like in the dry, lacked pace in the wet for once (seemed to have crippling understeer), and Coulthard was able to catch and pass him pretty easily.

I don't remember it particularly fondly but it must have been very exciting if you were a Coulthard fan. This was back when Coulthard was actually half-decent.

Nick Heidfeld also picked up the first of his 89 podiums in this race.

Nah Brazil 2001 was a decent race.

No offence Eva09 but you seem to think any race Schumacher did badly was non eventful...? I can understand that but ust because he did badly doesn't mean it was a bad race.


When did I say it wasn't exciting? Or eventful?

My point was that it wasn't so exciting until it all kicked off. That is what *hitherto* means.


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Most races aren't exciting until it kicks off. Sometimes that's half way round lap 1, sometimes that's half way round lap 52. You can't expect every lap to have some action of every race. That's just motorsport.

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As has been requested I name an example that didn't have Michael Schumacher involved (the simple truth is for a long time in his heyday most of the exciting races did):

Spa 2007 was really quite boring until the late race rain.


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Laura23 wrote:
Most races aren't exciting until it kicks off. Sometimes that's half way round lap 1, sometimes that's half way round lap 52. You can't expect every lap to have some action of every race. That's just motorsport.


Some races like a lot of the modern ones (Indy 2012) are simply constant excitement. Or at least interest.

What I'm talking about is dull races that suddenly turned exciting. It is a legitimate concept.


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I think you mean Spa 2008.

Anyway boring means differing things to different people. What was boring for you may not have been boring for me etc.

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Indy 2012?

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Laura23 wrote:

Anyway boring means differing things to different people. What was boring for you may not have been boring for me etc.


Quite.


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Indy 2012?


As you can probably guess I meant to say Texas 2012.


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Anyway a really dull race before something kicked off was Monaco 2000. Schumacher's suspension broke and then they started dropping like flies down the order.

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Spa '08 was painfully dull (apart from Hamilton's half spin to lose the lead in the early stages) until the rain.

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Pedrosa_4_Ever wrote:
Spa '08 was painfully dull (apart from Hamilton's half spin to lose the lead in the early stages) until the rain.


Yeah, I think it was a little damp in the early stages. But that soon passed and it was quite dull... until it wasn't.


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Read the comments :lol:

Especially the one from the Piquet troll!, just goes to show that PF1 is not the only place on the internet where people who think they know everything about F1 demonstrate they don't

Never really liked Nige so this was f**king hilarious. Love Piquet's quote about it, something like "When I saw him [Mansell] stopped, I nearly came"

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Eva09 wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
Spain 2001 was utterly forgettable right up until the last lap.


Yeah not bad

Oh that was painful to watch
Do I remember wrong or did Häkkinen lap even Schumacher who was second? If Schumi had kept up Häkkinen would have been on podium despite the retire.


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KingOfSpa wrote:
Eva09 wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
Spain 2001 was utterly forgettable right up until the last lap.


Yeah not bad

Oh that was painful to watch
Do I remember wrong or did Häkkinen lap even Schumacher who was second? If Schumi had kept up Häkkinen would have been on podium despite the retire.


He had lapped Montoya in 3rd I think.

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Turkey 2010. They all just followed each other until the Red Bulls collided and the McLarens then couldn't decide if they were allowed to race each other or not


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Hungary 1997? Might be wrong but I only remember being furious the last few laps :-)


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Banana Man wrote:
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Eva09 wrote:
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Spain 2001 was utterly forgettable right up until the last lap.


Yeah not bad

Oh that was painful to watch
Do I remember wrong or did Häkkinen lap even Schumacher who was second? If Schumi had kept up Häkkinen would have been on podium despite the retire.


He had lapped Montoya in 3rd I think.

Last unlapped guy was Kimi in 8th. Mika was classified 9th in the end.

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Laura23 wrote:
Banana Man wrote:
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Eva09 wrote:
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Spain 2001 was utterly forgettable right up until the last lap.


Yeah not bad

Oh that was painful to watch
Do I remember wrong or did Häkkinen lap even Schumacher who was second? If Schumi had kept up Häkkinen would have been on podium despite the retire.


He had lapped Montoya in 3rd I think.

Last unlapped guy was Kimi in 8th. Mika was classified 9th in the end.


Schumacher had lapped everyone up to 8th. Hakkinen was way ahead of him though and lapped everyone except Michael I think.

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Hungary 1997? Might be wrong but I only remember being furious the last few laps :-)

Any race where Schumi got mugged by a humble Arrows is not dull in my book.

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Pedrosa_4_Ever wrote:
mds wrote:
Hungary 1997? Might be wrong but I only remember being furious the last few laps :-)

Any race where Schumi got mugged by a humble Arrows is not dull in my book.


Wasn't the race itself an uneventful procession like usual?
Racing-wise a dull race is a dull race :-)


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San Marino 1999, Mika crash when he had a big lead and DC's troubles with back markers, rest was a borefest.

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Turkey 2010. They all just followed each other until the Red Bulls collided and the McLarens then couldn't decide if they were allowed to race each other or not


Yeah this is the perfect example of what I am talking about.


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mds wrote:
Pedrosa_4_Ever wrote:
mds wrote:
Hungary 1997? Might be wrong but I only remember being furious the last few laps :-)

Any race where Schumi got mugged by a humble Arrows is not dull in my book.


Wasn't the race itself an uneventful procession like usual?
Racing-wise a dull race is a dull race :-)

Maybe, it was exciting for the first 10/15 odd laps and the final 5.

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