kai_ wrote:
Brawn was Team Principal when they came there. I've made the assumption that he would have had at least some involvement in who was hired to work on stuff relevant to the race team.
The way I have heard it is that it was all done above the team. The guys Honda took on had long links with the company.
M.Nader -DODZ- wrote:
so Johnston when Brawn was TD during the Schumacher days he also was not good enough to be TP even though being a TD includes managing/coordinating a fair number of people and working within a budget to allocate resources and select development paths.
Then he wins a WDC and WCC with Brawn, which he had enough vision to buy from Honda and was fully devoted to building that car when in the team during his previous years, even then he bought the team and basically had no resources at all to develop it and yet won with it both championships. Yet you give him no credit and you contribute that for him spending massive amounts of money developing it during the 2007-2008 Honda years? well most teams spend similar amounts for their championship winning cars and then spend much more during the season to maintain that! and they may not even be championship winning cars!
Then he works with Mercedes and known to have a budget similar to Lotus (not a high as Mclaren/RB or Ferrari) and beats them in the WCC 2 out of 3 times and then you say he hasn't won anything and he is a rubbish TP?
Being a TP is not really that different from TD with the only extra is that you will have to communicate with more non-technicals that TDs have to other than that the rules are the same, managing people and money is in both positions.
If you are saying he has been rubbish at Mercedes, then surely you must say he has been excellent with Brawn by winning in a team with absolutely no funds.
I am sorry but i see no logic in your argument for " he was lucky he won with Brawn in a car that was developed pre-season" and " he takes all the blame for Merc no winning"
How many people do well at one level but then when asked to step up to the next one can't quite make the jump?
Vision or a chance to make a profit? The car was designed and built and Honda agreed to pay some of the bills and what I have read teams don't spend the same sort of money. Three design routes, two wind tunnels in full flight? It's not called the most expensive car ever built for nothing. Soon after buying he was looking to sell.
And yet Lotus have improved whilst Merc went backwards with a man with no F1 experience at the Helm and the Lotus BS as well in the mix. What does that tell you when a man with Boulierrs inexperience can beat someone with Brawns experience on a similar budget and a rookie who kept crashing?
And as for winning with no funds like I said before by the time the rest caught up they had built that buffer . Heres a thing if a TP has no funds and reduced staff. surely there is less to worry about day to day. Not as if he is pushing for the upgrades, getting them to work, asking why they are not working.
As for taking the blame for not winning. After three years who should take the blame for NO improvement?
If the problem is not at Brawn where is it?
And remember in this very forum it was said Whitmarsh should be binned because Maccas failings stop with him. Because of the fuel in Spain, the bad pitstops and the failure to re-sign Hammy. How come in one team the failings of the team end with the TP but not with another team?
Basically if Brawn is so good how come in 2012 the team was worse than 2010?