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Oh but he was also directly quoted as saying about Vettel: "I didn't say he's not the strongest driver" Ashley tried to describe the situation, but she admitted that his comments made no sense and rather than try to make sense of them, she just ignored the nonsensical part and focused on the praise. That does not take the onus off of Alonso and her statement does not support your point either.

Others speak of language barriers (i.e., maybe Alonso doesn't understand that "strongest" is the final superlative - so what he actually meant was "strong" and there can be two or more "strong" drivers). True, but those "fans" are also "filling in the blanks" so again, Ashleys reasoning fails.

Alonso gave Seb a couple of backhanded compliments - which is not the opposite of badmouthing. Perhaps you can call it badmouthing light, but he knows what he is doing. A contradicting compliment (Hamilton is the strongest, oh - I didn't say Vettel wasn't the strongest) and false praise (he made no mistakes in the wet - except his biggest mistake from the lead and his biggest accident in F1 to date) does not serve as "praise" - sorry.

Furthermore, this is one statement. Alonso's history of negative remarks concerning Seb speaks for itself. If he was trying to turn over a new leaf, he failed.

But he isn't. He's just onto more games. You'll see.



Actually, it comes off as if some are a bit desperate to see Alonso's words of praise as genuine, and that it means a lot to them that he praise their driver of choice. They feel that if Alonso is playing games with Vettel, his statements about Hamilton just might not be genuine.

I can relate, but sadly, it is all just games for Alonso. Just like Monty publicly valuing Vettel over Hamilton. Their Vettel quest might be sincere, but most of the public comments: just games games games.

Have you heard Alonso's latest sincere statement? "Massa is one of the best drivers in the world and I will support him in a title bid if necessary" If nothing else, el Nano keeps us entertained. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105186

To summarise the majority of this thread so far:

-If Alonso praises Hamilton he is covering up for his inferiority of 2007.
-If Alonso doesn't praise Hamilton he is a bitter old man still upset about 2007.
-If somebody with a professed liking for a driver other than Alonso makes a reply backed up with quotes, supported by facts that millions of F1 fans witnessed, they are bitter based solely on the fact their driver is an opponent of Hamilton.

This polarization of fans into colored camps of each driver and team is looking like football. Users that write with nothing but politeness and show nothing but respect to others attract abuse for no other reason than their "colours." It must stop.

You're forgetting the Vettel factor. If Fernando praises a different driver than Vettel then he is playing mind games on Sebastian.

Anyone recall a game called Simon Says? When a statement started with the words 'Simon Says' everybody had to do what was said.

Here's a new game. It's a bit like Simon Says but it requires everyone to go berserk attaking or defending specific drivers.

While I don't think his comments actually made any sense and I never trust anything he says is his personal feeling and not serving an agenda, don't get your panties in a twist about him bad mouthing Seb. He didn't. At all. It might be his intention to have his words construed that way, but he didn't actually say anything negative. He went out of his way to do the opposite. He will always leave it in a way that allows the doubts (and insecurities) in the minds of his listeners to fill in the blanks - that makes it the listener who is projecting the negative sentiments on Sebastian, and you'd have to say Kimi and JB as well given they're left out of the conversation entirely. Its a clever and easily identifiable tool out of the public communication handbook studied by all advertisers, politicians, spokespersons, public speakers.

I'd rather do the Simons says thing, for instance, Symonds says "crash against the wall on lap 14th."

well obviously he isnt going to be his main rival this year since Hamilton is in a Merc that probably wont be challenging for the title

That pic is crying out for a Caption this !

I thought that pic was on the banned list... any mods would like to give input?

I know there's a german magazine which had a similar frontpage starring Michael Schumacher back in 93, as homo erotical as Horner's.

Horner advertises the importance of good wing mirror design.

I can see no thong there (can't even decide if that is a good or a bad thing!)

It's the thong pic that was banned.


I can see no thong there (can't even decide if that is a good or a bad thing!)

Thong picture? post it schumie none of the new members have seen this pic including me.

You've never seen the Flavio thong picture? Mods, can we just this once... Actually nope, not risking it!


It is banned from the site, banned forever, mainly because it was not a photoshop! Google it, then protect your eyes and don't blame me.

Or if he gives the team a Horner and Autos; Stripped calendar each year.

"Er... thanks boss."
"You're welcome world."

Only to the ones that misbehaved!

Thats why the team is winning so much now, the threat of being given a nude Horner picture.

It's horrific. In fact I don't even think it's supposed to be mentioned around here is it?!

Horner's picture... well... I don't know what to say... I wonder if he looks back at it and says "I've made many wise decisions in my time, and this is definately one of them. DAMN."

That flavio picture Since I have seen the picture i think its only fair that the other new members see that picture
Mods can i post the picture?

And give half the forum nightmares for a week? No, thanks!!! Have mercy, some of us work really hard at trying to forget we ever saw that image.

Schumierules, I am with you. In fact, I would not oppose the idea of giving mr Horner's display the same treatment we give mr Briatore's!

Goddamit mate,

I almost chocked on my coffee there.........


That's no joke!

Lets give the new members and lurkers a preview

I prefer your new avatar...

I know she is gorgeous

I have to ask, who is it?

Lets give the new members and lurkers a preview

*flavio pic*

Actually I think everyone has seen that photo, it's not something that's only been around on this forum. So please stop it!