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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:57 pm 
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If that is Kimi's car, wouldn't the number for 2013 be 3?


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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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That's probably just some PR stuff filmed days ago with the old car on display, where they're just telling stuff like "definitely looking forward to the new season..." etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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603Racer wrote:
If that is Kimi's car, wouldn't the number for 2013 be 3?


The top 2013 car numbers will be as follows:

1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Alonso
4. Massa
5. Button
6. Perez
7. Raikkonen
8. Grosjean

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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:02 pm 
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fairy cakes, well if that's the livery...very disappointed.

Also, where the hell is Honeywell? Did they sign as a sponsor or not?


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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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froze wrote:
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Some early photos on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LBFmodels



I think thats last years with a new (ugly) livery.

Edit Remember last year they dolled up the '11 car with proper exhausts and a step nose for the early shots.

Yup, to me it looks like a Brazil spec E20 with a new livery. Either that or there aren't much visible changes in E21.

i've been looking for some nice interlagos spec picutres - looks like they added a vertical wing-segment over the sidepod fins ... exhausts might have been modified - would make sense as lotus were quite late to the coanda-game ... burn logos on the front wing look nice as far as i can see - hope there are some flames on the main-flap ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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603Racer wrote:
If that is Kimi's car, wouldn't the number for 2013 be 3?

No 3 will be Alonso's number. Kimi's will be 7: http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/entry_lists_decisions/files/2013%20FIA%20Formula%20One%20World%20Championship%20Entry%20List%2030.11.2012.pdf

Remember that apart from the WDC (and his team-mate), numbers are based on WCC positions


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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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Leaked photos are just for fun ! This is the all new E21 = "Just leave US alone, We know what WE doing" *LOL*

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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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The photos from earlier today show a car with different sidepods and a different exhaust tunnel, so probably not an E20 in new clothes.

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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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Gimax wrote:
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Does that say Kimi on the airbox? If so that is pretty cool.

Not too bothered about the stepped nose, IMO Lotus was one of the only teams who did it right last year.

Good looking car :)

Could the white on red Kimi on the airbox and Genii on the sidepod be placeholders pending completion of the new name sponsor deal:

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Starting to have second thoughts about my placeholder theory. According to Honeywell's Brand Guidelines the logo should only be used as red text on white, never white on red: http://www.honeywell.com/sites/docs/DGPSUZWKH0FKN5NJKXM74P5NJV9DSCHL1.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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ashley313 wrote:
The photos from earlier today show a car with different sidepods and a different exhaust tunnel, so probably not an E20 in new clothes.

if by earlier today you mean the twitter pics, I am totally with you...

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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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Dear god I hope that's not the livery. Black gold and red...seriously did they paint that thing in the dark? Bloody idiots.

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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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The photos from earlier today show a car with different sidepods and a different exhaust tunnel, so probably not an E20 in new clothes.

if by earlier today you mean the twitter pics, I am totally with you...



There are very similar looking side pods on Google images from last year. Won't let me link though I just get an error. Remember Lotus ran a couple of different configs too.

As well as that. They turned one car from FEE to EBD and a step nose just for the photos so a few wee tweaks is nothing.

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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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I see enough differences, Scarbs thinks its a whole new car too. I don't argue with scarbs.

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ashley313 wrote:
I see enough differences, Scarbs thinks its a whole new car too. I don't argue with scarbs.



I see enough similarities :P

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live stream has started, its just a skyHD logo for now though

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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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603Racer wrote:
If that is Kimi's car, wouldn't the number for 2013 be 3?



no 7... team came in 4th this year they get 7 and 8


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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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Great PR being first team to launch.. fans are hungry for anything F1 at this point so even non Lotus fans will watch...


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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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Odd the one under the sheet doesn't have the red pods and a different shape T cam.

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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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Still a stepped nose? I bet that changes by season start... I think many of these cars they show us will have big changes, no one wants to show all cards


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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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Great PR being first team to launch.. fans are hungry for anything F1 at this point so even non Lotus fans will watch...


Quite!


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lol real clever there Lotus. Try and launch the car in a marquee in the middle of a car park, in the middle of winter...sure, that'll never fail.

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I sure hope James stays this year...


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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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Even the overalls are all hail the mods hideous. Red black and gold really dont go well together!

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Aaaand it's the same...

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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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So, those pictures from earlier were the actual car... Way to pre-empt your own release Lotus.


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Aaaand it's the same...

but more ugly...

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its seems the car from the earlier pics

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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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Romain so wanted to say he didn't think Merc were a threat.


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I quite like the front wing.

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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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Honeywell will be added most likely as a title sponsor... plus where is the Coke product?


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The Coca-Cola product is burn.

The car isn't pretty all right, but it's not terrible either. I can get used to it.


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burn, its on the side of the front wing

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Honeywell will be added most likely as a title sponsor... plus where is the Coke product?



Burn, it's on the front wing end plates.

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Romain has Total and Goodwill logos in his overalls while Kimi hasn't. Wonder why that is.

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 Post subject: Re: Lotus E21 Launch
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They've taken some of the much-criticised red from the front and rear wing endplates, but then add more red elsewhere!


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I have to assume the air intake will say Honeywell... other than that I think that is what we will get liver wise this year


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