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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:45 pm 
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Evans isn't anything to do with the Red Bull junior team though, that's Marko's territory. Da Costa is their next hope. And if he does get to F1 I don't think it will be until 2015 at the earliest, he's good but a bit too young.


That's the big hurdle, though if Red Bull were particularly unsatisfied with Ricciardo and/or JEV, the two might be able to put in an important word.

If he does very well this year in GP2 (I'm talking easing to the title), there's no reason to think he couldn't be in F1 in 2014. Sure, he'll only be 19 at the start of the year, but so was Alguersuari. If he's quick at 19, he's undoubtedly cheap and - if he improves steadily - could be a very important figure in the team's future.

Toro Rosso's next moves will surely be for Da Costa and Abt. Both Red Bull backed and, so far, showing immense talent.

Evans may take a different route, start at the back, try to impress and hope to slowly move up, staying in the sport until you're in the right team when they come good or a front runner is sufficiently impressed to take a chance. Charles Pic seems to be doing this and the Hulk to a lesser extent too.

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Toro Rosso's next moves will surely be for Da Costa and Abt. Both Red Bull backed and, so far, showing immense talent.


da Costa has, without a doubt, shown immense talent. Abt? He got second in a tight GP3 series last year, which is impressive all right, but when he went into FR3.5 he was unable to adapt as well as da Costa (who truly showed his talent), and Vainio, who got the same amount of races as Abt, but in those got 27 points, including a podium finish. I do feel Abt is a good talent, but there could be better alternatives to partner da Costa, who I see as a pretty much obvious move.


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Abt's Red Bull backing is just personal sponsorship from Red Bull Germany, he's not anything to do with the junior team. Evans has personal Red Bull sponsorship now too incidentally, not sure where exactly that's from but he's not in the junior team either. I'd say both are unlikely for STR for that reason, but Abt is even less likely given he has no links at all to either Red Bull team.

Abt obviously is no slouch but I'm not sure how representative I think his 2nd place in GP3 is - he needed some terrible luck for Felix da Costa and Evans in the final round, coupled with Vainio's inability to recognize a yellow flag, to get anywhere near the title. Still, I'm not sure it's fair to pick up on his FR3.5 form - Korjus never had much joy in the second Tech 1 seat either. And unlike Vainio, he didn't completely choke when the pressure was on in GP3 either.

Speaking of Abt, whatever happened to that good news he was hinting at a while ago? Sounded like some sort of reserve role but I don't remember hearing anything since. Maybe a case of the Alguersuari's - although I suppose it could have been around the time that Bianchi was looking like getting the 2nd Force India seat, so maybe they were weighing up possible 3rd drivers. Which could be up for grabs again.


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Russian Time in. ISport out. This after ISport team made their move to Barcelona for GP2 testing.

http://www.gp2series.com/News-Room/News ... P2-Series/


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Thanks for that, well found.

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And here is the current test line-up for day 1 at Barcelona.

http://www.gp2series.com/News-Room/News ... ntry-List/


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2nd test of the season with results.

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2nd test of the season with results.

http://www.gp3series.com/News/2013/03_March/Day-1/

Conor Daly doing well!

With him and Rossi both being 21 they need to be in F1 seats in the next 3 years or their windows will be pretty much closed. Rossi is supposed to be doing more Friday practice sessions this season so he's got a foot in the door, let's hope Daly can get a similar gig soon.

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They will have to do either GP2 or FR3.5 first, I can't see another Bottas-esque GP3-F1 jump from any of the 2012 grid [FdC was a long shot late last year but he didn't make it].

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Tufty wrote:
They will have to do either GP2 or FR3.5 first, I can't see another Bottas-esque GP3-F1 jump from any of the 2012 grid [FdC was a long shot late last year but he didn't make it].

Rossi did FR 3.5 last year, and has run in testing for Caterham this year in GP2.
Daly is doing GP3 for the third time this year which isn't a good sign.

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Sorry, forgot Rossi wasn't in GP3 last year. Daly could yet jump into GP2 and impress a la Calado in 2014.

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Do we know if the races for either series will be on UK TV this year? All the press releases for Sky Sports F1 coverage last year never mentioned if it was a multi-year deal and any TV guides I can see don't go as far as 23rd March for GP2.


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Canamasas confirmed at Caterham.

BackmarkerUK on the Autosport forum has been messing about with the GP2 site. Apparently if you go to the teams and drivers page, select a driver and replace their name with someone not in the series, you get a 404 error. If you type in Robin Frijns' extension, you get a 500 error - meaning the page exists. What isn't known yet is who he'll drive for.

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 Post subject: Re: GP2 & GP3 2013
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Surely it will all be down to results for Evans. If he shows the ability to win races at this level I dont think they will care how old he is - if you are quick people will take notice.
The reality is he needs to win this year to keep his career going. He does not have enough backing for a full season in GP2 let alone F1. He only has enough funding for three quarters of this GP2 season so its not good enough for him to show potential, he actually needs to start winning straight away!


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Personally I'm not sure how much that means. If I was in charge of content for the GP2 website and had a couple of hours to kill, I'd mock up some pages of all the contenders for the remaining seats to save some time later. He could be signed, but I don't think that's a real indicator.


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I can't get it to work for other drivers though, no matter who I try. I do think there's something in this one.

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Quite excited for the start of the GP2 season. Maybe it's just me, but it feels like a pretty inexperienced grid, at least in terms of guys who have won a lot of GP2 races. Only 13 wins combined between the field, and 18 of the 26 drivers have never won a GP2 race. Not that I think that's a bad thing; it promises quite an open season. I kind of think we'll see Ericsson, Calado and, if he can put in more consistent performances, Cecotto Jr. in the title mix. Really intrigued to see how Abt and Evans make the step up from GP3, especially given what I've just said about their team-mates. Nasr and Palmer should be an interesting battle, too.

/waits to be completely wrong :lol:

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Quite excited for the start of the GP2 season. Maybe it's just me, but it feels like a pretty inexperienced grid, at least in terms of guys who have won a lot of GP2 races. Only 13 wins combined between the field, and 18 of the 26 drivers have never won a GP2 race. Not that I think that's a bad thing; it promises quite an open season. I kind of think we'll see Ericsson, Calado and, if he can put in more consistent performances, Cecotto Jr. in the title mix. Really intrigued to see how Abt and Evans make the step up from GP3, especially given what I've just said about their team-mates. Nasr and Palmer should be an interesting battle, too.

/waits to be completely wrong :lol:


OK, it's only practise in the first weekend, but how impressive is it seeing Evans in 4th and ahead of his team mate? Got to at least be good for his confidence even if it winds up not being any reflection of how things actually are.

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Certainly a good start for him. We'll see how it translates to quali. Calado looks good for pole, though. Also had to laugh at Ma Qinghua being 26th and 3.4 off the pace. Amazes me that he got so much F1 running when he seems like a fundamentally slow driver.

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Ma ahead of Abt in quali - who'dve thunk it?

Am so excited about Evans getting P6 in his first GP2 quali. His teammate is certainly on the naughty step tho!

Certainly the grid is a lot more mixed up than I was expecting - some decent drivers a long way from the sharp end.

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.008 separating the first three? I wager we won't get a closer quali this season, be it in GP2 or even F1! Wow. And eight different teams in the top eight positions on the grid is great to see.

Calado so nearly rescued that lap in sector 3. If his first two sectors had been even a little better... Mitch Evans was impressive. He and Sam Bird - P5 despite no GP2 testing - were probably the two most impressive performances. I'd be amazed - amazed! - if Cecotto isn't made to start from the back after that. Just completely uncalled for. What is it with Venezuelans and doing that in quali? First Maldonado and now Cecotto. Daniel Abt in 24th is pretty underwhelming; hopefully that's not a sign of things to come.

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Sergio Canamasas is one to watch too.
He had traffic in his final attempt, but he can be so fast. (and mad)
Reminds me of Maldonado.


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For Daly, being 24th in practice but improved to 17th in qualifying.


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Abt had technical issues apparently.

Cecotto was lucky in my view not to lose his place on the grid for the entire weekend.

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Decent race to start things off. Forgot how chaotic the first few laps are in GP2 races! Really impressed by the patience shown by Leimer. Both in the first and second stints, he sat behind Coletti and waited for the moment to overtake. It didn't come in the first stint (as Coletti pitted) but arrived in the second phase of the race. Especially when you consider there are guys up and down the GP2 grid who'll go for it when holding off for a little would lead to a better opportunity. Take Sam Bird passing the two cars into turn one as a perfect example; he held back and saw the bigger picture. Credit to Coletti, too, who drove very well defensively and did a good job positioning his car. Unfortunately for him, he seems pretty harsh on his tyres and without that, might not have been needing to drive quite so defensively! Good 'comeback' drive by Calado after dropping back a couple of spots at the start. Seemed to manage his tyres well, too.

Solid but unspectacular drive by Nasr. Couple of decent moves early on; seemed a lot more confident under braking than those around him. Shame for Sam Bird that he had the drive-thru, especially as he still finished 7th, and good on Mitch Evans finishing 10th despite suffering with food poisoning. Wouldn't like to be in the MP Motorsport garage after that race, though. Whoops...

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Disappointed by Calado in race 2, a rookie error. Probably his worst mistake in GP2, which is something of a back-handed compliment I admit.

Evans and Daly hugely impressed me, especially Evans sticking it on the podium. Abt I hope will improve when we return to Europe, but otherwise the graduates are doing very well already.

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Yeah, pretty basic error by Calado. Thankfully the accident wasn't any worse than it was, as that could've been reminiscent of Grosjean/Alonso at Spa if he'd gone across either Leal or Bird's cockpits. Coletti had a pretty faultless race. He had a fantastic start, controlled the pace at the front and didn't go through his tyres like he did in the feature race. Nasr's race was almost faultless. Once again, he looked so much more confident under braking into the first corner, but should've left Sam Bird more room into the second phase of it. After that he didn't do anything wrong. Mitch Evans looked fantastic all weekend, and considering how he pulled away from Richelmi after his mistake, probably would've got ahead of him anyway. Good drive from Conor Daly and, particularly, Jolyon Palmer coming through the field.

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damn, missed the race, had to make do with reading the text commentary. What actually happened in the first lap incident?

Only two races in but looks like there's a half dozen guys rising to the top already? Bird really impressed me in the feature, shame he didn't finish in the sprint. Coletti is pretty sharp and Nasr is being very consistent. And no surprises I was delighted to see Mitch in 3rd in the sprint :-)

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Basically coming up to turn 4, Calado was behind Leimer. Leimer was probably 3/4 of the way across to the right of the track, but there was more than a car's width beside him. Calado was following him and slightly to his left, and started to move across as if to go up the inside. But he either misjudged the closing speed, or Leimer hit the brakes a little earlier than he anticipated, as he caught Leimer's right rear. He ended up on the grass on the inside, lost control of the car and veered back onto the track as the guys ahead were mid-corner. Think Grosjean into Alonso at Spa. Caught the front of Leal's car, and the back of Sam Bird's, which took all three out. Fortunately he kind of went between them, rather than a more severe impact.

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Disappointed by Calado in race 2, a rookie error. Probably his worst mistake in GP2, which is something of a back-handed compliment I admit.

Evans and Daly hugely impressed me, especially Evans sticking it on the podium. Abt I hope will improve when we return to Europe, but otherwise the graduates are doing very well already.

Hopefully the pressure of the title run-in helped focus Evans.

And Calado was just being far too opportunistic.

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Just catched the sprint race on First Row website. I am very impressed with Daly. As far as Rosenzweig goes, he has to place some distance from other cars.


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Rewatching the Calado crash, it reminded me that he made a similar late change of direction when overtaking someone in the feature race. Cut back across them at the last moment into turn one to dive up the inside. Seems like he might've been trying to make that same move in the sprint race, but simply misjudged it.

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Just seen a race reply - really was shades of RoGro at Spa - kinda scary and just dumb luck that he didn't get airborne.

Interesting snippet I just stumbled on about Evans - apparently some of the $$$'s he's had to put up for a drive in GP2 were supplied by none other than Eric Boullier, not in his capacity as Lotus chief either.

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Is Mitch Evans the guy being mentored by Mark Webber? Please correct if I am wrong. Agree that Colado's incident looked like a pretty basic misjudgment. Whilst I do not condone Cecotto's actions in quali he did a good job of making up places in both races.

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Is Mitch Evans the guy being mentored by Mark Webber?


He certainly is. Webber has been incredible I'd say - Evans lives and trians with them in England, and it sounds like Webber does everything he can to help him purely for the sake of seeing a young guy advance. Hopefully it also means Webber will have a really successful career in team and/or driver management after his racing career is over. He certainly seems to be able to pick the talent (He picked Evans up a couple of years ago when he was about 16)

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GP3 Series announces Valencia (permenant track) as their stand-alone race this season.

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