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Marko is bitter because everyone (F1 bosses included) said Alonso drove better than his meal-ticket Vettel last year.

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We want heroes, but there are few, mainly it's cars - Pedro De La Rosa

He may be unhappy that Seb doesn't get the praise he thinks he deserves, but Seb is not his meal ticket. We've been round that topic before.

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And the year before it was Vettel, and the year before it was Alonso, and the year before it was Vettel, ...

In short: no, I don't think what you're saying is correct.

I think Fernando might be a little dissapointed he didn't join RB when he had the opportunity.
The car has been competitive for for the past 4 seasons & he is probably feeling he could be close to Schuey on titles if he had taken the drive.
Hindsight however is a very accurate science.

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Get your facts right first, then you can distort them as you please. Mark Twain.

In a handful of years, no one will give a damn. Everyone will remember the winner. Everyone will see the #1 and Vettel next to it. No one ever researches for #2. If anyone is bitter....It's Alonso. Was Alonso all smiles at the end of the Brazilian race? No, You can bet your ass Marko couldn't get rid of the smile for a week straight.

2009?

Vettel was impressive but I don't remember the general consensus being that he was driver of the year.

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"I am a believer, but I start each Grand Prix with 195 liters of fuel behind me," he explains. "I don't rely entirely on God, I rely on Prost."

The full AUTOSPORT F1 Team Principals' top ten results for 2009 are:

1. Sebastian Vettel 76
2. Jenson Button 67
3. Lewis Hamilton 65
4. Fernando Alonso 39
5. Rubens Barrichello 35
6= Kimi Raikkonen 30
6= Mark Webber 30
8. Felipe Massa 19
9. Robert Kubica 10
10. Adrian Sutil 8

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Get your facts right first, then you can distort them as you please. Mark Twain.

Well clearly you are wrong as I am part of everyone, and I don't think Alonso drove better. Some of the F1 bosses agree with me as it was not unanimous.

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which ones, bourbon?

I don't recall seeing many F1 bosses claim that "Alonso did not drive better". Except perhaps the Red Bull people.

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Forza Ferrari
WCCs = 16
WDCs = 15

The poll results didn't specify who voted for the drivers, just how many votes each got. Prolly was the STRF and RBR TPs refusing to play ball, lol. But I was just making the point that we can't generalize.

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fair enough, bourbon, as I have frequently called people on blanket statements that don't allow for exceptions. I was just curious who you might be referring to as I had not seen much to support it.

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Forza Ferrari
WCCs = 16
WDCs = 15

Alonso the ultimate tongue master...awesome

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Pulkit Tripathi


Diehard Kimi Raikkonen , Alonso and Lewis Hamilton Fan

Support Mercedes and Force India

The Constructor’s Championship doesn't really mean anything to me

Let's ask Alonso if he prefers the "F1 chiefs think you drove better" title or the WDC...


Can't wait to see how this one is going to go

Consider my words to be eaten.

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"I am a believer, but I start each Grand Prix with 195 liters of fuel behind me," he explains. "I don't rely entirely on God, I rely on Prost."

Obviously he would prefer to win the WDC, he even said this himself. I don't see what your point is?

Maybe the point is, F1 bosses (not everyone like Formula1Fan said) saying that Alonso was the best driver in 2012 makes Marko bitter despite Vettel winning the WDC. So it can be implied that winning F1 bosses' votes is more important than winning the WDC, otherwise why should it be Marko who's feeling bitter, and not Alonso who failed to win the WDC? We know that failing to get something we extremely desire can make us feel bitter, right?

You can want more than one thing though.

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Yeh i agree with this. My opinion is that Marko wants Vettel to be recognised as the best driver. Whilst he got many compliments on getting 3 world championships, it seems the majority of praise from the media and the F1 paddock went to Alonso this season.

So Alonso turned down both Honda/Brawn and Red Bull who between them have won the last 4 WDC's, he can sure pick em

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Simon Cowell hires Mark Knoffler to write a song then Kylie Minogue to sing it. They produce the hit of the year and clean up. The audience turns around and says 'Knoffler is a genius and Kylie did a flawless job but she's still not up there with Sarah Brightman'. Does Simon stay up and night worrying about that?

Actually I find the idea that Marko stays up at night worrying that the world believes his man to be only the 2nd or 3rd fastest driver pretty funny so I almost hope it's true.

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Trying to use 'tongue in cheek' humour in a forum is like wearing a Borat t-shirt in Kazakhstan.

I didn't think I'd have to explain this one...

I'm sure winning the WDC is a little bit more important than "who the bosses think drove better". Alonso may have driven better, but the RB/Vettel package won the WDC, even though the RB didn't have the bulletproof reliability of the Ferrari and had their rear diffuser woes on the first part of the year.

Point was that I am sure Alonso would prefer the WDC than the vote of the bosses. And Vettel/Marko surely must prefer the WDC than the said vote...

By the way I don't think that Marko can do anything to make Vettel more recognised. He's the WDC for the last 3 years and a great ambassador for the sport! What else is there to do? Vettel is as hot a commodity in F1 as Alonso and Hamilton in my opinion. We know he's been linked to Ferrari etc., I doubt there's much more anyone can do for him.

The way I see it now...
Alonso is political always has been dating back to his issues with Hamilton in 2007.
As for Marko he runs his mouth far too often, a straight up cock.
Hamilton FTW WDC 2014 ^_^.

Hmmm...Kimi a long way down that list for a WDC...good thing he went rallying

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‘Ayrton had taken pole and now Alain said to me: “where the f*** did he find that time? How the hell can he be that quick?” In the corner, Senna…he looked up and winked at me. Ayrton had a look in his eye that said, “I’ve done it.”
Jo Ramírez

4 of the 5 above him are champions and Rubens finished runner up a few times, so I wouldn't consider it a poor showing. If anything, I'm surprised he is as far ahead of Massa as that, considering their relative performances in 2009 before the Hungarian Grand Prix.