the incubus wrote:
And I would rather have new V6 turbos at this point with Freeze on current V8 engine development.
Makes no sense to me. The engine formula is set in stone either way and just like the V8's, everything related to the max HP and Revs will be frozen equally in the V6's as well as the boost settings. Some will argue that it's how, when and where the boost is applied that will make the difference but that's no different than all the timing and mapping with the current engines. Everyone reaches the same max Revs in different ways and times and the same will apply to the V6 Turbos.
Sure, but it gives everyone a chance to design something better. Those with less drivable engines like Cosworth had last time around, were stuck. Likes of Renault were stuck with lower pure grunt. Likes of Ferrari were stuck with less fuel efficiency and slight power disadvantage over renault and merc respectively.
Same thing can happen again, but it gives them chance to rectify those things with new engines. And they have had long time to develop the same now.
As a fan, I see 90% of my races on TV, noise really makes no difference to me. And even when watching live, I would care less about sound when I have Alonso and Vettel battling it out at the same corner on track. In the end it is all about spectacle. Every sport has to change a bit with time, even if it is for political reasons or for the image of the sport. The high cost, high performance sport like F1 had to change over time. Small engines with big power output with Turbos and Hybrid design is the new trend. It is already making its way in road cars and sports cars. F1 cannot stay where they are indefinitely.
And as far as development is concerned, you can be rest assured that limited development will happen. If not for performance, then for reliability. Same way current engines were allowed to change a bit even with the freeze in place.
I hear what you're trying to say but either way all of those same pitfalls and shortcomings will apply to the engines only the order might be reshuffled a tad and once the engines are approved they will not be changing outside of some minor things that would be changed universally by all the manufacturers which might then change it up a wee bit more.
I also watch my races on TV but the noise does in fact have an impact on me because I have a killer surround sound system and when I'm watching my family knows what I'm watching because they can feel it.
I've been a motor sports fan my entire life and for me there has never been a more beautiful sound than the larger F1 engines and the CART engines from back in the day. All this talk about the FIA wanting to conform in order to have what they perceive to be "greater appeal' to the casual watcher
(let's stop using the word fan) is nothing more than total and utter BS. A casual watcher has absolutely no idea about anything going on in a race and if you ask them what they think is going on about 90% would likely say oh just a bunch of cars going around in circles. The engines don't matter to the casual watcher because they just couldn't be bothered to know anything and most watch for only a short period of time. REAL fans like us who eat, breathe, sleep, poop, and live for the thrill of F1 know what we like because we have the experience to KNOW what's what and what IS more appealing to us as passionate followers of the sport.
Adding to that last bit, smaller turbo engines are old technology in the most basic sense which is likely the maximum level of interest for the casual watcher and IF the FIA's goal is to prove more appealing to the casual watchers, those peoples' level of enthusiasm over such knowledge would be exactly this or less:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcH-3d-BZn4
This is total nonsense, and in the pinnacle of motorsport (I don't want to hear that F1 is no longer that) engines should be a bit ferocious in every way and with the manufacturers like Ferrari, like Mercedes, Like McLaren who build exotic Super Cars of which a great deal of appeal is derived from their monstrously powerful engines and the sounds they emanate, it makes no sense for them to be forced to run smaller engines in order to TRY and grow the fan base. Those who watch the sport and get hooked do so because of the competitiveness and the speed of the cars and the amazing abilities of the drivers. Sure, many things can have a direct affect on that but with all the restrictions in place in today's F1, why punish the fans with things we don't want rather than go with what we love?
Makes no sense to me in any way and it never will and I don't care about the casual watchers as they don't care about the sport in any capacity. Hell, i even know this one guy I used to work with who's life goal was to own a Ferrari because he had to have one and he finally did and the guy has never watched an F1 race. Ironically most of the people in his Ferrari club haven't either.
I will ALWAYS long for the return of V10's and 12's and NOTHING WILL EVER COME CLOSE!!!
NOTHING says hello race track, welcome fans quite like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT36kC2pwAc
(20 second mark - SPLOOGE!!)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVBuTMCpIeEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNbgqBnHrMQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1InrgZiv30http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybXC1Y6tAa8
(from the 1 minute mark on)
They sound like fighter Jets and the sound communicates SPEED.
Catalog is in so back to work, Rant over! LOL